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Kid_dynamite
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didn't see any UFC threads already here. Anybody else out there that could watch UFC 24 hours/day like me?
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Hagglerock
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Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 1:06 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wanted to put one out a few months ago when the Ortiz vs Shamrock rivalry was going down.

I'm a fan, but wonder how many here on DY are.
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Kid_dynamite
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Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 3:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm guessing that the majority of these quasi "intellectuals" on DY regards the UFC and most other MMA as entertainment they would not lower themselves down to. I could be wrong, though.

Anyways, let me rant about Matt Hughes.
I can't stand this guy now.

I used to think he was the shit. His winning streak, his domination in the sport, his all-American shtick. I wondered why so many of the other fighters hate him.
I watched The Ultimate Fighter last night. He handed out a stack of bibles before training to his team and made everybody read a story in it and have them figure out which character reminded them of him. He had a "Jesus circle" before the actual fight at the end of the show. He was walking around and preaching.
Douche bag. And he's cocky as hell.
He also announced that his time in almost done in the sport.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Hagglerock
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Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 2:04 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"I'm guessing that the majority of these quasi "intellectuals" on DY regards the UFC and most other MMA as entertainment they would not lower themselves down to. I could be wrong, though."


The way I see it, UFC is the new boxing. Boxing lost its glitter and honesty years ago. If you give it a few years I think UFC/MMA will be as big as boxing was in it's heyday. My father, who's in his 60's, loves the Ultimate FIghter and the UFC bouts. To me that shows huge potential.

Wow, I didn't hear that about Hughes. It's too bad. Hughes is my old man's favorite fighter, I wonder if that will change his feelings. :-)

(Message edited by hagglerock on September 30, 2007)
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Defendbrooklyn
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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 10:01 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I love the UFC its a great pure sport. Better than boxing by far!
I have been a UFC fan since #1...The old days were crazy. Does anyone remember the dude who entered the octagon with 1 boxing glove and 1 bare fist? Needless to say he lost quickly.

The UFC has changed dramatically since the early days. At ne time "bar room brawlers" could win now they dont have a chance. Now you have to be versed in all fighting styles win.

I also love the fact that the best boxer in the world would not stand a chance against a avg. ufc guy...
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Kid_dynamite
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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 12:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Defendbrooklyn,

I agree, it's WAY better than boxing. I used to be a huge boxing fan, but no more. It can not compete with level of excitement that is the UFC.

I have watched since UFC #1, too. It is awesome to see how disciplined the sport has evolved into. Remember when there were no weight classes? Those were odd matchups back then.

I don't get that excited for some of the other MMA leagues (IFL, Bodogfight, etc.). I'll watch them sometimes, but there is such an obvious difference in the level of talent compared to the UFC. Pride is the exception. That is usually pretty entertaining.
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Kid_dynamite
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Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 11:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's another fighter I hate: Tim Sylvia.

This giant oaf is so freakin ugly I can't stand looking at him. His body is wierd looking and his fighting style sucks. He's just a big ugly beast.

I think he looks like he should be cooking up crystal meth in a trailer somewhere.

I am glad Randy Couture thumped him, and if he ever gets the heavyweight title back I'll be pissed.
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Lowell
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Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 1:07 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So allow this quasi intellectual to chime in on this topic. As a former high school and university wrestler, [the first time I came to WSU was to wrestle vs WSU in the Old Main gym] it would grate me that boxing was so touted while phony WWF-style wrestling made a mockery out of real wrestling.

Try to throw a punch when your left leg in locked by a figure four and right your arm in a bar arm hold is ready to crack at the elbow, I used to grouse.

So I find UFC, pride fighting, or whatever they call it, dare I say, intellectually interesting - a realistic match of all martial art skills combined.

In my post college year I took up judo for a while. IMO, judo, and more widely jujitsu, is the true predecessor of UFC-style combat sports. One could use anything win.

The bar arm submissions, "flips" and carotid strangles of Olympic style judo, are all merged with boxing, kick boxing and wrestling to create a truly international anything-goes unarmed combat sport. The only rule is that one cannot bring anything more to the match than their body although one can quibble about the mini-gloves and, probably, cups.

To compete, one must know all disciplines. It is a decathlon or sorts. The contestants may be good at all of them, but look awkward compared to the champions of the individual specialities.

This sport has yet to resolve itself. As a result, the matches look ugly, no dancing like a butterfly, more like bar room brawls ground out on the floor amid pools of stale beer and broken glass. But that is the reality.

I will be curious to see if it succeeds. Each martial sport contains very physically damaging even fatal potential. Boxing, brain damage, judo, stroke, wrestling, broken backs...

It seems that, so far, referee TKO's and submissions are preventing this from happening, but sooner or later a 'big story' death will happen and that could lead to business-breaking regulation. Old sports, like boxing and phony wrestling, would have a big interest in that.

They are becoming the horse racing of the casino age and will not be happy about its rise, especially when UFC champions start calling out their champions as the half-combatants or phonies that they are.
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Zephyrprocess
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Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 8:44 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

It is a decathlon o[f] sorts


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when UFC champions start calling out their champions as the half-combatants or phonies that they are


I don't see this. Do decathletes call out champion sprinters or pole vaulters? Do triathletes speak ill of the winners of the Tour de France?
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Kid_dynamite
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Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 8:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone else watch last night?

Rashad Evans vs. Bisbing was pretty even. I think Evans did deserve the decision by a hair, though. It was a good fight.

