  Macknwarren Member Username: Macknwarren Post Number: 110 Registered: 10-2007 |
The Detroit News' Charlie LeDoof has a great story in Thursday's paper. Some hockey players in that abandoned textbook warehouse next to the train station discovered a body, frozen upside down in a block of ice. Is that a Detroit classic or what? | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5186 Registered: 06-2004 |
Missing urban explorer, streetlifer accident, or criminal activity? http://www.wxyz.com/news/local /story/Body-Found-in-Block-of- Ice/5GoGhbwpbE2d23razgQEIQ.csp x Apparently the body had been there a while but offhand I don't recall any recent major missing persons reports. (Message edited by lilpup on January 29, 2009) | ||
Mama_jackson Member Username: Mama_jackson Post Number: 474 Registered: 06-2006 |
Hoffa? | ||
Hooligan Member Username: Hooligan Post Number: 6 Registered: 01-2008 |
The whole story here; http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20090128/M ETRO08/901280491 | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5187 Registered: 06-2004 |
Does LeDuff just toss stuff off like a scriptwriter, going home happy and well paid at the end of the day, or does he take home the wondering of why things are? At what point does it become exploitation? | ||
Kennyd Member Username: Kennyd Post Number: 90 Registered: 04-2008 |
We have to find a way to stop the messenger. Where's my gun? ;o) | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5188 Registered: 06-2004 |
It's just the nagging doubt that while Detroit makes good media material nobody creating it (foreign or domestic) really gives a shit beyond their paycheck. | ||
Leannam1989 Member Username: Leannam1989 Post Number: 176 Registered: 06-2008 |
Creepy. And sad. | ||
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289 Post Number: 874 Registered: 08-2007 |
saw the story on the night cam kinda creepy seeing DFD going down the ladder with chainsaws. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 1154 Registered: 05-2006 |
Sad this person died... May they rest in peace. ______________________________ ____________________ Why did Charles feel the need to add "the caller's friend is an urban explorer who gets thrills rummaging through and photographing the ruins of Detroit"? Way to go Chuckles... Good job making urban explorers the bad guy in your hack-job of a story. Yes its sad a person died, but the sadest part of this person's death is the way you feel the need to exploit it to further your career... Chuckie is a classic case of all thats wrong with our newspapers today... | ||
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine Post Number: 567 Registered: 04-2004 |
"Does LeDuff just toss stuff off like a scriptwriter, going home happy and well paid at the end of the day, or does he take home the wondering of why things are? At what point does it become exploitation?" Whatever, isn't it better it has been brought to attention through powerful images? Whether it sells the news today or not, it's a story and it makes people aware of this issue. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4041 Registered: 10-2003 |
So, how much you want to bet that this building will remain so widely open to the public? Isn't it far past time the city confronted Matty, already? How many more dead bodies in this man's properties will the city government have to be alerted to before they say "enough"? You know, I find it rather hard to focus on the calluousness of the urban explorers when my attention is quickly brought to the fact that neither they nor the man frozen in ice would have likely been in the building if Detroit's resident billionaire slumlord would make a reasonable attempt at properly securing his junk piles. You know, I'd hope this wouldn't be "just another day in Detroit" and that the city government would get serious about public safety in regards to these abandoned hulks, but I know that it won't be, for little more than the fact that the frozen man was very likely homeless. | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 2912 Registered: 01-2004 |
 "What happened to this person, one wonders? Murder in Motown is a definite possibility.." 'Bart's People', hard at work. | ||
Luckycar Member Username: Luckycar Post Number: 140 Registered: 02-2007 |
It's Mattys building.He should be taken down there in leg irons,under a court order with a police escort and be made to start securing these dumps he owns.Or the family of this frozen person should smack him around in court for a few million.I know they were "tresspassing",but anyone with a heart and soul can see how wrong this is. | ||
Macknwarren Member Username: Macknwarren Post Number: 111 Registered: 10-2007 |
Lilpup and anyone else who questions Charlie's motives: Can't we agree that this is a poignant story that speaks volumes about 2009 Detroit? Beyond the stark portrait of our grinding poverty, how about the great response of 911? It took a day and a half. One call was disconnected. The building is so open to trespass someone in a wheelchair could get in. Everone knows the oligarch who owns the building, yet no authority pressures him to fix it up or tear it down. I read that and the last thing I wonder about is whether the author goes home with a clean conscience. I wonder about the multiple levels of official incomptence this exposes and the downward-spiraling tragedy of where we call home. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5189 Registered: 06-2004 |
