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Timmyjohn
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Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 12:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone been there?
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Rsa
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Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 12:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://thestonehousebar.tripod .com/#

there was a FSC (forum social club) outing there a while back. you can search the archives for people's experience there.
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Professorscott
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Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 1:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Been there, years ago. Very quirky place. It appears (from the web site) to be catering to motorcyclists now.
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Fishtoes2000
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Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 1:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's a fun place to bring a group of friends and drink beer. It was the last official stop on our World Beer Bike Tour 2008.
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Terryh
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Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From what I recall about the place there was a lot of loud mouth uncouth disagreeable negative patrons. Lots of tension in the air. Horrible place to visit.....also the spot is located in a very racist anti-white bleak neighborhood.....dont waste youre time!
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Mashugruskie
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Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 11:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But Country Bob & The Blood Farmers play there....
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Rjlj
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Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 11:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Would you call Ron Asheton and Iggy Pop loud mouth uncouth disagreeable negative patrons?

(Message edited by rjlj on January 07, 2009)
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Mikeg
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Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 11:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1987 photo:

bar
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 1:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I drop in there when I'm nearby, it is a great place to cool down with a beer or two at the end of the workday.

When I was biking to Royal Oak and back over the summer I stopped in occasionally. One time the barkeep didn't charge me for my fries...burger was really good...and I dropped in on my way back home later to settle with him.

He hasn't forgotten me since!


Cheers, the Stonehouse is a fine place...but like any surely morphs by the hour as alcohol saturation increases! Perhaps Terryh was in later than me...
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Reddog289
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Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 3:14 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What was the deal with the fire bombing? last month? Ain,t heard really alot about it since it was posted.
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Stnfrnt
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Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 3:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gannon or Reddog289...get over on the Garwood Mansion thread and tell Old Guy about this place.
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Jarvo
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Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...it still looks pretty much the same today as it does in the 1987 photo...it is a friendly joint ...said to be the oldest/longest established running bar business in the city??...they have bands play there sometimes...motorcycle enthusiasts gather there...they have a saying something like "walk in as a stranger and leave as a friend"...or something to that effect...it is right near the michigan state fairgrounds...i grew up and went to school right near it in the same neighborhood...
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Reddog289
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 1:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stnfrnt, Thanks for sending me to the Garwood thread and getting greeted by Dick the Bruiser. Btw the StoneHouse is on my Bar to go to list.That and the really old one on the Eastside.Gannon better do the talking.
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Rj_spangler
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 3:04 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"the really old one on the Eastside" ???
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Gannon
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 3:30 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like where you do that Sunday thang, RJ, the Cadieux Cafe.

Only other one that would fit that description is Roma Cafe, but it ain't THAT far east!


Stonehouse is a real litmus of a place, where someone like Terryh can judge the mettle of a woman. Not unlike the Golden Fleece in Greektown, Duly's on the west side, the Apex in New Center, and that diner in Corktown...another addition to Detroit's fair collection of adorable dive joints.

They are prima dona filters...heh. Keepin' it REALLY real.


Remembered that FSC just yesterday with Mrs. Histeric...that was the first night we met her tangibly, pert certain Lowell showed up, too. We were wondering if Itsjeff was there, pretty sure he was...I don't think I'd have gone there willingly without his escort, heh.

Guy was fearless.


Cheers
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Pkbroch
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I ran a business three buildings south of the Stone House from 1982 until I sold it in 2003. The area was mostly Chaldean, then the dope dealers came in and the neighborhood started to become abandoned. During the Coleman Young era The trash was never picked up, the alleys never cleaned, streetlights never worked.
But the Stone house was always open. Carnies from the fair liked the place along with bikers. If you drive by in the summer you can see them on the porch, big white guys with big bikes. As for the neighborhood people they are poor, not anti- white, racist, as our well known doomsayer would have you believe.
Had a cold one there last summer, no problems. And this is from a 60ish white gal.
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Fishtoes2000
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe the saying is more like "walk in as a stranger and leave a little stranger."
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Isle_of_fun
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 4:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey gannon have U ever
been to this place?
http://www.dakota-inn.com/web/ pages/home/

heard a little about it but was just
wondering if you heard anything?
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Gannon
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 6:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, that was another Forum Social Club gathering...where I saw 56Packman play their in-house organ.

Cool joint, the Rathskellar...food is simply amazing authentic German. The Frauleins friendly. The atmosphere is amazing, once you get inside it is another world.


Cheers!h
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Isle_of_fun
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 8:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks Gannon
cheers back at you :-)
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Original63
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 8:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stone house is a great little bar, always friendly, never racist and most times very diverse in crowd. U of D students once in a while to sometimes a a Palmer Woods resident to lots of Bikes and other folks, usually some working folks or Royal Oakers.

