  Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4123 Registered: 10-2003 |
*banging head against brick wall* quote: | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 8991 Registered: 12-2003 |
You do that enough, L, you just might make yourself dumb enough to agree with them. Be careful who you allow control over your emotion. It is YOUR emotion, after all. I'm betting on an epidemic of head-banging on this one...the fix is in. All of a sudden the Freep is the Law and Order rag in town?! | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4124 Registered: 10-2003 |
To be clear, I have no ill will against Evans. In fact, I think he's done quite a bit of good in his career for Wayne County. But, I don't think he's most suited to the vast majority of Detroit's problems at this particular time in its history. He's not the right kind of change. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 8992 Registered: 12-2003 |
He is too wrapped up with the previous administration to be as squeaky clean as his veneer implies. I don't trust him one whit. Kwhyme didn't get full control over his so-called jailcell's heating and cooling system...nor did he avoid the so-called food they feed the general population...OR have so many visitors without some extraordinary help from the dear Sheriff of Guttingham. Cheers | ||
Texorama Member Username: Texorama Post Number: 349 Registered: 12-2006 |
I see where they're coming from. Crime is the problem that spawns many of the others in Detroit; it robs the city of the entrepreneurial energies that naturally revive inner cities, even those with underlying dynamics as problematical as Detroit's. But does Evans have a proven record as a crime fighter? I don't really know him well--always thought he was pretty much a functionary of the Wayne County Democratic machine until he stepped up to run for mayor. | ||
Daddeeo Member Username: Daddeeo Post Number: 460 Registered: 09-2008 |
A mayor has to do many things to run a city. He can get someone to specialize in cutting down crime while he's busy getting business, the schools and city services back on track. A one dimensional guy won't cut it. | ||
Gsgeorge Member Username: Gsgeorge Post Number: 721 Registered: 08-2006 |
Why do Evans, Hendrix, and Bing get mentions in this article, but our current mayor (who is also running in this race) Ken Cockrel does not even get a byline, as if he was not running at all and should not even be considered? I for one am a big fan of Cockrel's realism & optimism. | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 1937 Registered: 11-2003 |
I wonder how many corners there are in Detroit. A cop on the beat on every corner would be amazing. Maybe if it was just every corner where at least one of the streets intersecting was not a side street. And then a call box on every corner that was two side streets. | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 1525 Registered: 11-2004 |
I wouldn't worry about it too much, Lmichigan. Newspaper endorsements don't amount to much when the rubber hits the road in politics. | ||
Bobby_wobby Member Username: Bobby_wobby Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2009 |
I don't understand ,Whats wrong with Cockrel? He stood up to Kwame and the council,and has a realistic plan for Cobo.As far as making Detroit safer ,we used to have 6000 cops,now we have 2200,and no money. | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 1362 Registered: 11-2003 |
I think this will be the best experiment yet as to how the newspapers actually effect a Detroit election, as Evans is what - single digits? Low 10's? Let's see from his last poll before the election to where he ends up now - and we'll have an interesting (albeit not 100% accurate) indicator of how much the Freep endorsement actually means, or if it's a catalyst. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 3764 Registered: 04-2006 |
I was pretty surprised at this endorsement considering how closely tied Evans is to the Kilpatricks. I don't believe the entire editorial board is too pleased by this endorsement. quote: You can thank the good sheriff's ex-wife for that... | ||
Stosh Member Username: Stosh Post Number: 26 Registered: 01-2009 |
I think that it's in the Freep's best interest to keep stirring the pot. A boring, efficient city doesn't sell papers. It seems as if that's the case here. | ||
Lodgedodger Member Username: Lodgedodger Post Number: 1478 Registered: 05-2008 |
Freep should have endorsed Cockrel. Evans? Give me a break. | ||
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten Post Number: 667 Registered: 05-2006 |
