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Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 626
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 10:50 am: |    |
You guys are retarded...calling for Leylands head...he isn't the guy swinging the bat or thowing a meatball down the middle of the plate... give it up you fair weather fans |
Smogboy
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Post Number: 7518
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 10:52 am: | |
Hey waitaminute... who here is seriously calling for Leyland's head?
Did I miss something?? |
D_mcc
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Post Number: 630
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 12:00 pm: | |
Sorry smog...I guess I took the title of the other thread seriously before I came in here and responded to this one |
401don
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Post Number: 356
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 12:49 pm: | |
I thought it was hilarious that Morgan said Guillen would win a gold glove this year based on a pre-game conversation with him where Guillen basically said he was going to try hard to learn the position. Morgan had not even seen him play. Guillen is very talented but has a habit of being non-chalant on routine plays. He slings throws side arm, his footwork is poor around the bag and he dropped the throw yesterday because he swiped with the glove before he securely had the ball (something you can't do with a big first baseman's mitt where you don't feel the ball as well).
Morgan drives me nuts as well because he repeats himself at least twice after everything he says like we're too stupid to understand the first time.
Going on the road may sound good, but Boston is the last place you want to try to break out of a slump. |
20043_stotter
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Post Number: 250
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 3:09 pm: | |
They're not calling for Leylands head. They're just mentally challenged. Text book cases of chronic denial that permeates their soul. |
20043_stotter
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Post Number: 251
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 3:10 pm: | |
Geez, what did he mean? |
Smogboy
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Post Number: 7521
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 5:24 pm: | |
stotter- did you even read anything about calling for Leyland's head? Did you look at the thread that was started by Lowell about it and the tone it had? Did you miss it as well?? |
Bragaboutme
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Post Number: 137
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 5:40 pm: | |
Do they play today? |
Flanders_field
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Username: Flanders_field
Post Number: 269
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 6:04 pm: | |
No, the Tigers do not play today, which should allow their fans' redlined shock and awe levels to drop until at least Tuesday afternoon at 2:05 pm @ Red Sox.
(Message edited by Flanders_field on April 07, 2008) |
Detroitbill
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Post Number: 602
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 9:10 am: | |
These guys just arent hungry at all.. Only the rookies and Inge seem to want to play.. Thats the problem, you put too many big money makers on one roster and they dont care to much,, they have their huge paychecks.. If you mix it with good hungry rookies, the juices start flowing, competitive natures come out..our mix is off key here. |
Bobj
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Post Number: 4368
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 9:25 am: | |
Give it time, they are all proven producers, they will pick it up. |
Smogboy
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Post Number: 7527
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:42 am: | |
Waitaminute here, Detroitbill... wasn't it just less than a few months ago that we all thought Brandon Inge didn't want to play here and our veteran players were going to carry this team?
I'm not so sure how much the players are even really dogging it because they hit it big with their paychecks. Look at Cabrera who worked out like a madman with Carlos Guillen to shed the pounds and did his pre-season conditioning. This was done well before a huge payday. It's one thing to say they're not playing well but it's another thing to accuse them of sandbagging it and not caring BECAUSE of their paychecks. |
Flanders_field
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Post Number: 271
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 11:10 am: | |
What is most disconcerting is the poor offensive performances (so far) of Maggs and Polly.
Maggs has averaged <3 pitches per plate appearance, has 0 RBIs/HRs and has not hit the ball hard much, mostly weak popups and lazy fly balls.
Polly is the last Tiger that I would have expected to slump at the plate, .087 BA/OBP.
Miggy looks like he will be threatening to break the record for GIDPs this season.
After a good spring training at the plate, Pudge is now below the Mendoza line, and leads the team in Ks with 6.
Only Inge has more than 2 RBIs.
Oh yeah...Wha choo throwin' at, Willis? |
401don
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Post Number: 359
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 1:01 pm: | |
I think AL teams have enough stats to know how to defend against Polanco now. He hit almost every ball hard but directly into the right side defense the first couple of games against KC.
Not saying he can't still be a .300 hitter but don't expect anything like last yr again unless he's able to make some major adjustments. |
Flanders_field
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Post Number: 272
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 3:30 pm: | |
Goodbye errorless streak for Polanco, resulting in a triple and a run scored by ManRam...
