  Leland_palmer Member Username: Leland_palmer Post Number: 518 Registered: 08-2004 |
Officer assigned to council president, but use as chauffeur for son criticized amid soaring cop overtime. Christine MacDonald and David Josar / The Detroit News http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20090211/METRO /902110388 DETROIT -- Council President Monica Conyers has been using a police officer and department-issued car to chauffeur one of her sons to a private suburban school about 15 miles from the city. It's unclear how long Conyers has used the officer to escort her son, but Detroit News staffers witnessed an unmarked Crown Victoria police car drive the youth to school on Monday and Tuesday. On neither day did staffers see Conyers in the car or at the school. The car windows were heavily tinted. Advertisement But Conyers and her spokeswoman maintain she was in the car -- perhaps sleeping in the backseat -- and always accompanies her son with the officer. Police backed up the assertion. Her spokeswoman, Denise Tolliver, said Conyers has no choice: The police say she needs protection even to escort her child to school.... | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 1176 Registered: 11-2003 |
"But Conyers and her spokeswoman maintain she was in the car -- perhaps sleeping in the backseat..." Other places she could have been are in the trunk or riding underneath while holding on to the cars undercarriage. Didn't aides to John Conyers file a complaint a few years ago that they were forced to drive the kids to school among other household chores? | ||
Ongowwah Member Username: Ongowwah Post Number: 270 Registered: 03-2008 |
She just doesn't get it, does she? King Kwame has illustrated that uppity arrogance has run it's course in this town and the citizens have had enough of it. | ||
Threecardmonte Member Username: Threecardmonte Post Number: 6 Registered: 11-2008 |
It's also entirely plausible that Monica was wearing her cloak of invisibility both days. | ||
The_rock Member Username: The_rock Post Number: 1517 Registered: 11-2003 |
Come on John, as long as you are conducting a witch hunt in Washington to investigate Bush and Karl Rove, why not go after the witch in Detroit? Why go after 2 dead horses, when you can go after a live one? | ||
Searay215 Member Username: Searay215 Post Number: 42 Registered: 04-2007 |
I really do not understand in a city that has a shortfall of millions why members of the city council waste taxpayer money using cops as chauffers. This city is corrupt to the core and even a new mayor will not help.....Would the last one out of Detroit turn off the lights. | ||
Ruxy17 Member Username: Ruxy17 Post Number: 88 Registered: 08-2007 |
LOL 3card... this woman is something else. | ||
Defendbrooklyn Member Username: Defendbrooklyn Post Number: 954 Registered: 11-2005 |
Conyers is a loser and a perfect reflection of Detroit's reality... Blow up the council and get some new blood. It might be a better idea to have people who don't live in Detroit run Detroit. This way they can make some tough decisions that seem to never be made. People are too emotional about Detroit. Makes gigantic cuts and move on! | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 573 Registered: 02-2006 |
I can believe one of her offspring is even smart enough to get in to a private school. I think it is pretty clear that this woman is mentally ill. "Sleeping in the backseat"? come on. Who does that? Detroit I present you with what you deserve. | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1703 Registered: 05-2005 |
given how many times that woman claims to be sick or asleep or whatever, its a wonder she ever makes it to council chambers. | ||
Bobl Member Username: Bobl Post Number: 487 Registered: 07-2008 |
Cha ching, cha ching cha ching! The sound of cash wasted on private suburban school limousines. Cha ching, cha ching cha ching! The sound of cash wasted on four municipal elections in a year. "...a city full of idiots..." A quote from Aayanna Kilpatrick | ||
Sumas Member Username: Sumas Post Number: 691 Registered: 01-2008 |
Maybe the cop was there to protect the kids from her. | ||
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 2208 Registered: 12-2005 |
quote: Maybe the cop was there to protect her from the kids! Remember how she got served by an 8th grader named Kierra Bell? Kierra Bell, You’re a Hero. Monica Conyers, You’re a Thug. | ||
Ruxy17 Member Username: Ruxy17 Post Number: 89 Registered: 08-2007 |
whenever i find my jaw on the ground at Monica's outrageous behavior (which is pretty much every time she opens her mouth), i try to remember ^ that video. Kierra, a product of Detroit, basically tells Monica "are you effing kidding me?" it gives me hope that maybe the youth of the city don't look to their local leaders and think "oh so it's ok to be like that." | ||
Crumbled_pavement Member Username: Crumbled_pavement Post Number: 678 Registered: 08-2007 |
It's funny how the main politicians crying about how the city is beat up on by the suburbs (Conyers & Kilpatrick) don't even support the city themselves. Kilpatrick raced out of town to one of those evil racist lynch mob suburbs that were out to get him. Conyers sends her child to a school 15 miles outside the city limits. When will people stop falling for these politicians who claim to have Detroit's interests at heart? | ||
Buyamerican Member Username: Buyamerican Post Number: 895 Registered: 02-2007 |
....and she's a member of the Pension Board and seems to have easy access to the monies. The City of Detroit Pensions are in trouble because of bad investments and poor economy....we don't need a person with the mentality of a mushroom (Conyers) to have access to a nickel. I wonder how much of City of Detroit taxpayer money is going towards tuition to this private school. The arrogance goes on and on and on and on........ (Message edited by Buyamerican on February 11, 2009) | ||
Baselinepunk Member Username: Baselinepunk Post Number: 109 Registered: 03-2007 |
Conyers has no faith in the Detroit public school system? I could understand the escort if there were some sort of threat against the child; however, as that was not presented as a "defense" from her spokesperson it may be fair to assume that no threat exists. I feel that it is poor for a person who serves a community not to put their own family into the communities various systems. As a councilperson is this some sort of legit perk? Does Conyers pay for this service personally? Perhaps there is some sort of accounting of this documented some place -- if everything is on the "up and up". Personally, I grow very tired of this type of action. However, where does the blame really lay? With her? With the people who consistently vote her into office? With the police department? With the council for not enforcing ethics? The County for not fully investigating wasteful spending of public funds on personal items? The State for not getting on the County for not investigating the abuse of public funds? There is something to be said about those who "fight the system with guns blazing"; just as there is something to be said about those who use the system for personal means and utilize "blazing guns" as cover. After reviewing the above questions I feel that initial responsibility rests with those who vote this person into office and keep them in office. Unfortunately, the political system in D-Town proper is in such decline that it facilitates the personal agenda of people like Conyers. I respect those who counter the system with responsible, verifiable and well-supported evidence of "injustices". However, I feel that people who "fire for effect" do nothing to further discourse related to the "cause" they advocate. | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 1356 Registered: 11-2003 |
It's all bullshit, C_p. He just said the stuff he said as part of politics and leveraging the laws of power. They all do. By definition, politicians' currency is power. So they'll do, say, and feel whatever they think will get you to give them that power. Part of why I don't like many politicians of any stripe. Read the 48 laws of power sometime, and you'll see that the things politicians do are very calculated. You will see that one of the reasons they fail is that they break them or over-execute on them. Kwame is currently doing Law 17 (keep people off guard) and 25 - recreate yourself. We (royal "we") expected him to stay in Detroit, that was the role we've created for him (somewhat through the hints he previously left) but instead he's heading to Dallas - keeping us off guard on what he'll do next AND having him leave the box that the public has created for him. It's better to read the book, but here's the cheat sheet: http://www2.tech.purdue.edu/cg /Courses/cgt411/covey/48_laws_ of_power.htm | ||
Kenp Member Username: Kenp Post Number: 1356 Registered: 03-2006 |
Monica has mastered #6 | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 347 Registered: 12-2003 |
"With the people who consistently vote her into office?" Base, what the hell are you talking about? How long have actually lived in Detroit? You have strong opinions, but that statement makes me think you are ill informed or confused about Detroit politics. This is Monicas first term on City Council. Although it does seem like a lifetime. | ||
