 
D_mcc
Member
Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 699
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 8:55 pm: |    |
I trust you, I am really liking the patience at the plate, especially from Guillen...he has shown some real poise in the box tonight after that 0-12 slump. |
Zitro
Member
Username: Zitro
Post Number: 151
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 8:58 pm: | |
That was a nice at bat after just about breaking his shin with that foul ball |
7andkelly
Member
Username: 7andkelly
Post Number: 212
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 9:40 pm: | |
Nice shot to the opposite field by Cabrera. 12-6...cool. |
Zitro
Member
Username: Zitro
Post Number: 157
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 9:43 pm: | |
Jamey Wrong is all Wright with me |
7andkelly
Member
Username: 7andkelly
Post Number: 213
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 9:50 pm: | |
A fine upstanding citizen! |
Zitro
Member
Username: Zitro
Post Number: 159
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 9:52 pm: | |
Have I said how nice it is to have Grandy back |
D_mcc
Member
Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 700
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 9:52 pm: | |
that fine upstanding citizen is up for the 2nd time in the 6th... |
7andkelly
Member
Username: 7andkelly
Post Number: 214
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 9:53 pm: | |
17-6 now, which is the odds that Miner takes over in the 7th. |
Blksoul_x
Member
Username: Blksoul_x
Post Number: 209
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 9:54 pm: | |
Now, this is what we paid for!
18 runs and counting!
blksoul_atcha! |
Zitro
Member
Username: Zitro
Post Number: 160
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 9:57 pm: | |
My son and I were just joking it's probably safe to bring in Minor or Grilli now |
7andkelly
Member
Username: 7andkelly
Post Number: 215
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:00 pm: | |
It makes more sense to save Lopez for tomorrow, especially since Rapata is used up. |
7andkelly
Member
Username: 7andkelly
Post Number: 216
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:02 pm: | |
Mine has been Woo Hooing since the 2nd inning. |
Zitro
Member
Username: Zitro
Post Number: 161
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:06 pm: | |
It's been a good night Pistons and Tigres win in a romp. I can watch Sport Center tomorrow. |
7andkelly
Member
Username: 7andkelly
Post Number: 217
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:09 pm: | |
I can read the paper, and listen to sports talk radio. |
Focusonthed
Member
Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 1794
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:13 pm: | |
I've never been the biggest fan of Grilli, only because he's so inconsistent, but we have to realize when he's pitching well and not be so hard on him. Boo when he sucks, sure, but look at the stats. As of right now (he's not in tonight yet), his last allowed runs were on April 8. Since then, he has appeared in 4 games, with the following line:
8.1 IP, 3H, 0ER, 3BB, 5K
I could do without the walks, but that's not a bad stretch. Check out the ERAs of some of the bullpen guys:
C. Rapada: 3.2IP, 0.00ERA (before tonight)
A. Lopez: 14.1IP, 0.63ERA
D. Bautista: 9.1IP, 0.96ERA
T. Jones (be still my heart): 8IP, 2.25ERA, 3/3 Svs
If the starters would just wake up, I think between Lopez and Bautista (with Rapada thrown in there for lefties), we might have a good 7-8 combo.
Also, for the stat geeks, interesting who leads the team in K/9: Bobby Seay. |
Zitro
Member
Username: Zitro
Post Number: 162
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:19 pm: | |
Focus: I'm sorry but I'm not buying it. What these stats don't show are how many inherited runners he's let in that don't show up on his ERA? Another walk, this is almost getting painful to watch. I feel sorry for Ron Washington (kinda) |
7andkelly
Member
Username: 7andkelly
Post Number: 218
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:22 pm: | |
I like your stats posting. Been following it closely, and sometimes painfully. My take on the pen is similar to yours, but DLing or releasing Miner now is a no-brainer, and for an upgrade Grilli is off the team too.
We're stuck with our starters for good or bad right now.
If our hitters stay healthy we could see some more productive innings. |
Focusonthed
Member
Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 1795
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:26 pm: | |
Zitro, true...but there couldn't be TOO many, as he's only given up 3 hits and 3 walks in that time.
