  Tkshreve Member Username: Tkshreve Post Number: 670 Registered: 07-2006 |
now they want to take away my salt lick | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 9648 Registered: 10-2003 |
First, you wanted the Government to supply you with roads, and now, you want them maintained!? That's the problem with Libruls, no sense of personal responsibility.  | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 9649 Registered: 10-2003 |
I'd tell you to just take a bus, but that's just another Government entitlement too! | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 2837 Registered: 11-2007 |
Get out here and salt the road yourself, and show that good ol' American can-do spirit.  | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 6866 Registered: 12-2005 |
Detnews' Road salt mix: A quicker fix in Macomb County article mentions "Epoke Sirius Combi Spreaders" which are reported to use 30% less salt. I couldn't find much information about them other than this: | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 2411 Registered: 05-2005 |
still don't understand why they don't cut the salt with sand... | ||
Lnfant Member Username: Lnfant Post Number: 189 Registered: 05-2008 |
big, you seem to have an endless supply of those fruitcake graphics–one for every occasion. | ||
Fishtoes2000 Member Username: Fishtoes2000 Post Number: 725 Registered: 06-2005 |
quote: I've heard that sand causes maintenance issues with storm sewer systems. Sand is a better choice for rural areas without storm sewers. | ||
Johnnny5 Member Username: Johnnny5 Post Number: 856 Registered: 06-2005 |
For one sand does not work very well especially when the temps get well below freezing. It also causes silting issues with surrounding water ways and storm drains, builds up over the winter creating a mess in the spring and is very abrasiveness and tough on the roadways and equipment. Plus it still has the same costs of fuel usage and labor costs. The county also would have to pay for the sand and keep it completely dry while in storage and in the trucks (Otherwise it turns into a giant frozen, spreader clogging dirt ball =). | ||
Bike4beer Member Username: Bike4beer Post Number: 37 Registered: 09-2008 |
Sand is also hard on cars from what I have read. Acts like a sand blaster on the car. I am sure your windshield would get a bit hazy from sand blowing around. I am wondering how big an impact this will really have anyway. The county does only the county roads while the city takes care of the rest (at least in Dearborn). Also. Who knows how bad a winter we will have this year. This all could be mute if we don't have that severe of a winter. | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 9650 Registered: 10-2003 |
http://www.esnowshoes.com/inde x.php | ||
Johnnny5 Member Username: Johnnny5 Post Number: 857 Registered: 06-2005 |
http://www.movetomexico.com/ =) | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 9652 Registered: 10-2003 |
Nice! | ||
Ro_resident Member Username: Ro_resident Post Number: 340 Registered: 11-2003 |
Road agencies are cutting back on the use of salt because of cost and environmental concerns. They also seem to be willing to try new methods for keeping the road safe--by using preicing liquids like beet juice, brining, monitoring when, where and how much salt is being put down, and other types of deicers (magnesium, calcium based products). Sand is pretty hard on the storm water system. Also, it tends to clog pervious pavements used in some parking lots and road edges. | ||
Rid0617 Member Username: Rid0617 Post Number: 345 Registered: 03-2008 |
Sand is all they use here. No salt, no rusted cars. They are experimenting with some kind of fluid mixture that as long as it's put down before the road freezes it will remain unfrozen. Also on bridges they have installed sensors which keep track of temps. Soon as it hits freezing sprayers take care of the bridge and it don't freeze. The only way I talked my wife into moving up there was telling her they keep better track of the roads than they do down here. down here there can be a half a inch of snow on the ground and school is canceled. | ||
Ct_alum Member Username: Ct_alum Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2008 |
Bike4Beer: Try this: Use "moot" instead of "mute"; that way you won't sound like an idiot. I have never met an issue or a point that can talk, so obviously, they can't be mute either. Common mistake, but very annoying none the less. Thanks! | ||
Bike4beer Member Username: Bike4beer Post Number: 40 Registered: 09-2008 |
Ct_alum: I will be looking forward to annoying you as much as possible in the future. Not really sure if it really warranted calling me an idiot though. Didn't know that this forum was being graded. (Message edited by bike4beer on November 13, 2008) | ||
Ct_alum Member Username: Ct_alum Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2008 |
Bike4Beer: You're right, I was a little harsh - Sorry! Please feel free to continue to annoy me at any time, that's what makes this country great. | ||
Bike4beer Member Username: Bike4beer Post Number: 41 Registered: 09-2008 |
Ct_alum: No problem. Wait till you get to know me before you call me an idiot. Now back to discussion on the intended topic | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 10508 Registered: 10-2003 |
How about snow tires and driving slower? How about shoveling in front of your business or house to the middle of the road and the neighbour across the street do the same? Saves on plowing expenses and salt. That money could be used elsewhere in the city budget. No, instead we should demand more and more and then whine about taxes. What happened to the north americans and the ability to overcome? Wwe sure as shit have become nations of whiners and couch warmers. | ||
Texorama Member Username: Texorama Post Number: 312 Registered: 12-2006 |
Ann Arbor uses a lot of sand, per environment-oriented measures of a decade ago. And it doesn't work very well. It always takes a day or two to see clear roads, and the differences when you cross into the township-maintained areas and especially into Ypsilanti are dramatic. During a snowy afternoon commute the delays here are insane. However, we survive. Maybe this winter we'll just be even-steven with everybody else. | ||
Ndmom Member Username: Ndmom Post Number: 198 Registered: 05-2005 |
Goat, I thought about shoveling/plowing into middle of street also but I don't think most people would do it. I wonder what the insurance companies are saying about this. Of course, they will just pass the cost onto us. | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 3868 Registered: 01-2005 |
.....and you all laugh at me for bailing outta Detroit for Las Vegas. Paid my dues, I did. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9120 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: In my old neighborhood, there was an old guy who had a plow on his truck, and he would plow the nearby streets for everybody. He's too old now, so my dad took over. It's a really nice thing to do for your neighborhood, they do not have city plow service unless things get really bad (it's a township) |