Baselinepunk Member Username: Baselinepunk Post Number: 110 Registered: 03-2007 |
"How long have actually lived in Detroit? " I do not live in the city presently; however, I did spend a great deal of residency in the city in my younger years which was quite some time ago. "You have strong opinions, but that statement makes me think you are ill informed or confused about Detroit politics." Quite frankly it does seem like a life time. I am neither ill-informed or confused regarding councilperson Conyers -- merely disinterested regarding her and/or her tenure. My commentary rested in the area of generality facilitated by my lack of pure knowledge regarding the subject matter. If that one comment is the only comment you take issue with, or represents a poorly-formed general posit, so be it. Guilty as charged. However, I am encouraged that even by not hitting one nail on the head, the others were driven home for you -- one out of a bunch ain't bad for morning work. | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 348 Registered: 12-2003 |
Base, I don't have an "issue" with anything anybody posts. It is not that serious to me. Everybody is allowed their opinion. That statement did need to be clarified. Other than that, you are going to be hard pressed to make me a defender of any member of council, much less Mrs. Conyers. | ||
Ct_alum Member Username: Ct_alum Post Number: 95 Registered: 10-2008 |
Once again, DPD is being used as a private security force for the "elites". Very disappointed that Chief Barren appears to be nothing but a slightly more honest lackey than Bully was. Two questions: 1. If Moncon is in the car to have "time with her son", why was she "sleeping in the back seat"? 2. Why is her son not attending a DPS? DPS good enough for the rest of us but not her children? | ||
Crumbled_pavement Member Username: Crumbled_pavement Post Number: 679 Registered: 08-2007 |
quote: DV, I know. What baffles me is that people fall for it. Kwame tried hard to paint his situation as the rich white suburbanites out to get him for being a successful young black man, yet at the first opportunity he ran into to the comforting arms of those supposed rich white suburbanites. Of course I know why he used the race card, what I can't understand is how people can fall for it when it is so blatantly bullsh*t. | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 350 Registered: 12-2003 |
Psssst, hey white people. Let me let you in on a secret. Don't let anybody know I told ya. The only ones the "race card" works on is white people. Us black folks already recognize racism when we see it. We also recognize BS when we see it. Now shhhhhh. Don't tell nobody I let you in on this secret. It could cost me my "black card" | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 1357 Registered: 11-2003 |
The average IQ is 100 in this country, as I've been told. The average income of a knowledge workers with computer skills, of which many of the forumers are (or at least have the knowledge skills by the coherent, usually grammatically correct and well thought-out posts on here, even if I don't agree with the content) is between 110 and 120. That's why people, everywhere, not just in Detroit, fall for it. It's simply smarter people manipulating the less smart. And just because someone doesn't appear smart does not mean they are not - it's one of the oldest tricks in the book to feign being less intelligent to win favor. It would not surprise me if Monica is doing this, looking at her educational record. | ||
Daddeeo Member Username: Daddeeo Post Number: 454 Registered: 09-2008 |
So you're saying she is crazy smart? | ||
Bobl Member Username: Bobl Post Number: 488 Registered: 07-2008 |
Jmil: Your quote: "Psssst, hey white people. Let me let you in on a secret. Don't let anybody know I told ya. The only ones the "race card" works on is white people. Us black folks already recognize racism when we see it. We also recognize BS when we see it. Now shhhhhh. Don't tell nobody I let you in on this secret. It could cost me my "black card""... Now let me pull your coat. You say the only ones the "race card" works on is white people. What a bunch of bullshit! It works on ignorant, fearful people. Period. No regard to pigment. Go ahead and "lose" your "black card". Peace | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 352 Registered: 12-2003 |
bobl, you may be right. But since I don't know any "ignorant, fearful people" I don't have anything to defend against your point. I do however know many black people, and have had this discussion many times, and pretty much we all agree. We recognze racism & we know when we are being played. The "race card" is played for white guilt, not as a rallying cry for all black folks to take up arms. | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 353 Registered: 12-2003 |