Thiago Alves impressed me, even though he exposed how completely weak Houston Alexander was on the ground.
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Hagglerock
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Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2007 - 3:48 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought Houston was the next best thing since Rampage Jackson. Gotta admit I was impressed till he fought Silva where he went out in the 1st round. However I was glad to see Bisping lose, I'm still mad about his close "victory" over Hamill a few months ago. Talk about UK/Ireland bias.
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Kid_dynamite
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 9:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any predictions for Serra/Hughes? I want Serra to pound him, but I think the Jesus freak is a lot better.
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Kid_dynamite
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Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 2:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was GREAT to see St. Pierre rock Hughes again 2 weeks ago. The Ice Man had a good fight, too.

The next UFC pay-per-view doesnt look too exciting. BJ Penn is not someone I would ever get too excited about in the Main Event.

(Message edited by kid dynamite on January 10, 2008)
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Defendbrooklyn
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Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 10:43 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BJ is one of my favorite fighters...HE is very good and tough to beat!

Haggle,
"However I was glad to see Bisping lose, I'm still mad about his close "victory" over Hamill a few months ago. Talk about UK/Ireland bias."
Hammel whooped his ass!
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Defendbrooklyn
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Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 10:45 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Henderson v. Silva...
I'm going wih Silva...he is nasty!

THis Sat. the UFC has a great fight card. Kongo, Arlovski, Sanchez, Tanner...

Is Tanner going to make a comeback? I think he will beat the guy he is matched up with.
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D_mcc
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Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

DB...I think you might be overlooking Dan Henderson...I hope Tanner wins again...I always liked goofy ass Evan...I HATE Diego though...
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Defendbrooklyn
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Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 11:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Henderson is a beast but i'm not overlooking him...Silva is that good.

The mighty Evan took a shot to the head and fell.
All in all good UFC. I did not get to see Arlovsky...Did he look good.

Side note- Silva made $170,000 for his win
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D_mcc
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Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 12:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didn't see Andrei either, I thought he might be on the undercard...or maybe he didn't fight at all, seems like he would be a fighter that would be in a televised match rather than an unaired undercard.

The henderson/silva fight was good. I was hopeful after that first round that maybe Silva finally met his match.

I think the next big middleweight fight will be Franklin/Henderson for the next shot at Silva...or maybe Franklin and that Japanese guy that beat tanner.

I was happy to see Heath Herring preform well. He looked in very good shape, and he and Kongo were moving more like Middleweights than Heavyweights.
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Defendbrooklyn
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Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 1:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okami is the japanese guy...That is the next match for him...I dont see Franklin wanting any part of Silva...Silva hurt him bad in two fights...
Okami is a monster...I thought Tanner was big but Okami makes Tanner look like a pee wee fighter. Silva will beat Okami but at least he has a punchers chance.
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D_mcc
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Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 2:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats what I thought about Henderson.

I hate to say it, but I think Dana needs to give Jayson Miller a call. If he wants to actually see what happens if Silva goes past the second round, he should bring in Miller.

Mayhem doesn't tap, he can strike, good cardio, solid grappling and submissions...hes a nut job, but GSP couldn't tap him OR knock him out...

I mean, he looked so skinny fighting at 170...he normally fights at 185...so hey...why not???
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Defendbrooklyn
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Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 2:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dont know about Miller...He sounds like a beast. I'm sure he will eventually end up in the UFC...Fighter go were the money is at and the UFC is bringing in the $.
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Defendbrooklyn
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Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 2:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mayhem does not tap? Do people get bones broke?
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Defendbrooklyn
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Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 2:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oops...I thought Mayhem was a league...

I'm sure they will cross paths. Mayhem lost to Trigg and took GSP to decision....MMA is crazy!
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Kid_dynamite
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Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 4:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

crap..I had to miss the fights on saturday. I can't believe Kongo lost to that big redneck, especially after I saw what Kongo did to Crop Cop.

Speaking of which, Cro Cop had to be the biggest disappointment in the UFC in a long time.

Fave fighter right now= Thiago Silva...what a psycho!
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Defendbrooklyn
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Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 10:05 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there are so many new fighters entering the UFC its hard to keep up with all of them...The name Thiago sounds familiar...Who has heat beat!
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D_mcc
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Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 10:45 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heres a little more on Jason:

Name Jason Miller
Nick Name Mayhem
Record 20 - 5 - 0 (Win - Loss - Draw)
Wins 3 (T)KOs (15.00%)
12 Submissions (60.00%)
4 Decisions (20.00%)
1 Other (5.00%)
Losses 1 (T)KOs (20.00%)
1 Submissions (20.00%)
3 Decisions (60.00%)

Association Team Mayhem Miller
Height 6'1 (185cm)
Weight 185lbs (84kg)
Birth Date 12-24-1980
City Las Vegas
State Nevada
Country USA

Wins over Lawler, wow...he Beat Denis Kang...who is considered one of the best in his weight class...I think Dana needs to revaluate Miller...

I do NOT like Thiago Alves...by the way...Jon Fitch...thats a fighter
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Kid_dynamite
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Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:18 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not Thiago Alves, I said Thiago Silva. Not even close between them. He is the guy the destroyed Houston Alexander. He always makes a gesture like he is slicing his throat after his vicious victories. Watch out for him, I think he could take out Rampage Jackson for the Light Heavyweight belt.

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?f a=fighter.detail&pid=634
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D_mcc
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Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:32 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh yeah...I know who you are talking about...I think rampage would crush him. People seem to over look how good rampage is. Houston is a tit bit overrated in my eyes...once he takes down a Forrest, or Jardine...I'll start thinking he could take down Quentin
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_sj_
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Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 1:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didn't Houston KO Jardine in his fisrt UFC fight?
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Kid_dynamite
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Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 9:01 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, but he was exposed by Thiago Silva in the next fight as being a one trick pony. All Houston Alexander knows how to do is punch, he has zero ground and submission game. Silva destroyed him.