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Gravitymachine
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 10:18 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.freep.com/article/2 0081029/NEWS01/81029025


perhaps they should start by replacing or recommisioning Vito Valdez's fish sculpture that literally disappeared from Vernor and 21st when the project began

(Message edited by gravitymachine on October 29, 2008)
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Detroiterbychoice
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A giant burrito. Possibly a taco.
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Barnesfoto
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 10:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a network of steel beams that soar majestically and spell out "Fuck Maroun!"
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Publicmsu
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Something like this:

http://media3.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/1 2/14/PH2007121401739.jpg
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Gravitymachine
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 10:55 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wait, did i accidentally post this in the freep forums?
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Rocknrollscientist
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 11:02 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you checked out the comments on the Freep page for that article? It's all about immigration and Canada! Nothing to do with the actual article itself.
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Long_in_the_tooth
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 12:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a nice wading pool.


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Detx
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 12:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A torta from heaven...

No, seriously, something from the Aztec calendar would look really cool.
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Vivadetroit
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry Gravity.. great minds think alike. I just saw this thread & see the resemblance in our posts.

I remember when the fish was put there & how everyone was afraid some scrapper would steal it or someone would graffiti it up. It sure made that corner look better than it does now. Maroun's company bought up that vacant land, that old gas/mechanic station as well as the old police station, so it makes perfect sense that they'd get rid of the fish.
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Gravitymachine
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 12:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i saw your post on the freep, no worries, it was cool to see someone with the same concerns voicing them on there. my last comment above was aimed at all the shitty comments here that resemble oh so many posts from the mouth breathers that seem to make up the bulk of the usership on the freep forums.

(Message edited by gravitymachine on October 29, 2008)
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Detroiterbychoice
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 1:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gravitymachine: What do you have against taco's? What did the taco ever do to you. It is just there to provide you tasteful nourishment when you are drunk and/or stoned. All it wants is to provide your tastebuds tingling pleasure, and you have to go name calling people who back tacos.

The taco predates the arrival of Europeans in Mexico. There is anthropological evidence that the indigenous people living in the lake region of the Valley of Mexico traditionally ate tacos filled with small fish. Writing at the time of the Spanish conquistadors, Bernal Díaz del Castillo documented the first taco feast enjoyed by Europeans which Hernán Cortés arranged for his captains in Coyoacán.

I dont know what is more mexican than that. ( Ok.....well maybe gardening,sleeping on the job, donkey shows, thin moustaches....... )
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Aoife
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 1:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like Barnesfoto's idea. Simple, yet elegant.
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Gravitymachine
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 1:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah, barnfesto's is pretty good
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Vivadetroit
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 1:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I third Barnes' idea!

the Freep posters are a million times worse. And the moderators are turds. I had a bigger post w/ the fish part inside of it, but the Freep people blocked it. I wrote that a lot of the Freep forumers have no clue about SW Detroit, and the word ASSUME is what got my post blocked. Come on!

I have been very concerned about that area by the Welcome Center for a while since I've wanted to buy in SW, but don't want to buy in an area (like Ste. Anne's area) where someone might put in a second span or ramps. Hard to tell what Maroun owns and what he doesn't. And as one can see, there is something odd w/ the construction over there. But that's a thread for another day! LOL
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Denbytar64
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 1:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just graffiti it up...would fit in with all the other graffiti in the hood
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Alley
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 2:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It would be cool if various artists crafted an interpretation of Xochipilli and Macuilxóchitl at the foot of each end of the bridge--Xochipilli at the entrance into Mexicantown, and Macuilxóchitl at the exit (as he is the god of games, gambling, and festivals I thought that would work well with the city's casinos and many festivals)






from http://www.mexicolore.co.uk

"Xochipilli was essentially 'one of the good guys' in the 'pantheon' of Aztec gods - youthful, fun-loving, associated with summer, flowers and plants, good health, pleasure, wellbeing, the arts, music, dance and general playfulness. He was the patron god of the daysign Monkey, and the monkey was Xochipilli's 'nahual' or companion spirit. His brother was Macuilxóchitl ('Five-Flower'), god of games, gambling and festivals."

(Message edited by alley on October 29, 2008)
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Long_in_the_tooth
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 2:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just get it done before 2012
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Englishkills
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 4:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did a bit of research into this pedestrian bridge. Saw the video and some other stuff. Aren't there already a lot of pedestrian bridges over expressways in Detroit? Isn't there a traffic bridge a block or so from here? It appears so in the renderings at least. If there is another bridge a block away does it not have a pedestrian sidewalk for crossing?

Is this bridge being constructed as a purely aesthetic sort of landmark for the area or is it needed to link the surrounding neighborhoods?
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Melocoton
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 5:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The expressway cut Bagley in half, so one side of the Mexicantown commercial strip (and the residential areas around it) is cut off from the other.

Vernor highway is a long block away, but it's not convenient for walking through the neighborhood. Especially not with the construction and the heavy traffic over the highway.
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Rrl
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 5:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gravity,
Is this the fish you speak of?

fish


I like it.

[Pic borrowed from ModelD media]

(Message edited by rrl on October 29, 2008)
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Broken_main
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 5:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Englishkills,

This is the bridge that has been promised to the community to reconnect what was disconnected. It supposedly being built to re-create the two neighborhoods that were once one before the freeway was originally built
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Gravitymachine
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 5:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it is meant to link the semi-touristy retail/restaurant strips along bagley on both sides of the expressway, while the vernor overpass is just a block north, my theory is that the ped bridge was kind of a gimme to the stong community groups of mexicantown for disrupting everything nearby for two years while they rebuild the entire freeway infastructure in the area. i'm curious what effect the bridge will have on east mexicantown, which is pretty quiet compared to the west side of the freeway which most people don't seem to realize even exists, including some of the criminal element evident on the west side of the freeway.

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