Never, ever, gonna give up the "black card". I'm Black, Proud & Loving it. Always have, Always will. | ||
Bobl Member Username: Bobl Post Number: 489 Registered: 07-2008 |
I was hoping that you would consider losing the black card crutch, and stand on your own, proudly. The race card is used by manipulators who lack a reasoned and persuasive argument, usually in support of the users' own selfish interests, or to maintain an undeserved position of power or financial strength. | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 357 Registered: 12-2003 |
"Crutch?" That is frickin hilarious, and so unworthy of comment. Usually, I would pass. However, I feel generous today, and will help you through your darkness. When I look at my beautiful black children, I am proud. When I look at my beautiful black parents, I am proud. When I researched my ancestry, and discovered about my family heritage, I was proud. At my family reunion, when I was surrounded by my beautiful black people, I was proud. When I am around my beautiful black brothas & sistas, I am proud. Black & Proud - no crutch neccessary. | ||
Crumbled_pavement Member Username: Crumbled_pavement Post Number: 680 Registered: 08-2007 |
Wow, I really didn't intend to hijack this thread and send it off onto this bizarre tangent. There is a difference between being proud of one's heritage and ducking behind one's heritage to make excuses for why they are robbing people. | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 358 Registered: 12-2003 |
c_p, debate "race card" vs. "black card" keep up "There is a difference between being proud of one's heritage and ducking behind one's heritage to make excuses for why they are robbing people." The keyword in that staement is "excuses" What criminal do you know that confesses and admits their actions are their own fault? When doesn't a topic turn to race on DY? post: It's a beautiful day. reply: not in the black hood and its wp fault reply: wp invented th sun why shouldn't enjoy the heat reply: bp invented the sun, wp stole it reply: well actually a bp was the one sold the sun amd all rights to it | ||
Mayor_sekou Member Username: Mayor_sekou Post Number: 2639 Registered: 09-2006 |
I want a black card so I can just up and impulsively buy a Veyron, that would be fun. That is the black card we are talking about right? | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 359 Registered: 12-2003 |
If ya gotta ask, it's not for you. | ||
Townonenorth Member Username: Townonenorth Post Number: 804 Registered: 10-2007 |
Big difference in terminology for me here. Black (or any other color)card= Pride for one's race. Race Card = Using race to deflect criticism. | ||
Dlb Member Username: Dlb Post Number: 20 Registered: 01-2007 |
(Message edited by dlb on February 11, 2009) | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 360 Registered: 12-2003 |
"Does this seem racist?" Did you mean it be? Racist would be; White & Proud, AND I hate Black people. "Ok, I'll stop now" Good Idea. | ||
Retroit Member Username: Retroit Post Number: 948 Registered: 04-2008 |
Jmil, as a proud black Detroiter, would you send your child to a white (presumably) suburban school? I think that was the point that Crumbled_pavement was making. If Monica Conyers did not have white, private, suburban school to send her child to, would that child end up as stupid as she is? It is time for black Detroiters to turn their "Black Pride" into "Accountability of Black Elected Officials". | ||
Billybbrew Member Username: Billybbrew Post Number: 247 Registered: 07-2005 |
Somewhere along the way I must have missed a geography lesson. It was always my understanding that your heritaige came from the country/continent where your ancestors were from. You know, Africa, India, Ghana,England, Ireland, Poland, Cuba, Mexico, Canada, etc. etc. I didn't know there was a country named "Black". Just like I never understood "African-American" Does that mean you like have dual citizenship? I'm just an American and proud of that fact. I'm also proud that my ancestors came here from Canada, Ireland and Germany, but that doesn't mean I'm Canadian-Irish-German American. I am a citizen of the United States of America, and therefore an American. Sometimes I don't get the race thing. Pride in heritaige yes, but where's the pride in your own citizenship. If the African-Americans of Detroit took as much pride in where they live NOW as opposed to where their ancestors came from, we'd have a world class city. | ||
