  Tkierpiec Member Username: Tkierpiec Post Number: 181 Registered: 03-2007 |
I haven't seen this mentioned here - I looked first so that I don't duplicate an existing thread, sorry if I missed it. This article was in Rolling Stone magazine last week. Here is the link to read it online: http://www.rollingstone.com/ne ws/story/26217951/motor_city_b reakdown Thought some of you may be interested in reading it. | ||
Daddeeo Member Username: Daddeeo Post Number: 533 Registered: 09-2008 |
Kind of depressing but true. | ||
Drankin21 Member Username: Drankin21 Post Number: 300 Registered: 12-2003 |
blah blah blah people mover sucks blah blah blah abandoned buildings blah blah blah icy winds | ||
Eastsidedame Member Username: Eastsidedame Post Number: 675 Registered: 12-2006 |
Jeez, when the media gets it's jaws clamped onto something, they won't let go. No wonder Brian Williams asked for good news. I'm sure there's plenty of positive stories in Detroit; but not sensational enough to make money. The greats never read their bad reviews. Why should we? | ||
Detroit_expat Member Username: Detroit_expat Post Number: 92 Registered: 10-2003 |
The greats never read their bad reviews. Why should we? Because Detroit ain't great -- not even close. A little shame would go a long way in Detroit. Especially for City Council. "Say Nice Things About Detroit" never worked, and it's not going to. The time for happy words and "lifting Detroit in prayer" is over. It's time to do some work. Or not, and let the shame continue. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5385 Registered: 06-2004 |
Anyone who tries to impose "shame" on others holds no water. Notice that the article's author is an ex-pat from St. