  Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 1737 Registered: 11-2005 |
http://tinyurl.com/cgw637 Guess the business owner was pissed off for having his building pissed on. | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 2014 Registered: 08-2006 |
Better not let the Suburban Woodward business owners catch wind of this. Ever see the back lots the day after the Dream Cruise? | ||
Cheddar_bob Member Username: Cheddar_bob Post Number: 1784 Registered: 10-2003 |
Patrick? | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5282 Registered: 06-2004 |
hey, if you want to clean up the city... | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 1738 Registered: 11-2005 |
... sometimes you've gotta cap a bitch? | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5287 Registered: 06-2004 |
You have no idea how many times I would have liked to when I see people throw trash out their car windows. If there isn't more to this story, though, based on what the store owners' neighbors say, then he must have had a really, really, really bad day. | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 1740 Registered: 11-2005 |
"You have no idea how many times I would have liked to when I see people throw trash out their car windows. " YES! I was thinking the SAME THING TODAY as I drove to Honeybee behind a delivery truck and saw him whip his coffee cup out onto the road. Grrrrrrrrr! I honked at him, but I doubt he understand why I was flipping his trash-tossin' ass off. You have no idea how many empty 25-cent chip bags and non-refundable juice bottles I have to pick up on my street. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 9016 Registered: 12-2003 |
I've been thinking the same with JAY-WALKERS lately... | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 2439 Registered: 10-2003 |
hehehe nope, not me... | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 6707 Registered: 11-2004 |
There's more coming out about this case. I'm curious as to more details as all of the business owner's neighbors seemed to be pretty shocked by his actions. | ||
Dieseldog Member Username: Dieseldog Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2004 |
The elementary school across the street from me has been an irritation to the entire street. Every school day new garbage appears in the street and the yards across from the building. Chip bags, juice containers and homework. Last year they put two garbage cans outside the doors. This changed nothing. Its almost enough to make you go Postal. | ||
Robtruth Member Username: Robtruth Post Number: 33 Registered: 03-2006 |
I read on the Freep that after he got a ticket for driving on a suspended license, the police offered him and the wife a ride home. He declined the offer. I dont know all the details, but if my wife and I were offered a ride home on a cold Detroit night in February, I think we would take it. Then I heard on the radio the owner asked for his employee to go get his gun ( assuming the widow said this) well after he finished urinating why didnt he walk (or run)? Something isn't right with this story. And if you have to urinate outside why on someone's wall instead of the ground where good ol' rainwater will wash it away? Why do people insist on a painting a piss picture? | ||
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie Post Number: 1181 Registered: 11-2003 |
I'm amazed that not one person yet has actually called out the store owner for what that shooting was: an unforgiveable, despicable act. I don't care if the guy pissed on the building every day for a month. That doesn't excuse murdering him. Shooting might have been justified if the guy broke in, but there hasn't been any evidence given to us yet that he did. Lilpup, Rhymeswithrawk and others: have some damned consideration for human life. | ||
Daddeeo Member Username: Daddeeo Post Number: 466 Registered: 09-2008 |
Guys acting like a bunch of animals ..all around. Something besides the fish stinks here. | ||
Choquant Member Username: Choquant Post Number: 21 Registered: 09-2007 |
Uhh.. Burnsie? I think they may have been demonstrating a little concept we like to call sarcasm. No one thinks that shooting someone for pissing on a building is acceptable. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9454 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote:  Is this your homework Larry? IS THIS YOUR HOMEWORK? | ||
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie Post Number: 1182 Registered: 11-2003 |
Choquant-- I know what sarcasm is. Sorry, but this story just disgusted me so much that I don't feel like listening to others make a joke about it, whether they mean it or not. | ||
Ferntruth Member Username: Ferntruth Post Number: 749 Registered: 11-2006 |
"Choquant-- I know what sarcasm is. Sorry, but this story just disgusted me so much that I don't feel like listening to others make a joke about it, whether they mean it or not." You have the right to not read the thread, exercise it. | ||
Dieseldog Member Username: Dieseldog Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2004 |
Thanks Johnlodge this thread needed that. But seriously the point I was trying to make was that after putting up with the same crap from people day in and day out could cause a person to snap. This was probably not a random act of violence. Getting shot for your $200 dollar shoes is but I don't believe that just a single act of peeing on the mans building was the only provocation. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5292 Registered: 06-2004 |
updated with more information How can someone on probation for assault with a dangerous weapon 1)be driving after having his license expire over 10 years ago, have his car impounded when busted for the infraction, but he not be arrested and 2)be employed as a janitor in a public elementary school?? http://freep.com/article/20090 219/NEWS01/90219031/Widow+spea ks+out+on+man+s+killing+after+ public+urination | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 2389 Registered: 08-2007 |
this guy? http://www.state.mi.us/mdoc/as p/otis2profile.asp?mdocNumber= 700403 5 foot 8, 250 pounds. How big is Mr Moon? hmmm,... This whole story is wacky. Why are you riding around on a flat? Why did the cops tow the car? What else was going on with the car or the Johnson couple that would make the cops impound the vehicle? To me, if I was Shawn Johnson I'd be peeved that 1, my car had a flat 2, that the cops towed my hooptie and that I was now without wheels. In fact, I'd be downright grumpy. Then when I'm taking a leak, some Asian guy is getting all up in my face. I certainly would not have been in the mindset of begging forgiveness from Mr. Moon. In fact, I'd be so mad I might just want to teach Mr. Moon a lesson in minding his own business. But that's just me. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5293 Registered: 06-2004 |
a mere six months after pleading and he couldn't keep himself out of trouble he was driving without a license (expired in 1998) - she probably doesn't have one either (or wasn't sober), thus the tow yet this guy has a job when a lot of felony free folks don't | ||
Eastburn Member Username: Eastburn Post Number: 686 Registered: 03-2008 |
Gnome, Mr. Moon doesn't appear to be Asian. I don't see any racial angle in this one. | ||
Dissolvedgirl3 Member Username: Dissolvedgirl3 Post Number: 18 Registered: 09-2007 |
"Pilar?" Oh God, I laughed out loud at the Big Lebowski reference:-) | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 2391 Registered: 08-2007 |
Eastburn, I haven't seen a pic of the guy, I jumped to contusions when I read the name Moon and the name of his business, Asian Fish Market. I should not have made such assumptions; thanx Eastburn, for straightening me out. | ||
Eastburn Member Username: Eastburn Post Number: 688 Registered: 03-2008 |
De nada. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4147 Registered: 10-2003 |
I don't care about Mr. Johnson's past. It is no relevance to him being murdered by some disgruntled fish shop worker. As far as I'm concerned, that Mr. Moon is being charged with 1st degree murder tells me the prosecutors think this is opened and shut. Prosecutors usually go for a lesser sentence to make sure they nail a suspect. That they believe they can nail this guy for the highest degree of murder is really all that I need to know. I don't care if Mr. Johnson had a prior record, or if he should or shouldn't have taken the DPD ride back home. Mr. Moon murdered this man in cold blood. | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 899 Registered: 04-2005 |
quote: awesome!!!!!!!!! | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5296 Registered: 06-2004 |
quote:It is if he should have been arrested for probation violation instead of being allowed to walk home. | ||
Diehard Member Username: Diehard Post Number: 669 Registered: 03-2005 |
I have to agree with some of the earlier posts - there must be more to this story than what's being reported. | ||
Mackenzie68 Member Username: Mackenzie68 Post Number: 94 Registered: 03-2008 |
Yup, much as I decry the loss of a human life, something is fishy with this. | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 586 Registered: 02-2006 |
Looking at his record I would also like to jump to contusions and assume something else was going down. I guess the silver lining in all of this is that the shooter was black. So we can take race out of the equation for once around here. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4151 Registered: 10-2003 |
Jumping to contusions sounds quite painful and dangerous. I wouldn't trust a person that jumped to contusions. They may still have open head wounds; they probably aren't thinking straight. Lilpup, Whether he should or shouldn't have been out of probation is no fault of his own, and neither was him being murdered. It's a red herring, and you know it. He either deserved to be murdered or he didn't. Choose a side and stop the distraction tactics. (Message edited by lmichigan on February 20, 2009) | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 9029 Registered: 12-2003 |
