Timmyjohn Member Username: Timmyjohn
Post Number: 10 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 12:25 pm: | |
Has anyone been there? |
Rsa Member Username: Rsa
Post Number: 905 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 12:29 pm: | |
http://thestonehousebar.tripod .com/# there was a FSC (forum social club) outing there a while back. you can search the archives for people's experience there. |
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 1734 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 1:56 pm: | |
Been there, years ago. Very quirky place. It appears (from the web site) to be catering to motorcyclists now. |
Fishtoes2000 Member Username: Fishtoes2000
Post Number: 714 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 1:59 pm: | |
It's a fun place to bring a group of friends and drink beer. It was the last official stop on our World Beer Bike Tour 2008. |
Terryh Member Username: Terryh
Post Number: 1085 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 9:45 pm: | |
From what I recall about the place there was a lot of loud mouth uncouth disagreeable negative patrons. Lots of tension in the air. Horrible place to visit.....also the spot is located in a very racist anti-white bleak neighborhood.....dont waste youre time! |
Mashugruskie Member Username: Mashugruskie
Post Number: 413 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 11:32 pm: | |
But Country Bob & The Blood Farmers play there.... |
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj
Post Number: 741 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 11:45 pm: | |
Would you call Ron Asheton and Iggy Pop loud mouth uncouth disagreeable negative patrons? (Message edited by rjlj on January 07, 2009) |
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg
Post Number: 2114 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 11:52 pm: | |
1987 photo:
|
Gannon Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 8953 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 1:38 am: | |
I drop in there when I'm nearby, it is a great place to cool down with a beer or two at the end of the workday. When I was biking to Royal Oak and back over the summer I stopped in occasionally. One time the barkeep didn't charge me for my fries...burger was really good...and I dropped in on my way back home later to settle with him. He hasn't forgotten me since! Cheers, the Stonehouse is a fine place...but like any surely morphs by the hour as alcohol saturation increases! Perhaps Terryh was in later than me... |
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289
Post Number: 836 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 3:14 am: | |
What was the deal with the fire bombing? last month? Ain,t heard really alot about it since it was posted. |
Stnfrnt Member Username: Stnfrnt
Post Number: 331 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 3:47 pm: | |
Gannon or Reddog289...get over on the Garwood Mansion thread and tell Old Guy about this place. |
Jarvo Member Username: Jarvo
Post Number: 65 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 8:15 pm: | |
...it still looks pretty much the same today as it does in the 1987 photo...it is a friendly joint ...said to be the oldest/longest established running bar business in the city??...they have bands play there sometimes...motorcycle enthusiasts gather there...they have a saying something like "walk in as a stranger and leave as a friend"...or something to that effect...it is right near the michigan state fairgrounds...i grew up and went to school right near it in the same neighborhood... |
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289
Post Number: 845 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 1:58 am: | |
Stnfrnt, Thanks for sending me to the Garwood thread and getting greeted by Dick the Bruiser. Btw the StoneHouse is on my Bar to go to list.That and the really old one on the Eastside.Gannon better do the talking. |
Rj_spangler Member Username: Rj_spangler
Post Number: 89 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 3:04 am: | |
"the really old one on the Eastside" ??? |
Gannon Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 8969 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 3:30 am: | |
Sounds like where you do that Sunday thang, RJ, the Cadieux Cafe. Only other one that would fit that description is Roma Cafe, but it ain't THAT far east! Stonehouse is a real litmus of a place, where someone like Terryh can judge the mettle of a woman. Not unlike the Golden Fleece in Greektown, Duly's on the west side, the Apex in New Center, and that diner in Corktown...another addition to Detroit's fair collection of adorable dive joints. They are prima dona filters...heh. Keepin' it REALLY real. Remembered that FSC just yesterday with Mrs. Histeric...that was the first night we met her tangibly, pert certain Lowell showed up, too. We were wondering if Itsjeff was there, pretty sure he was...I don't think I'd have gone there willingly without his escort, heh. Guy was fearless. Cheers |