Inevitable....but appropriate considering the Tigers' overall play so far this season. |
Flanders_field
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Post Number: 273
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 3:33 pm: | |
Damn...Guillen had his left leg in the first baseline AGAIN for an error...injury just waiting to happen. |
D_mcc
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Post Number: 641
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 3:35 pm: | |
That E on polly shouldn't be on him, that was more of Cabreras error for trying to make the tag before he had the ball |
Flanders_field
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Post Number: 274
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 5:41 pm: | |
ohhhh & seven...fold
Good lord. |
Rjk
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Post Number: 1097
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 5:42 pm: | |
Carlos Guillen is going to end up on the DL if he doesn't figure out what he's doing at first base.
At least 3X today he almost got run over because he was in the base path catching throws at first. He looks totally clueless. |
20043_stotter
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Post Number: 252
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 8:07 pm: | |
Haven't the Yankees proven that you can't buy a championship? These tiger big hitters have a total of 15 runs in 7 games. So far, this team looks ugly. On sportstalk radio, it was said that no major league team has lost their first 7 games and gone to the playoffs. Also, 82 wins for this team would be considered a disaster. Hope the tigers haven't caught Detoit Lyin'itis. |
Bobj
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Post Number: 4378
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 11:48 pm: | |
OK, I am worried |
Lowell
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Post Number: 4724
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 12:19 am: | |
Well it the overcome the Sports Illustrated curse and win it all, they will have a story to go along with it. |
Smogboy
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Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 1:54 am: | |
So when the Tigers do win a game, will the masses come storming back en masse to the point of toppling the bandwagon? |
Sid
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Post Number: 494
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 2:17 pm: | |
Trying to figure out the mess that is the 08 tigers, I came up with these theories:
1) I think good baseball teams have a good mix of players playing different roles. You might be the single hitting dude, the base stealer, the crazy playmaker, the hothead, the homerun hitter, etc. but good teams have one of each in their starting 9. The tigers have 8 slow but good hit for average guys, very similar in style. They are all apt to be hot and cold in waves and as a collective. Speed can get you out of slumps too, btw.
2) Typically when trades are made, if you trade for a new starting 1st baseman, to upgrade your previous starter, you typically trade or let the old one go. Nobody wants to work at the place where you were replaced by someone to do your job better. So you have Cabrera at 3rd, and you have Inge looking in on every play thinking, I could have done that better. And Renteria at short, and Carlos thinking, I could have done that better. Guillen at 1st and Thames thinking, I could have done that better.
Also - you are counting on people you replaced from their "natural positions" for not being "good enough" to exceed "not being good enough" at new positions. Guillen: Inge: Cabrera. There's a reason Cabrera was in left field for the most part.
3) 4 out of 9 position players are new, for a team that was only 8 games out and went to the world series the year before. Perhaps Skip should have played them more in the spring.
4) The bullpen is worse than last year (and they were bad last year). The two games the tigers have had a chance to be in so far: Game 1 (tied 4:4 in the 10th) and Game 4 (tied 5:5 in the 6th) were lost by the bullpen. No surprise there.
5) Teams know how to defense polanco at the plate now. They are playing softball style defense to protect the holes and bloops.
Thoughts? |
D_mcc
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Post Number: 651
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 2:39 pm: | |
I think granderson Missing is a big part of it. Without that lead off man getting on base allowing for the batters behind him to move him forward it is stalling the offense big time. CG provides a pop in his bat and makes plays happen, once he comes back, I think things will start falling into place. Maybe Bondo will pitch well tonight...who knows...The way I feel...the tigers offense is like a powderkeg...and we keep striking the matches but not getting enough of a spark to set it off. Once we finally do...it will explode...thats just how I feel. |
Flanders_field
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Post Number: 279
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 7:57 pm: | |
Beldar gets his second consecutive error in as many games, after 911 errorless chances.
Was a potential inning ending DP ball that cost two runs. |
20043_stotter
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Post Number: 253
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 8:04 pm: | |
Yikes, 2 to zip, bottom of third. Roar tigers Roar. please? |
Flanders_field
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Post Number: 280
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 8:24 pm: | |
Carlos takes his foot off the bag for another error in game 8, just flat out sloppy baseball being played.
Ex-Tiger Casey gets two hits so far, Tigers team has all of o-n-e!!
1B Casey lucks out...the first base umpire calling Maggs out on a close play, but he was safe, the ball was caught after Maggs touched 1st base. Casey's tip of his shoe also may barely have been in contact with the bag if at all.
Karma... |
Scs100
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 8:33 pm: | |
Hallelujah! They can score! 4-2 after a Renteria double and a Thames home run. |
Flanders_field
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Post Number: 281
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 8:50 pm: | |
WTG Thames!!
Nice try on the sinking liner to deep and far left field as well.
Wow...almost a triple play by the Tigers...when was the last one..1968?? |