I don't understand this endorsment. What will Evans do to reduce crime in the city that isn't or hasn't been done already ? I'm sure he's done well in his current job but how does that equate to him being a good mayor ? I'm sure the politically astute members of this board can enlighten me. BTW Cockrel wasn't mentioned in the article because if you remember the earlier Freep article Cockrel didn't make the cut. | ||
Jonesy Member Username: Jonesy Post Number: 545 Registered: 07-2005 |
Last week the Free Press said they'd narrowed their endorsement choice down to 3 candidates, Bing, Evans, and Hendrix. I assume Cockrel wasn't mentioned because they had already weeded him out. | ||
Downtown_lady Member Username: Downtown_lady Post Number: 564 Registered: 08-2008 |
This is unbelievable. Did the Free Press forget about this little story, which they reported on January 10: [Note: I'm linking to the Detroit News version of the story, as I don't feel like paying $2.95 to the Free Press archives.] Detroit News, January 10, 2009 Sheriff's spending prompts layoffs Wayne County officials laid off 44 members of Sheriff Warren Evans' executive staff Friday [January 9], claiming his out-of-control spending on crab, shrimp and other foodstuffs for his employees left them little choice. http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20090110/METRO 01/901100378 Forty-four people laid off due to $928,569 in "abusive spending." But this is who the Free Press picks. Unbelievable. Here's the link to the Free Press article if you want to purchase it: http://search.freep.com/sp?aff =1100&skin=100&keywords=warren +evans+staffers+laid+off | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6150 Registered: 08-2004 |
Gsgeorge, To answer you about why the Freep didn't mention Cockrel, while they did mention Hendrix, Bing and Evans... in last Sundays editorial page they decided that Cockrel wasn't up to it, but that they were reserving their judgement between Hendrix, Bing and Evans as their choice for mayor. So that's why they only mentioned Hendrix, Bing and Evans in this Sundays editorial... | ||
Chrissy_snow Member Username: Chrissy_snow Post Number: 455 Registered: 07-2008 |
Well, if they thought Kwame's city credit card was outrageous, just wait until they get a load of Evans' card after 6 months as Mayor! I think its all a plot to sell more papers and win more journalism awards. After all, look what the KK stories did for them. It'll be a boring 4 years with Hendrix or Bing, however, Evans should provide lots of scandalous stories as he tries to re-employ the old KK crew and keep Ferguson in the lifestyle he's accustomed to. They couldn't endorse McPhail or Loving because it would be too obvious that they were up to something by choosing either of those clowns. | ||
Raptor56 Member Username: Raptor56 Post Number: 762 Registered: 05-2007 |
If news paper selling is the aim, why not support McPhail? she'd be way more entertianing in her failures than Evans. | ||
Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior Post Number: 1252 Registered: 10-2003 |
The inherent fallacy is that the next mayor wont take office until about June, which means that the current budget will be depleted and the next budget will have been set, by Cockrel....so this public safety effort for Evans will be an unfunded mandate for at least a year, providing that Evans also wins through in November. A poorly developed logic model has been applied here. | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 1918 Registered: 12-2004 |
quote: Cockrel shouldn't be considered because the only thing he does his cash his paycheck. Detroit needs more than that. quote: Is that the new euphemism for lazy and overpaid? quote: You mean, besides the fact that he collects a paycheck without doing any work? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4125 Registered: 10-2003 |
Hey, at least you aren't pimping Bing like you've done in almost every post you've made here in the last few months, so I guess that's some improvement. | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 1222 Registered: 11-2006 |
do you follow the man around all day? a lazy and overpaid fellow wouldn't ask to have his pay cut 20%, wouldn't open a closed police precinct, travel to Lansing to secure a deal on Cobo, open 4 mini-stations, report on the true status of the city's budget, travel to DC in support of the auto industry, meet with suburban officials and the state's legislative body to ease relations, etc. This in 4 months. Do me a favor, explain what you would do differently if you had 4 months at the helm of the most screwed up city in America, during the worst economic crisis in years, with the limited resources the city has, and dealing with a psychotic city council, in a state that despises your city. Yeah, stick to documentaries on abandoned buildings or internet blogs. | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 1919 Registered: 12-2004 |