Pkbroch Member Username: Pkbroch
Post Number: 223 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 11:34 am: | |
I ran a business three buildings south of the Stone House from 1982 until I sold it in 2003. The area was mostly Chaldean, then the dope dealers came in and the neighborhood started to become abandoned. During the Coleman Young era The trash was never picked up, the alleys never cleaned, streetlights never worked. But the Stone house was always open. Carnies from the fair liked the place along with bikers. If you drive by in the summer you can see them on the porch, big white guys with big bikes. As for the neighborhood people they are poor, not anti- white, racist, as our well known doomsayer would have you believe. Had a cold one there last summer, no problems. And this is from a 60ish white gal. |
Fishtoes2000 Member Username: Fishtoes2000
Post Number: 720 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 12:56 pm: | |
I believe the saying is more like "walk in as a stranger and leave a little stranger." |
Isle_of_fun Member Username: Isle_of_fun
Post Number: 163 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 4:54 pm: | |
hey gannon have U ever been to this place? http://www.dakota-inn.com/web/ pages/home/ heard a little about it but was just wondering if you heard anything? |
Gannon Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 8974 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 6:58 pm: | |
Yeah, that was another Forum Social Club gathering...where I saw 56Packman play their in-house organ. Cool joint, the Rathskellar...food is simply amazing authentic German. The Frauleins friendly. The atmosphere is amazing, once you get inside it is another world. Cheers!h |
Isle_of_fun Member Username: Isle_of_fun
Post Number: 164 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 8:01 pm: | |
thanks Gannon cheers back at you |
Original63 Member Username: Original63
Post Number: 417 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 8:24 pm: | |
Stone house is a great little bar, always friendly, never racist and most times very diverse in crowd. U of D students once in a while to sometimes a a Palmer Woods resident to lots of Bikes and other folks, usually some working folks or Royal Oakers. TerryH was the one asking for racist brawl anecdotes yesterday....so I would take his/her comments with a box of salt. |
Lakesuperior Member Username: Lakesuperior
Post Number: 128 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 12:12 pm: | |
the stonehouse is great. i've been there numerous times (i'm a chick) with a girlfriend of mine and we have always been greeted warmly and then left well enough alone, unless we were interested in making friends. and high lifes are cheap! |
Gnome Member Username: Gnome
Post Number: 2244 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 12:45 pm: | |
Isle_of_fun, gotta agree with Gannon's quick review of the Dakota. If you haven't visited, you need to put it on your list. The place is truly incredible, from the pitchers of Blatz, to the elk and deer mounts, to the kartoffelpuffen aka potato pancakes. By far the best around. Their hours are a little hard to remember so I always try to call ahead. The guy that guards the parking lot like stoggies, I usually slide him a few bucks wrapped around couple of white owls. Friday evenings are best for their sing-a-longs. Really. Old fashion sing-alongs. |
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 1743 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 4:12 pm: | |
Ah, the Rathskellar gets a mention. Es ist nicht der schnitzelbank? Ja, das ist der schnitzelbank! Quite fun to sing along with after a half-dozen pints. (Don't worry, kids, remember your Prof carries a bus pass.) |
Savannah Member Username: Savannah
Post Number: 103 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 4:58 pm: | |
God, this thread makes me remember when my parents would go out in the 60's in a real city, Detroit. I live in a tourist trap. The restaurants are filthy, the service lousy,the serving staff usually have 3 inch fingernails, and look as though they haven't bathed in a week.I remember my parents were talking about going to a place called "The Moon" where Tom Jones was scheduled to appear... |
Jenniferl Member Username: Jenniferl
Post Number: 238 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 1:38 am: | |
Little known trivia about the Dakota Inn Rathskeller... The family that owns it are relatives of Keith "Noir Leather" Howarth. |
Wintersmommy Member Username: Wintersmommy
Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2008
| Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 9:55 am: | |
Where is this place? |
Gnome Member Username: Gnome
Post Number: 2253 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 10:06 am: | |
