Michigansheik Member Username: Michigansheik
Post Number: 321 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 11:20 pm: | |
survey posted on new sign designs, FYI. http://www.detroitmi.gov/Depar tments/DetroitDepartmentofTran sportation/tabid/80/Default.as px |
Russix Member Username: Russix
Post Number: 151 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 3:18 pm: | |
I thought they just changed their signs about 2 years ago? They went from the highly visible bright neon yellow and green to something that I have to double check to make sure I'm at a bus stop, not loitering next to a No Parking sign. |
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 1690 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 3:31 pm: | |
No, you have to check this out. The new signs actually contain some information. |
W_chicago Member Username: W_chicago
Post Number: 58 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 3:47 pm: | |
I was driving along Woodward today, and saw the new signs posted up at stops. They looked really good, even tho they look sorta temporary. I love watching our bus system improve!! =) Next up: bike racks on all DDOT routes & in the near future: light-rail on Woodward How exciting. |
Doctors Member Username: Doctors
Post Number: 765 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 4:52 pm: | |
If only their mapmaking skills were up to par. SMART can do it. Why not DDOT? |
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 1692 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 5:14 pm: | |
They have a fine map, though a bit out of date, but it's not on line. The Detroit Transit History web site has a wonderful on line DDOT map, completely up to date. |
Dtowncitylover Member Username: Dtowncitylover
Post Number: 383 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 5:19 pm: | |
I'm surprised and disappointed SMART hasn't initiated something like this, it would be nice. |
Bob Member Username: Bob
Post Number: 1868 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 4:20 pm: | |
It all comes down to money. SMART is choosing to spend their meager funding on service. Although the signs would be nice. |
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 1694 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 5:14 pm: | |
The basic problem with transit service in this area is just that, money. Metro Detroit spends about 1/3 as much per capita on transit as the average of regions with 4 to 5 million population in the US. ($75 compared to $240.) If we actually want transit, we'll have to pony up for it. Who's in? |
Living_in_the_d Member Username: Living_in_the_d
Post Number: 317 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 7:34 pm: | |
Yeah, How About Hybrid Buses Next? |
Bvos Member Username: Bvos
Post Number: 2315 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 10:58 pm: | |
These are great improvements for DDOT, especially the supplementary signs at the stations. These signs are the base information at at most transit stops in America and are a "given" in cities with good mass transit systems. It's incremental steps like these and bike racks combined with the express routes that are slowly, but with encouraging progress, moving DDOT in a very positive direction instead of the multi-decade death spiral it appeared to be in just a few years ago. I took the survey, but I do have to say that the survey design was horrible. They're asking questions on things like "is the sign big enough" and "is the sign readable", yet they don't say how big the sign is or how high off the ground it will be. How can you judge the effectiveness of the sign if it doesn't show it in it's setting? The phrasing of the questions was poor as well. Even with these complaints, this survey is also a great improvement for DDOT. |
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox
Post Number: 1025 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 2:18 am: | |
quote:I took the survey, but I do have to say that the survey design was horrible. They're asking questions on things like "is the sign big enough" and "is the sign readable", yet they don't say how big the sign is or how high off the ground it will be. How can you judge the effectiveness of the sign if it doesn't show it in it's setting? The survey was designed to be given out to people at the stops where the new signs are installed. If you frequently use one of those stops (Woodward and Warren or Woodward and Seven Mile) during rush hour, chances are you've been offered the opportunity to fill out a paper survey on the spot while looking at the sign. That is also why they ask for the sign number, which you have no way of knowing if you just stumbled on the survey online. |