7andkelly, yeah, obviously you can't work Lopez and Bautista every night (particularly when the starters struggle to go 6), so someone else other than Rapada has to step up their consistency...what happened to Miner? He used to be fairly dependable, if not outstanding. |
Zitro
Member
Username: Zitro
Post Number: 163
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:27 pm: | |
Im surprised to see Lopez get this much work in such a meaningless game |
Zitro
Member
Username: Zitro
Post Number: 164
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:50 pm: | |
Nice stress free win. Not too many of those this year. I'll take it |
Smogboy
Member
Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 7652
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 12:03 am: | |
Focusonthed, great stat work there. I think it is important that we point out some of the good things when guys like Grilli & the bullpen do well. It's always easy to bag on a guy when he's taking the gaspipe; look at how people shredded Todd Jones last year when he'd give up a run or lose the game. But on those occasions where Jones did make a save, he was hardly ever praised.
Again, I'm not above criticizing this team when it falters but let's also be fair when they do well too. We've also got to realize some of the smaller things as opposed to the ESPN moments as well. |
Johnlodge
Member
Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6296
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 8:41 am: | |
The tech team was hard at work trying to get double digits in the scoreboard's run column for the 6th inning. |
Focusonthed
Member
Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 1801
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 1:14 pm: | |
That was awesome when I saw that on Sportscenter. Simiar to high school gym scoreboards commonly not being able to do triple digits, I guess no one planned for double-digit run innings. |
Johnlodge
Member
Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 6302
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 1:21 pm: | |
Rod drew a second "1" on the telestrator to clear things up for us at home.  |
Bragaboutme
Member
Username: Bragaboutme
Post Number: 200
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 4:00 pm: | |
10-13 |
Zitro
Member
Username: Zitro
Post Number: 191
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 4:09 pm: | |
If the Yanks can do it again we'll be in good shape despite the record |
401don
Member
Username: 401don
Post Number: 390
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 4:21 pm: | |
Very strange season. Granderson looks like he hasn't missed a game. Bonderman has poor command again but only gives up 2 hits. If 3 of the 5 starters get consistent with this hitting we'll be in good shape.
Glad to see Germain pitching decent. He may have overcome his "mental" control problems. If he can't stick in that bullpen he never will. |
Zitro
Member
Username: Zitro
Post Number: 192
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 4:26 pm: | |
If Poly can ever get it going who knows what this offense can do. It will be interesting to see how they respond to a top flight pitcher. They sure didn't face any this series. |
Emu_steve
Member
Username: Emu_steve
Post Number: 621
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 12:20 pm: | |
ball is fun in D again.
My biggest problem remains that our thinnest position (pitching, all flavors) is also our thinnest part in the minors.
Despite making several big trades Dombrowski still has a pretty fair amount of infield talent in the minors. That's kind of surprising but Dombrowski has used a lot of high choices for P and infield (P has been largely traded).
Big problem is that pitching is thin both with the Tigers but also down on the farm.
We should see Porcello up with the Tigs in say Aug '09.
Lot of good infield like Sizemore, Iorg, Worth, etc.
Tigs need another great June draft. |
El_jimbo
Member
Username: El_jimbo
Post Number: 651
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 12:53 pm: | |
I'm not worried in the long run about the pitching in the farm system. The Tigers will reload there through the draft.
Keep in mind that there are a few guys on the Tigers roster now that should be in the minors but are filling in for injured pitchers. When Willis, Zumaya, and Rodney comeback, Gallaraga, Rapada, and another pitcher (Bautista?) will head back down to the minors.
In Toledo you have Neal, Cruceta, Ostland, Lambert, Bonine, Fossom, and Larrison who are all under 30 and have started the year with ERAs of 3 or less.
With all the pitchers that were traded in the offseason, it is important for these guys to step up now that they've had a chance to advance in the organization. If they can continue to put up good numbers and improve, The Tigers will once again have a deep organizational pitching staff. |