Marlon, his attorney, is an old neighbor of mine. Good guy, he doesn't take cases he doesn't believe in...I'd bet there is more to this story. I wonder if he was on any serotonin-reuptake-inhibitors or other form of psychotropic. They often reduce or eliminate a person's grasp on consequences, or care to weigh good and bad. Lotsa people doing things they otherwise wouldn't, in these unbelievably unpredictable times. Too much stress, fear, and uncertainty. Not a good equation to add them all...stress might be a multiplier. Jumping to contusions? That's funny. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5297 Registered: 06-2004 |
Lmichigan, if police protocol is to arrest probation violators then DPD is negligently contributory to his death. | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 2392 Registered: 08-2007 |
With open head wound and all, this is my theriman: All 250 pounds of Mr. Johnson came at 69 year old Moon filled with the combined anger of having his hooptie impounded and being dissed by an admonishing Moon. Mr. Johnson was going to teach Moon some manners, and when he came at Moon ... BOOM, BOOM, BOOM! As far as first degree...either Moon confessed to a completely different scenerio or Ms. Worthy is overcharging for political purposes. I haven't read the indictment, but first-degree is tough to prove. You have to prove that Mr Moon intended to kill Johnson. Not protect himself. Not wound to halt. No, Moon intended and planned to take Mr. Johnson's life. All it will take is a single juror to be convinced that Moon was simply afraid of the repeat violent felon Johnson. Mrs. Johnson reminds me of MonCon, with a fake gold tooth. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 1246 Registered: 05-2006 |
My question is since this Johnson is a convicted felon, why was he working in a school, of all places? It's not sound policy to employ someone who was convicted of assult where children are. This man could have been a loose cannon and, maybe when the whole story comes out we'll see that he threatened Mr. Moons in some way. I suspect Ms. Johnson is not exactly an impartial witness. (Message edited by detroitej72 on February 23, 2009) | ||
Chiclette Member Username: Chiclette Post Number: 27 Registered: 02-2009 |
321brian, the shooter was black? I thought he was Asian? | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 597 Registered: 02-2006 |
Why would you automatically think that? | ||
Eastsideal Member Username: Eastsideal Post Number: 350 Registered: 10-2007 |
I think a number of people carried away that impression from the fact that the man's name is Moon and his store is called "Asian Fish Market." It's an incorrect inference, but certainly not an unreasonable one. | ||
Chiclette Member Username: Chiclette Post Number: 29 Registered: 02-2009 |
Oh good. The shooter will get a fair trial then, being in Detroit. I think there is more to this story also. LOL 321brian | ||
Duke_sims Member Username: Duke_sims Post Number: 119 Registered: 05-2008 |
The Free Press jumped the gun by reporting that this man was shot because he was peeing on the back of the man's business. According to the cops, the only person telling this story was the victim's wife. Do you think if, say, this guy were trying to rob the fish market, his wife would tell the cops that? With the shooting victim, we're talking about a guy with a criminal history of assaultive behavior. Meanwhile, the store owner has a history of being friendly with people in the neighborhood, even giving away food to the homeless. Also, all the business owners in the area have said the story doesn't make sense; people piss on buildings all the time around there, they insist, and it's unlikely someone would all of a sudden get so mad about it they'd shoot them. I realize it makes for a better story to say the man was shot for pissing on a building, but there are very real reasons to doubt that's what really happened. | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 1251 Registered: 10-2003 |
"I guess the silver lining in all of this is that the shooter was black. So we can take race out of the equation for once around here." Unless of course it was election time, (or in the Asian vernacular "erection time"), then you would have to ask, how black was he? and was he black enough? | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 2472 Registered: 08-2007 |
UPDATE: http://www.freep.com/article/2 0090309/NEWS01/90309023/Victim +in+urination+shooting+was+dru nk++medical+exam+shows quote: Here is the OTIS file for the aggrieved Ms. Bryant: http://www.state.mi.us/mdoc/as p/otis2profile.asp?mdocNumber= 621362 From reading the article, I did not realise that Mr. Johnson was urinating in the doorway of Mr. Moon's fish place. The crack reportage doesn't say whether it was the front, side or back door. Personally, I get grumpy whenever anyone urinates in my doorway, but that's just me. |
