Tkelly1986 Member Username: Tkelly1986
Post Number: 459 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 5:32 pm: | |
Thinking purely hypothetical here, but would Ford even build a presence downtown? Though they have been in Dearborn for years, some of their HQ buildings are aging and may need replacement over the next decade or so. Would they ever move their “HQ” downtown even if it is more show than a large number of jobs? What if they moved 1,500 of their top jobs into a new building with their logo on top and dub that their “World HQ”? If nothing else, why not make this move as a goodwill effort, by showing their support for the renaissance of Detroit. When explaining that GM is actually the only automaker with its HQ in Detroit, while Ford and Chrysler are out in the burbs, you sometimes get a wisecrack or questions why. |
Detmsp Member Username: Detmsp
Post Number: 25 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 5:35 pm: | |
Ford's HQ might be old, but from what I hear it has been kept up extremely well, so it probably won't need replacing anytime soon |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 5246 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 5:38 pm: | |
All of Ford's R&D is out in Dearborn a stone's throw from the HQ and the Rouge is there, too. There's no way they'd move downtown. |
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision
Post Number: 1323 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 5:51 pm: | |
Nope. They're Dearborn's. Downtown is all about GM. There are a lot of practical reasons to not have you headquarters across from your competition in this business.. not to mention they've invested heavily in their campus and in fact have demanded that their suppliers take up empty spaces in their campus buildings. They're responsible with that decision for an ad agency or two LEAVING downtown... they had a satellite office for something in the Rencen for awhile, until GM bought it. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 1918 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 6:46 pm: | |
Ford built the Ren Cen and had an entire tower. It also had a precursor to GM World, called world of Ford! I don't think any auto company is in the position of building new buildings. Remember, Visteon was involved with the new building on Campus Martius, but scaled back quite a bit by the time is was opened. They are not even using half the space at their new campus in Belleville. If Ford was looking for a new space, Belleville would be a no brainer because Visteon and Ford are still joined at the hip. |
Gnome Member Username: Gnome
Post Number: 1924 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 9:12 pm: | |
Gistok has better details, but IIRC Ford did try to move into the Coleman young Building in 1999. Here was the deal. GM wanted out of their place on West Grand Blvd. Ford wanted out of the Ren Cen. The deal brokered by Archer was for GM to sell their HQ to the City. The City would move City Hall up to GM HQ. GM would buy the Ren Cen from Ford and Ford would move into the CAY building. The fly in this scheme was Council. The feeling was that "outside" interests were trying to take over the waterfront, and that "the City" was giving up one of its gems. Like I said, Gistock has a better memory about this page in our history, but in answer to your question: Ford was downtown, wanted to stay downtown, but The City didn't want to play along. |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 5248 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 9:25 pm: | |
but that was at most Ford Realty or Ford Credit downtown, nothing HQish - they haven't had a major administrative presence in the city since being in the Piquette plant They do have a major civic presence, though, with the stadium and family participation in various projects like Campus Martius/Detroit 300, Detroit Renaissance, and the Riverfront Conservancy, and there's always that big @ss top tier hospital you can point toward. |
Gnome Member Username: Gnome
Post Number: 1926 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 10:01 pm: | |
Yes, and marketing for - at the time - their growing world brands of Volvo, Astin-Martin, Range Rover, Jaguar, Lincoln Mercury and Ford. Their ad agency,J. Walter Thompson, in anticipation moved from the Ren Cen into the Comerica Building next door to CAY. Ford Marketing ended up moving out to Regent Court in Dearborn. They've since moved. |
Greatlakes Member Username: Greatlakes
Post Number: 258 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 10:17 pm: | |
This NY Times article from Sept 1996 detailing the planned move was posted on here before for reference.
quote:Urban planners are enthusiastic about the scheme. They point out that if City Hall had stayed put when G.M. moved downtown, Detroit's commercial and political life would have become concentrated in a few blocks of the downtown area while midtown Detroit, 25 blocks to the north, might have withered. ''From an urban planning point of view, it's a very good idea to create poles that attract people,'' said Prof. Emmanuel-George Vakalo, the chairman of the doctoral program in architecture at the University of Michigan. City offices are best located on the periphery of a downtown area to encourage urban renewal, he added. [...] Part of Mayor Archer's plan is to make prime office space downtown available to Renaissance Center tenants because of worries they might go to the suburbs when displaced by G.M. Ford Motor is the Renaissance Center's biggest tenant, with 3,000 managers occupying what is the company's second-most-important office building, after the headquarters in Dearborn, a Detroit suburb. In an interview at the Detroit Symphony Orchestra's opening night on Thursday, Mayor Archer pointed out that Ford, unlike G.M. and Chrysler, had not built an assembly plant in the inner city. Ford Motor's name, he suggested, would fit very well on top of the current City Hall. ''It is very vital and important that, since they do not have an automobile plant, they maintain a presence here,'' he said. Ford officials point out that their lease at the Renaissance Center, which Henry Ford 2d built, runs through 2005. G.M. has promised not to expel tenants until their leases expire. But if Ford eventually moves its Renaissance Center staff into the current City Hall, the nation's two largest companies would end up across the street from each other. My how times have changed:
quote:America's largest corporations in 2008: (Rank - Name - Industry - Profits in $ millions) 1. Wal-Mart, Retail: 12,731 2. Exxon Mobil, Oil: 40,610 3. Chevron, Oil: 18,688 4. General Motors, Auto: -38,732 5. ConocoPhillips, Oil: 11,891 (Message edited by GreatLakes on September 25, 2008) |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 5250 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 10:20 pm: | |
Earlier this year I had the opportunity to go through the Glass House and at that time they were preparing to consolidate officespace by moving in some departments that until then had been in rented space. They had really trimmed their staff and were at something like 60% capacity so they had ample room for others. |
Tkelly1986 Member Username: Tkelly1986
Post Number: 460 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 - 5:30 pm: | |
The 3,000 workers that were in the Ren Cen, did they all move out to Dearborn? Better yet, what happened to the workers taht would have moved to City Hall? (Message edited by tkelly1986 on September 26, 2008) |
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 2068 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 - 7:35 pm: | |
quote:They're responsible with that decision for an ad agency or two LEAVING downtown... Yup. Ford pretty much forced the WPP agencies' hands when the Comerica Tower lease came up. I worked for JWT for a stint when they were in Comerica Tower. Right at the end of my time there, they were already scouting locations in Dearborn. Guess that 10 minute drive to/from the Glass House got to be too much. |
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