Displaced Member Username: Displaced Post Number: 17 Registered: 01-2009 |
lol@ the race thing. i serve amongst my brothers. white, black, yellow, brown, rich, poor, smart, or stupid... fuck people, come on. one race, we all bleed red (go wings!). i just can't understand why we, as a people, can't come together for a positive purpose. for fucks sake, lets get it together. /rant | ||
Crumbled_pavement Member Username: Crumbled_pavement Post Number: 682 Registered: 08-2007 |
quote: I agree with what you are saying for the most part, but you have a lot of work to do to figure out where all these black people descended from. It's not like we willingly came over here and we know we are from Nigeria or Ethiopia or Ghana. That's where "black" comes in. I also agree that there is pride in one's heritage as well as the country they reside in. Let's get back to the topic of this maniac woman on the City Council. | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 361 Registered: 12-2003 |
Retro, I owe to my children the best education I can provide. That is not a black/white issue. It is a parental responsiblity issue. Black pride has nothing to do with holding elected officials accountable. That is a civic issue. I made thousands of post on DY, please find one instance that I have not been critical of a idiot/criminal elected official. Point of fact, I quit posting for a long time, cuz I had already stated my case about KK, et al to the point it would just be pile on. You might be new, I am not. | ||
Detroitchef Member Username: Detroitchef Post Number: 100 Registered: 09-2008 |
it's the basic white persons fault MonCon is nuttier than a fruitcake | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 362 Registered: 12-2003 |
Brewski, Thats the great part of this America you live in. You don't have to get it. And I don't have the time, energy or inclination to bother to bring you up to speed. Besides as they say, ignorance is bliss. Monica is one of the most blissful people around. Gotta go peeps. Its been fun, killing time with ya. Catch ya later - I'm out! | ||
Townonenorth Member Username: Townonenorth Post Number: 806 Registered: 10-2007 |
Yep! Subsonic, subliminal "white noise" beamed into her office daily! | ||
Sumas Member Username: Sumas Post Number: 698 Registered: 01-2008 |
I agree that ignorance is bliss and there are apparently a lot of blissful people. To get back on track, Monica's behavior is plain disgraceful. This is not a black or white issue. If people want to stretch the point it's about sex related issues. I agree with Kenyatta. You want to be treated like a lady then act like one. She is, simply put, one out of control person that needs serious help. Supposed power can go to peoples's heads. Frankly, our council is not all that important in the greater vista of life. If she was not so insane, I might feel sorry for her. Her husband needs to assist her towards some balance. Please commit her. | ||
Novine Member Username: Novine Post Number: 1094 Registered: 07-2007 |
"If the African-Americans of Detroit took as much pride in where they live NOW as opposed to where their ancestors came from, we'd have a world class city." So what's the excuse for the trashy "white" areas of SE Michigan? Don't claim they don't exist. We all can name areas of town that resemble a junkyard where you won't find one African-American. Are the white folks in those areas too busy taking pride in their "fill in the blank" heritage to keep from elevating their part of town into a "world class city"? Please. It's embarrassing to see that there are still people who think like this. | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 2348 Registered: 08-2007 |
the Irish have to live somewhere | ||
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln Post Number: 661 Registered: 06-2007 |
"DV, I know. What baffles me is that people fall for it. Kwame tried hard to paint his situation as the rich white suburbanites out to get him for being a successful young black man, yet at the first opportunity he ran into to the comforting arms of those supposed rich white suburbanites. Of course I know why he used the race card, what I can't understand is how people can fall for it when it is so blatantly bullsh*t." I don't think that many people fall for it. I think some people who like to use the race card themselves or try to use such manipulation for self-gain WANT to believe it so that it legitimizes their own behavior. I think a lot of people who talk like this really want to believe it because they feel a sense of pride having a cause to fight for. |