^^ and that's a very typical response but still doesn't reveal anything new or actually address any of the problems A lot of people care and already know about crap like this - the question is what practical action can people take that is effective and empowering instead of continually being berated for voting choices and lack of formal education? (Message edited by lilpup on January 29, 2009) | ||
Macknwarren Member Username: Macknwarren Post Number: 113 Registered: 10-2007 |
Do you think it shouldn't have been written? Just ignore it? | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5190 Registered: 06-2004 |
I think it could have been written differently. Since he's not doing straight reporting anyway he could use a more constructive approach. | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 1972 Registered: 08-2006 |
It's truly sickening how the quality of life for so many has degraded to the point they are more concerned with where thier next handful of change will come from rather then worrying about the loved ones of this man and if they wondering why he has not come home or called. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5191 Registered: 06-2004 |
Yet do those who have much better quality of life than they give them a second thought, either, beyond not wanting to see them? | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 1973 Registered: 08-2006 |
I dunno, it seems the ranks of those with the "better quality of life" erodes daily. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5192 Registered: 06-2004 |
all the more reason to try to find solutions that work | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1675 Registered: 05-2005 |
how do you play hockey knowing there is a dead guy over in the corner? i mean isn't that representative of the same apathy that is the scourge of this town? just sayin' i'd like to hope that matty's feet will get held to the fire on this one and he'll secure that fucking place once and for all, though i won't hold my breath (Message edited by gravitymachine on January 29, 2009) | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 752 Registered: 11-2003 |
Sickening to hear that they would continue to play hockey and not do anything about it. Probably didn't want to get the word out of their secret location. | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1676 Registered: 05-2005 |
http://www.clickondetroit.com/ news/18593098/detail.html# channel 4 is reporting that "a group of children" found the body heheh | ||
Big_baby_jebus Member Username: Big_baby_jebus Post Number: 49 Registered: 09-2008 |
Pictures from inside the warehouse... http://onlyndetroit.com/html/s team/schoolsout.htm graff pics... http://onlyndetroit.com/html/g raff/dpswarehouse.htm | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 2273 Registered: 08-2007 |
here's a link to a WWJ interview with LeDuff he discusses critics quote: http://www.wwj.com/Body-Found- Frozen-in-Elevator-Shaft/37473 47 Beside the sad nature of this story, I learned that our friend Matty owned that building. I always thought it belonged to the city. | ||
Navi Member Username: Navi Post Number: 23 Registered: 09-2005 |
Nice! Now if only someone would die in the Metropolitan, the Thorn Apple Valley Slaughterhouse and the old Fire Department you could really start boosting your traffic numbers! | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5193 Registered: 06-2004 |
"We made this society and it's up to us to fix it." No shit. Any suggestions? Or just more stories? | ||
Thefishwrap Member Username: Thefishwrap Post Number: 4 Registered: 11-2008 |
I don't know what some of you people want LeDuff to do.. I mean he's helping 'expose' the problem. He's not in charge, he can't fix everything. That's besides the fact that if you recall the Weekly Standard article, it was LeDuff that took action to get that abandoned house that killed the firefighter finally demolished: "Charlie had gone to New York for Thanksgiving, but promised Nevin that if that house was still standing when he got back, he'd start rattling cages and kicking in doors.... Charlie started working the phones, and after runarounds and dead ends, found a sympathetic city councilwoman, Sheila Cockrel, who fast-tracked the demolition at his behest, as a favor to the mourning firefighters. Still wearing his ever-present ski-hat, Charlie has shed the Carhartt work jacket and today has on his three-quarter length brown dress-leathers. It's a special occasion. There's not even a notebook in sight. He doesn't want to write. He just wants to take it in, as there are not a lot of days of similar triumph working for a dying newspaper in a dying town.... With the house now in a heap, the grateful firefighters are hugging it out. They hug everybody. Each other. Charlie. Me. Since his wife dropped him off, Charlie asks me if he can bum a ride back to the newspaper. As we start heading to my truck, he catches a black man and woman on the porch across from the house that killed Walt. He'd interviewed them previously and had apparently made promises to more than just Mike Nevin and the men of Squad 3/Engine 23. "Merry Christmas," Charlie bellows, pointing at them. "I told you we'd get that house knocked down." |
