Jcsuperstar Member Username: Jcsuperstar
Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 10:38 am: | |
Zaccaro's market is liquidating their inventory and closing the store. I talked to the manager this morning who informed me so I could pick up some equipment I have there. Very sad. |
Cub Member Username: Cub
Post Number: 1108 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 10:42 am: | |
Wow!!! It hasn't been a year has it? |
Jonesy Member Username: Jonesy
Post Number: 533 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 11:02 am: | |
Way to ruin my morning. |
English Member Username: English
Post Number: 421 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 11:10 am: | |
Very bad news, but not unexpected in this economic climate. Sigh... |
D_parcells Member Username: D_parcells
Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 11:13 am: | |
it is really unfortunate. They could have succeeded, but the owner kept trying to do more and more things out of that space instead of concentrating on doing one thing well (groceries etc.). Good concept, poor execution from an owner with zero retail or food experience who kept hiring people with zero experience. |
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj
Post Number: 768 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 11:27 am: | |
^^^???? |
Registeredguest Member Username: Registeredguest
Post Number: 132 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 11:32 am: | |
Spot on, D_parcells - from waiting 30 minutes to get some cheese sliced (and not because of crowds) to a general lack of knowledge about products to an inconsistent selection of perishable items (produce, meat, cheese), regular shopping there was difficult. I am not going to make a trip in the interest of charity, but rather need and convenience. If I cannot get what I need on a regular basis, then why go back and continue to be disappointed. I will miss their Michigan beer selection. One of the best. |
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua
Post Number: 1542 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 11:39 am: | |
I loved this place, and supported them as often as I could. They got a nice selection of things you can't find at a your common markets. This is really going to be a loss. |
Detroitpetanque Member Username: Detroitpetanque
Post Number: 207 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 11:57 am: | |
30 minutes to "cut the cheese?!" I could have done that in 30 seconds! But seriously, perhaps the owner(s) should have set up some training for the managers/staff. I think Zingermans in Ann Arbor offers training for food-based businesses. And Zingerman's does a marvelous amount of quality customer service. (Message edited by DetroitPetanque on February 09, 2009) |
Jfried Member Username: Jfried
Post Number: 486 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 12:01 pm: | |
F! I really hope this is not true. |
Hans57 Member Username: Hans57
Post Number: 363 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 12:12 pm: | |
This sucks to hear. However, from the start, I thought they should have opened their store closer to the Wayne State/Cultural district. They would've had much more foot traffic. When I would tell other students about the market, many of them would say "huh, where's that?." Zaccaro's left the only real market in the immediate area untapped. |
Crumbled_pavement Member Username: Crumbled_pavement
Post Number: 677 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 12:14 pm: | |
I guess it's true what they say, it is cold in the D! |
Urbanfisherman Member Username: Urbanfisherman
Post Number: 78 Registered: 07-2008
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 12:19 pm: | |
I can't wait for the lawsuits to start! Cindy Warner has had how many failed businesses now? |
Barebain Member Username: Barebain
Post Number: 22 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 12:22 pm: | |
Unfortunately, most everything they carried could be found cheaper at the various Eastern Market shops (Hirt, Cost Plus, Rocky), and their produce selection was far too limited (and costly) to make it worth frequent trips. Sadly, stories of lagging customer service were generally true, although the service did seem to get a little better with time. And yes, I agree that the well priced and extensive Michigan beer selection will be missed. My only concern is that this may scare off a future retailer with similar, but better executed, ambitions. |
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal
Post Number: 852 Registered: 09-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 12:38 pm: | |
Though this doesn't surprise me. I would prefer if this was validated by someone with more than 1 post. No offense Jcsuperstar. |
Hans57 Member Username: Hans57
Post Number: 364 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 12:42 pm: | |
I just got an email from Zaccaro's saying goodbye and thanks. crap. |
Sciencefair Member Username: Sciencefair
Post Number: 139 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 12:47 pm: | |
The store will be selling off their remaining inventory at 20% starting this week. very sad. |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 1901 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 12:50 pm: | |
I thought this was known already. This makes two failed Zaccaros. |
Rugbyman Member Username: Rugbyman
Post Number: 349 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 1:00 pm: | |
Waiting for Mikem's post to be censored in 3...2...1... |
Rugbyman Member Username: Rugbyman
Post Number: 350 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 1:03 pm: | |
BTW, that's exactly why you NEVER sign a personal guarantee for your LLC. The whole point of the LLC is to shield yourself from liability when things to south. |
Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors
Post Number: 1084 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 1:11 pm: | |
Me and you know it oh too well D Parcells... It really wasn't that a store like that couldn't thrive it was that it was 8 stores in one and not one was done correctly. |
Detroiterbychoice Member Username: Detroiterbychoice
Post Number: 164 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 1:34 pm: | |
Sucks to hear this is closing. Yes the store was overprice, but it was open past 5 and I support local as much as possible. I also liked going their to oogle that smoking hot girl with the curly locks. Should have made my move when I had the chance! |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 1018 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 1:55 pm: | |
Is it just me or do others feel like there is nothing left of the progress made in Detroit in the past decade... |
Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors
Post Number: 1085 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 2:03 pm: | |
Its amazing to think that she had visions of opening 5 to 10 in detroit alone, but could not focus on having a strong enough platform to run one... It is sad, there are alot of great people who worked there but its hard to sustain business when you buy your stock from a mile away and price it higher and to blame others for the mistakes the owner made... With the management mary go round and the uneasy distructive culture that one person can create it is truely sad. Cindy is a capitalist, who never took the time to get to know our fair city, and tried to come in and build a store within a month and capitalize on a much needed necesity in Detroit; Quality grocers. I feel that if she nurtured connections that she made instead of napoleon complex that she came in with the business would of flourished. Unfortunately she cut corners, and expected Detroit to bow at her feet for putting a 4900 sq ft grocer in Brush Park. The concept was great, the workers were great, but with out the power to change that mentality no one could change it besides Warner. I urge anyone else who understands the area to pick up the pieces and run with them. A business like this can succeed, even in the area it was in. But know you have to have the correct mentality going in and know it will be a tough road but in the end it can flourish. I know how desperately Detroit needs Grocers and feel so sad that Cindy Warner abused and capitalized on what should have been a great business. If she kept prices low and adjusted to give workers proper training and customer service, than even Zaccaro's could have flourished but with the 100 percent markup and lack of focus that Warner had, great people lost jobs and future business could possibly be hindered... My heart goes out to those workers and I hope you all can find work in these tough times. (Message edited by urbanoutdoors on February 09, 2009) |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 5241 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 2:14 pm: | |
If it was a management issue then someone might be able to step in and make a go of it. I've often wondered if a co-op would work again in these times. Ann Arbor's is still going. |
Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors
Post Number: 1086 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 2:22 pm: | |
It was a multitude of things but above all she wanted to make it a store for detroits elite not a store for Detroit which was completely impracticle... |
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit
Post Number: 1214 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 2:23 pm: | |
The Detroit News has an article online now - closing within 10 day |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 4469 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 2:25 pm: | |
Terrible! Zaccaros only open their market just a over 7 months ago and now they closing down. What a waste of money. I knew that he shouldn't open a store in a crackhead community. |
3rdworldcity Member Username: 3rdworldcity
Post Number: 1332 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 2:37 pm: | |
Her agreement to pay $15/ft gross rent was the kiss of death from the minute she signed the lease. It was a ridiculous rate for the location, and if I read the complaint correctly, she was required to pay for tenant upgrades (the failure to so having resulted in the liens.) Well run supermarket chains with significant buying power are lucky to gross 1.5% to 2% on sales. They can make substantial profits because they can control costs, provide unlimited free parking, have superior buying power, and most important, deal in large volumes. They don't pay $15/ft for raw space. With only 4900 sq feet of space she didn't have the space to run loss leaders. She probably received little or no support from suppliers, primarily because she didn't purchase enough stuff to make it worthwhile, and according o a friend who shopped there once, there was no parking. Business is no place for amateurs. To succeed in business in Detroit, one not only has to be extremely skilled, have deep pockets, but much, much luck. It appears Ms. Warner was not skilled in business, was undercapitalized, and very unlucky. Too bad. The landlord should have known better. The blind leading the blind. The landlord must have figured Ms. Warner was very collectible and therefore unconcerned about the credit of the tenant. |
Sciencefair Member Username: Sciencefair
Post Number: 140 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 2:47 pm: | |
for the record, there is plenty of parking in the back of the building. |