Welcome Winter: John R. north of 6 mile by about a 1/3rd of a mile. East of Woodward. Good size parking lot on the south side of the building with overflow parking across the street. http://www.dakota-inn.com/web/ pages/home/ JEnnifer1, didn't know that about Noir. Seems like a funny connection, but then again those Germans seem to have a thing about leather. |
Wintersmommy Member Username: Wintersmommy
Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2008
| Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 10:35 am: | |
Thanks Gnome! I have been lurking for a while but havent posted/responded I do know where the Dakota inn is at..when i was younger my dad used to take me there I would like to know where the stone house bar is though? |
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg
Post Number: 2115 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 11:27 am: | |
Google Map location of the Stone House Bar. |
Wintersmommy Member Username: Wintersmommy
Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2008
| Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 12:07 pm: | |
^thank you |
Rsmack Member Username: Rsmack
Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2009
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 8:38 pm: | |
Two problems with the Stone House Bar. They are not Michigan's oldest continuously operating bar. There and many bars in Michigan and Detroit that are older. I doubt if the Purple Gang ever had their clubhouse there. The Purple Gang was based around Eastern Market and the lower east side of Detroit. Their clubhouse would not have been outside of there territory and out in the "boonies". Levinson's Restaurant next to the old Roxy Theater on Woodward near Adelaide was the gangs headquarters. |
Terryh Member Username: Terryh
Post Number: 1129 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 9:03 pm: | |
How did you get that info Rsmack..I love finding gangster related articles from way back in the newspaper microfilm room at the Detroit Public Library. |
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 2082 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 9:13 pm: | |
The Purple Gang was very active in the North End, where the Oakland Sugar House was located. |
Terryh Member Username: Terryh
Post Number: 1132 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 9:26 pm: | |
True Fury...the Sugar House was located on an empty lot on Oakland at Holbrook..several dramas and shootings unfolded on Holbrook west of Oakland, and in front of the Sugarhouse...It would interesting to do an archealogical dig at the site... |
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg
Post Number: 2232 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 9:50 pm: | |
quote:They are not Michigan's oldest continuously operating bar. There and many bars in Michigan and Detroit that are older. There are probably many other bars in Michigan that can legitimately make the same claim if they received their state operating license at the same time as this place did with the repeal of Prohibition on May 11, 1933. It began operation that month as the "Sportsmen's Rendezvous Bar" and when the original owner died in 1940, his widow sold his share to his partner, who renamed it the "Stonehouse Bar". I know these to be facts since I am distantly-related to the original owner, but I find the current owner's claims of rumors about the Purple Gang to be far-fetched. The 1928 City Directory lists this address as the home of Gus Constas who also operated a "lunch" there. Many bars and taverns repositioned themselves as "lunches" or "dairy bars" during Prohibition, so it's possible that this place might have been a bar prior to Prohibition. (Message edited by Mikeg on February 16, 2009) |
Terryh Member Username: Terryh
Post Number: 1136 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 10:49 pm: | |
Could have been a speakeasy...Maybe Gus had a side hustle selling booze...folks sold out of their home also... |
Rsmack Member Username: Rsmack
Post Number: 6 Registered: 02-2009
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 11:18 pm: | |
The purple gang hangout is in a book on Google Books called "Untold Tales Unsung Heroes, A Oral History of Detroit's African American Community 1918-1967". Look for Henry Biggs Here is the link but it is a big one might have to copy & paste. The whole book is good reading. http://books.google.com/books? id=Db4ErtWvCSIC&pg=PA46&lpg=PA 46&dq=purple+gang+headquarters &source=bl&ots=6CtWgIAG2Q&sig= hAW_F5CYeA73WGS1jFKkfn5hKv0&hl =en&ei=_BOaSZqWE5DWMYDOyPcL&sa =X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct= result#PPP1,M1 |
Terryh Member Username: Terryh
Post Number: 1137 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 10:15 am: | |
Thanks Rsmack. I have browsed the book in the library but never read it from cover to cover. |