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Ladia
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it seems like many of the detroit schools have changed their names, from schools named after white people,to schools named after black people.they did that to alot of schools,except high schools. custer, is thurgood marshall, guest is erma henderson,i think.is this only in northwest detroit,or is it in the southwest and east side as well?
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Detroitjim
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 9:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aeromechanics is now Benjamin Oliver Davis.
Who dat is?
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Leoqueen
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

General Benjamin Oliver Davis, Jr. (December 18, 1912 Ð July 4, 2002) was an United States Air Force general and commander of the World War II Tuskegee Airmen. Davis was the first African-American general in the United States Air Force. During World War II, Davis was commander of the 332nd Fighter Group, which escorted bombers on air combat missions over Europe. Davis himself flew sixty missions in P-39, Curtiss P-40, P-47 and P-51 Mustang fighters.
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Ray1936
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 10:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.history.army.mil/to pics/afam/davis.htm

THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN GENERAL OFFICER IN THE REGULAR ARMY AND IN THE U.S. ARMED FORCES

Benjamin O. Davis, Sr., was born in Washington, D.C., on July 1, 1877. He entered the military service on July 13, 1898, during the War with Spain as a temporary first lieutenant of the 8th United States Volunteer Infantry. He was mustered out on March 6, 1899, and on June 18, 1899, he enlisted as a private in Troop I, 9th Cavalry, of the Regular Army. He then served as corporal and squadron sergeant major, and on February 2, 1901, he was commissioned a second lieutenant of Cavalry in the Regular Army.
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Dannyv
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 10:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When are those streets named after former slave holders going to be changed?
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Firstandten
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 12:35 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't have a problem with the name changes. The one that needs to be changed is Alonzo Bates Academy. They could change it to PS 123 for all I care. To keep a school name after a convicted felon sends the wrong message.
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Gary
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 7:05 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The former Custer Elementary on Linwood and the Lodge is now Thurgood Marshall Elementary.

Eastern High School was changed to Martin Luther King a long time ago.
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Leoqueen
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 7:46 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I attended Custer Elementary from 1961 to 69; being an inquisitive sort as a child I asked my Dad about Custer, why was my school named for him if all he did was kill people. He told me it was because he was the youngest general during the Civil War, and because he was from Michigan. That satisfied me at the time, and was reinforced in my mind by repeated viewings of THEY DIED WITH THEIR BOOTS ON starring Errol Flynn as a handsome, politically correct Custer. Many years later I had occasion to conduct an artist's workshop at the school, and asked the kids during an informal conversation if they knew anything about the original namesake. This one little girl was drawing a picture and answered me without taking her attention from her art, "I know who he was. He was a white guy who massacred lots and lots of Indians, but he got his in the end".
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Chuckjav
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 8:17 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So long as we're on the subject...

I hereby propose the following name change - involving a northwest Detroit high school - to our friends at the Board of Education:

...from Henry Ford (a rabid anti-Semite), to John Brown (the famous abolitionist).
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Ro_resident
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 8:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rosa Parks Middle School by the airport was changed to Edward (Duke) Ellington Conservatory of Music and Art not too long ago.
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56packman
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thomas Edison's name still graces the elementary school named after him on Grand River, east of Southfield. There is a frieze of him over the western doors of the building.
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Leoqueen
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I pay homage to Mr.Edison once a month!
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Ray1936
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 12:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL, Leoqueen. Y'know, even though my utility here is called Nevada Power, I still refer to the monthly greeting as my Edison bill. Old habits die hard.

OOps, I threadjacked. Back to school names, gang.
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Gistok
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 1:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

When are those streets named after former slave holders going to be changed?



As soon as they change the name of Lynch Ave. near City Airport...
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Ladia
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 2:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i'm surprised they changed the name of rosa parks middle school,even though they changed it to anothr black person's name duke ellington. was rosa park middle always called that prior.
the only thing is they are not changing the name of high schools,only the lower grades.i guess when detroit was mostly white,those were people they felt pride for,usually former slavr owners,or racists and when white people left the city those names were kind of strange for mostly black students going there.as a kid i was curious about the person who my school was named after,like who is frank cody(cody high),lol
i think it would be the same for jews going to schools name after germans,or palestinians going to schools named after israelites,and visa versa.
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Whithorn11446
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 3:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"i'm surprised they changed the name of rosa parks middle school,even though they changed it to anothr black person's name duke ellington. was rosa park middle always called that prior."

No, because until the early 1980's it was a mostly Catholic neighborhood with mainly Italians, Germans, and Poles.

It was St. David High School(Catholic) previously and opened in 1958.
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Danny
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 5:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

George Custer Elementary School on Linwood St. and John C. Lodge FWY. has been change to Thurgood Marshall Elementary because Gen. George Custer is a racist.

When black folks took over Detroit after 1975 most famous "White" names on all DPS building has been changed to famous black names like:

Mae C. Jemison Academy

Coleman A. Young Elementary School

Malcolm X Academy

Martin Luther King High School

Mary Bethune Academy

and much more.



(Message edited by danny on August 21, 2008)
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Ray1936
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 6:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Danny, there is no indication that George Custer had anything against African Americans.

He sure had no use for Indians, though..... :-)
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Leoqueen
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 8:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Custer had several black soldiers with him at Little Big Horn. They died along with him, and some members of his family. In all the books I have read on Custer, none of them recount any anecdotes about how he felt about his black recruits. Alas, though, Ray is right...he had no use for Native Americans.
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Smogboy
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 9:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Geez, I wonder what people will say about Henry Ford High School then considering he was buddy buddies with Hitler for awhile there.
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Whithorn11446
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 9:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Geez, I wonder what people will say about Henry Ford High School then considering he was buddy buddies with Hitler for awhile there."

Well, for a number of years(late 50's-early 70's) Henry Ford High School had a Jewish population. The 7 Mile-Evergreen area was a somewhat popular area for the Jewish population. Considering Hitler wasn't as distant of memory back then, I guess the area managed to live with keeping the school name as "Henry Ford High School".
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Chuckjav
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right-On....from Northern, to Central, onward to Mumford and ultimately Henry Ford; Detroit's Jewish population was on the move during much of the 20th century.
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Mortalman
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 10:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can't say, "Detroit's Jewish population was on the move during much of the 20th century." because I'm sure there is some Anti-Semitic implication in that statement. I'm going to think about it and I'll come with that implication!
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 10:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"The one that needs to be changed is Alonzo Bates Acadamy"
I"ll second that! It's like having a school named after one of the Bush Family!
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Grumpyoldlady
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Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 2:36 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know the junior high school I attended in 1965, then called "Arthur" has a different name, but I don't know what.
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Chuckjav
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Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 7:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(Pardon my incessant thread jacking)

Mortalman....No anti-Semitism here; I'm not one of those so-called "self-hating" Jews. The intra-city Detroit (self-imposed) Diaspora is no different than what has been observed in several communities throughout the USA.

Actually...it was no different than other forms of typical intra-city white-flight.
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Mortalman
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Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 10:46 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Point is well taken, Chuckjav.!
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Gistok
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Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 12:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed.... Temple Beth-El moved from lower Woodward (Bonstelle Theatre today), to upper Woodward... to Oakland County.

The outmigration Diaspora of the Jews mirrors (in a different direction) the movement of Detroit's Italian, German, Belgian and other populations.

The Polish outmigration was slowed due to the enclave of Hamtramck, but even today much of Hamtramck is non-Polish, and the Polish Century Club, one of the main Polish social clubs is located in Troy today, nearer the majority of people of Polish descent.

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