quote: #1. When there's a shooting in my neighborhood, will that re-opened police station or any of the mini-stations respond? Will it do anything to improve police response time? No, they won't. Those were nothing but token gestures. Detroit needs more than tokens. #2. He got a deal on Cobo. Great, call the auto dealers and tell them to vote for him. Those of us who have to live with almost non-existent city services need more than that. #3. Kilpatrick told everyone last August that the City's budget deficit could go as high as $300 million. Today, Cockrel says that it's $300 million. How is saying that Kilpatrick was right 6 months ago "reporting on the true status of the city's budget"? #4. Did anything come from those meetings with suburban officials and/or the legislature? Anything relevant? Something besides more hot air? No. #5. As for the pay cut that he took, if he cuts his pay by another 80% then his pay will finally be in line with the work that he does. Until then, he shouldn't expect any gratitude from the people that he is stealing from every day. quote: I've mentioned them on several occasions. However, I'm not above repeating myself when the situation requires it. We are currently spending $19 million of City funds on the Harmonie Park/Paradise Valley project. Does anyone really want to tell me that we couldn't find a better use for those limited dollars? We are currently funding 5 different City agencies to work on economic development. None of them are doing a very good job of it. Those agencies need to be consolidated and overhauled. We can do a lot more with a lot less. We are currently spending $15.4 million to support a 9 member City Council. That amount is ridiculous. Cockrel should have opposed it when he was on the Council and he should do so now. We are also spending $11.8 million to operate the Mayor's Office itself. This also should be dramatically cut back. We are spending $11.9 million on the Civic Center. I love Hart Plaza as much as anyone else, but until we can make sure that everyone 9-1-1 emergency call is answered, this needs to be cut as well. We are spending millions of dollars every year to settle various law suits against the City. Every other major city in America has risk management program to curtail those losses. Detroit doesn't. It's long past time for us to address that. Source for all of those numbers is at http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/Po rtals/0/docs/budgetdept/2008-0 9_Redbook/Budget-in-Brief%2008 -09.pdf With the millions of dollars that could easily be saved if Cockrel was willing to put some some effort into serving his constituents, we could easily hire another couple hundred police officers, hire civilians to handle non-police functions within DPD and to make upgrades within the fire department. quote: Don't worry. I can do those things and still complain about a crocked politician who is wasting my money. The next time you see Cockrel, however, please ask him how many jobs there where you can get paid a 6-figure salary without producing any results. Even in politics, the answer is not many. Detroit can't afford to have such low standards for itself any longer. We shouldn't have to apologize for wanting the services that we've paid for nor should we have to put up with loud-mouth cronies who don't want their boss to have to do any work. | ||
Jacqueline Member Username: Jacqueline Post Number: 41 Registered: 08-2008 |
Fnemecek: Well put. | ||
Crash67 Member Username: Crash67 Post Number: 82 Registered: 05-2007 |
Wow, Frank, why don't you run for Mayor in the next cycle coming up later this year? You seem to know your stuff and have your program already pretty well thought out. | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 1363 Registered: 11-2003 |
I think it would be a great experience for you to run - and if elected, to see what the elected officials have to deal with - it's a lot more than people think and it's not as easy as it appears at first blush; it's only 10% about your policies, 90% about the use of the laws of power and war to put those policies into effect. Most of the "good" people I know who get into politics burn out really fast once they realize how it actually works. You can say there's policies until you're blue in the face but especially in a situation where the leadership has no stick (like Detroit and it's unions), you have a long road to hoe. There is a saying that never follow a man with large shoes - and like him or hate him, Kilpatrick had large shoes in many ways. Anybody who wasn't as outgoing and "out there" as Kilpatrick is going to look small in comparison. | ||
Pinewood73 Member Username: Pinewood73 Post Number: 74 Registered: 07-2006 |
It's all about selling papers. | ||
Bobby08 Member Username: Bobby08 Post Number: 124 Registered: 09-2008 |
Atleast the Metro Times is endorsing Cockrel! |
