Campfire_girl Member Username: Campfire_girl
Post Number: 39 Registered: 03-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 9:56 am: | |
The lace Mantilla DID give one more of a religious presence and a "mature" look ---the Chapel cap - with the obligatory bobby pin to hold it in place - was the most common head covering. Never had to use the Kleenex...except for the cold and flu season, the babushkas on the other hand........ |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 153 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:21 am: | |
Who had relatives that wore the 'Florida' style babushka? You know the one, a map of a state with the name emblazoned down the side, as well as some well-chosen symbols of the state, like cartoon crabs, palm trees, etc. I know we had some in our house. I think I even saw them at weddings. |
Campfire_girl Member Username: Campfire_girl
Post Number: 40 Registered: 03-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 12:55 pm: | |
Hey - I think I have one of those that currently serves as a small tablecloth! Of course, I know the 'Florida' style babushka - what a fashion statement! Never saw them at a wedding - but then anything would go at the VFW! |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 155 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 1:03 pm: | |
Stuffed cabbage, grandma with rolled down support hose on folding chairs and little kids with orange pop stains running around the dance floor. What is the definition of a Polish wedding in the 60's? Please don't get the idea that I'm knockin', I was one of those kids. |
Goblue Member Username: Goblue
Post Number: 1481 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 1:54 pm: | |
I must have attended 500 of those weddings on the Eastside when I was shooting weddings for Fox Portrait Studio on Gratiot. I don't specifically remember being at St. Jude but we had to have been...most were at Assumption Grotto. Yer bringin' back the memories Jcole. |
Zitro Member Username: Zitro
Post Number: 41 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 2:18 pm: | |
I've eaten many a gumpkie at many a Polish wedding. Still one of my favorite dish's to eat with mashed potatoes. I never did care for the texture of the stuffed greed peppers though and I don't remember them having Polish equivalent name. |
Zitro Member Username: Zitro
Post Number: 42 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 2:24 pm: | |
I have to be careful, I promised myself I would never become like my parents and Ward Cleaver talking about the good ole' days and how great things were when I was a kid. Once I see my boys eyes rolling in the back of their head I know it's time to stop. |
7_and_kelly_kid Member Username: 7_and_kelly_kid
Post Number: 120 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 2:29 pm: | |
GOUMKIE!.........just the sound of it!........I can hear the accordian now! |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 158 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 2:39 pm: | |
C'mon guys, your non-polish is showing. It's spelled golabki. I don't think the stuffed peppers had a name either. I don't even think those are necessarily polish. How about Chrusciki(Angel Wings) those lighter than air crisp fried strips of dough with powdered sugar sprinkled on top? Yumm. |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 159 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 2:41 pm: | |
Zitro, I know what you mean. I always hated the good ol' days talk of my parents, but here we are. I guess there's no harm done as long as we keep it to the internet and don't bore the family to death. Although, my daughters are old enough that I catch THEM doing it now. |
Kellyroad Member Username: Kellyroad
Post Number: 329 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 2:47 pm: | |
The discussion about polish weddings got me thinking of the ethnic makeup of the St. Jude community (far northeast side) during the 50-70s...The ethnicity, particular cultural practices and norms seemed rather amalgamated and undistinct as compared to other parishes and communities in Detroit. Many German, Polish, and Italian names but not one distinct underlying theme...the far eastside corner of the city truly was the melting pot post WWII. We all had our own family cultural identities but not one pervasive community identity. |
Campfire_girl Member Username: Campfire_girl
Post Number: 41 Registered: 03-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 3:16 pm: | |
That's very true KellyR. I never thought about that! We sure were lucky to grow up with every nationality - that's probably why we had non-traditional games and special events ---as we had talked about "nickel" in the cupcake, etc., Unless that's an Old Ethnic tradition that I'm not aware of! As far as reminiscing about the "good old days" - okay, it can be an eye-roll, but it can also be a tear-jerker. I'm glad that so many of us have such great memories of growing up and "older" together. With all the moves that the following generations needed to make for job opportunities or "up-sizing", not too many kids can grow up together for as long as we did and enjoy the same "long ago" memories |
Zitro Member Username: Zitro
Post Number: 43 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 3:29 pm: | |
Jcole: Non-Polish?? My grandmother on my mother side name was Kucynski later changed to Cousins. She used to swear at me in Polish. She live in Hamtramck just off Chene where the GM plant stands. Don't let the last name fool you. I've seem gumpkie, goumkie, golabki, spelled so many different ways. All I know is they're still one of my favorite foods in any language. |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 163 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 3:35 pm: | |
Ok, Zitro,don't get excited. I'm sorry I dissed your grandmother. My grandmother on Dad's side was Polish, but I don't remember her well. I had to put up with my Dad swearing at me in Polish, and Mom's parents in Hungarian/German.And, yes, they are the best food with mashed potatoes, and of course, tomato soup gravy. Did your family make them with cooked rice or dry rice mixed into the meat? |
Zitro Member Username: Zitro
Post Number: 44 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 3:50 pm: | |
We used the cooked rice. Some of my relatives (the non-polish ones)used the dry and it didn't seem to have the same texture. |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 165 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 3:54 pm: | |
My mom made the Hungarian version, and used the dry rice. I tried that once with my Polish husband, and never again. He couldn't believe that I would put dry rice in his stuffed cabbage. |
Zitro Member Username: Zitro
Post Number: 45 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 4:09 pm: | |
It all has to do with what you were raised on I guess. That's why I do most of the cooking in my house still. Anyone who had a dad as a fireman was probably used to their dad doing a lot of the cooking because they all took turns at the firehouse. There was a butcher shop on Mack/Chalmers area that used to set aside the better cuts of meat for the firemen. |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 166 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 4:13 pm: | |
My dad never was much of a cook except for breakfast. Must be the difference between cops and firemen. My husband also does most of the cooking. I think the dry rice incident affected him more than he let on. I'm a good cook, but he's better. Also, he enjoys it more. BTW, he's very Polish. Taddeus Markowski. |
Zitro Member Username: Zitro
Post Number: 47 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 4:20 pm: | |
Those kind of things can affect a guys psyche for life don't ya know. |
Campfire_girl Member Username: Campfire_girl
Post Number: 42 Registered: 03-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 5:09 pm: | |
You "blast from the past" gang truly help brighten my work day |
7_and_kelly_kid Member Username: 7_and_kelly_kid
Post Number: 121 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 9:44 pm: | |
Goumkie?..........I can taste the keiska now!....coming from the Cetlinski side of my heretige.............my grandfather was a liet. in Recorders' Court back in the day........my dads' side are all Buffalos........ |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 178 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 9:54 pm: | |
Keiska was not something I have ever been anxious to try, but I do remember the song. Wasn't it a favorite of the Ghoul? The name Cetlinkski is very familiar. I had a neighbor who was a court lieutenant back in the day. His name was Robert David. |
7_and_kelly_kid Member Username: 7_and_kelly_kid
Post Number: 123 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 10:15 pm: | |
well..............my mom grew up on Wilshire and went to St. Juliana....way back in the day! |
Goblue Member Username: Goblue
Post Number: 1496 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:14 pm: | |
Jcole: Wait a minute! "Kleenex popped out of the top of one's shirt"....are you telling me that all of those years ago dating a St. Jude/Regina girl...that it was nothing more than a handful of kleenex and not the real thing? Oh man...memories destroyed! |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 183 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:19 pm: | |
Hey, if you never got the chance to tell the difference first hand (so to speak) what's the problem. You still have your dreams, right? |
Goblue Member Username: Goblue
Post Number: 1498 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:22 pm: | |
Lol...at 15 who knew the difference through a winter coat, sweater, etc...a handful was a handful. Yeah, still have the dreams/memories. |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 186 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:29 pm: | |
Yeah, Michigan winters made it hard to tell, didn't they. |
Goblue Member Username: Goblue
Post Number: 1501 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:32 pm: | |
Ah...but the summers were delightful... especially in the dunes near South Haven in the early 60's. |
Kellyroad Member Username: Kellyroad
Post Number: 334 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:36 pm: | |
Stop! You guys are killing me. lol,lol. |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 187 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:39 pm: | |
The dunes near Caseville were nice too. |