TerryH was the one asking for racist brawl anecdotes yesterday....so I would take his/her comments with a box of salt.
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Lakesuperior
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Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 12:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the stonehouse is great. i've been there numerous times (i'm a chick) with a girlfriend of mine and we have always been greeted warmly and then left well enough alone, unless we were interested in making friends. and high lifes are cheap!
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Gnome
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Isle_of_fun, gotta agree with Gannon's quick review of the Dakota. If you haven't visited, you need to put it on your list.

The place is truly incredible, from the pitchers of Blatz, to the elk and deer mounts, to the kartoffelpuffen aka potato pancakes. By far the best around.

Their hours are a little hard to remember so I always try to call ahead. The guy that guards the parking lot like stoggies, I usually slide him a few bucks wrapped around couple of white owls.

Friday evenings are best for their sing-a-longs. Really. Old fashion sing-alongs.
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Professorscott
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Ah, the Rathskellar gets a mention. Es ist nicht der schnitzelbank? Ja, das ist der schnitzelbank! Quite fun to sing along with after a half-dozen pints. (Don't worry, kids, remember your Prof carries a bus pass.)
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Savannah
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Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 4:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

God, this thread makes me remember when my parents would go out in the 60's in a real city, Detroit. I live in a tourist trap. The restaurants are filthy, the service lousy,the serving staff usually have 3 inch fingernails, and look as though they haven't bathed in a week.I remember my parents were talking about going to a place called "The Moon" where Tom Jones was scheduled to appear...
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Jenniferl
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Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 1:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Little known trivia about the Dakota Inn Rathskeller...
The family that owns it are relatives of Keith "Noir Leather" Howarth.
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Wintersmommy
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Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 9:55 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where is this place?
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Gnome
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Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 10:06 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Welcome Winter:

John R. north of 6 mile by about a 1/3rd of a mile.

East of Woodward. Good size parking lot on the south side of the building with overflow parking across the street.

http://www.dakota-inn.com/web/ pages/home/


JEnnifer1, didn't know that about Noir. Seems like a funny connection, but then again those Germans seem to have a thing about leather.
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Wintersmommy
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Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 10:35 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Gnome! I have been lurking for a while but havent posted/responded
I do know where the Dakota inn is at..when i was younger my dad used to take me there :-)
I would like to know where the stone house bar is though?
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Mikeg
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Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 11:27 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Google Map location of the Stone House Bar.
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Wintersmommy
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Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 12:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^thank you
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Rsmack
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Two problems with the Stone House Bar. They are not Michigan's oldest continuously operating bar. There and many bars in Michigan and Detroit that are older. I doubt if the Purple Gang ever had their clubhouse there. The Purple Gang was based around Eastern Market and the lower east side of Detroit. Their clubhouse would not have been outside of there territory and out in the "boonies". Levinson's Restaurant next to the old Roxy Theater on Woodward near Adelaide was the gangs headquarters.
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Terryh
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 9:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How did you get that info Rsmack..I love finding gangster related articles from way back in the newspaper microfilm room at the Detroit Public Library.
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Fury13
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The Purple Gang was very active in the North End, where the Oakland Sugar House was located.
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Terryh
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True Fury...the Sugar House was located on an empty lot on Oakland at Holbrook..several dramas and shootings unfolded on Holbrook west of Oakland, and in front of the Sugarhouse...It would interesting to do an archealogical dig at the site...
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Mikeg
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 9:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

They are not Michigan's oldest continuously operating bar. There and many bars in Michigan and Detroit that are older.



There are probably many other bars in Michigan that can legitimately make the same claim if they received their state operating license at the same time as this place did with the repeal of Prohibition on May 11, 1933. It began operation that month as the "Sportsmen's Rendezvous Bar" and when the original owner died in 1940, his widow sold his share to his partner, who renamed it the "Stonehouse Bar". I know these to be facts since I am distantly-related to the original owner, but I find the current owner's claims of rumors about the Purple Gang to be far-fetched. The 1928 City Directory lists this address as the home of Gus Constas who also operated a "lunch" there. Many bars and taverns repositioned themselves as "lunches" or "dairy bars" during Prohibition, so it's possible that this place might have been a bar prior to Prohibition.

(Message edited by Mikeg on February 16, 2009)
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Terryh
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could have been a speakeasy...Maybe Gus had a side hustle selling booze...folks sold out of their home also...
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Rsmack
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The purple gang hangout is in a book on Google Books called "Untold Tales Unsung Heroes, A Oral History of Detroit's African American Community 1918-1967". Look for Henry Biggs Here is the link but it is a big one might have to copy & paste. The whole book is good reading.

http://books.google.com/books? id=Db4ErtWvCSIC&pg=PA46&lpg=PA 46&dq=purple+gang+headquarters &source=bl&ots=6CtWgIAG2Q&sig= hAW_F5CYeA73WGS1jFKkfn5hKv0&hl =en&ei=_BOaSZqWE5DWMYDOyPcL&sa =X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct= result#PPP1,M1
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Terryh
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 10:15 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Rsmack. I have browsed the book in the library but never read it from cover to cover.

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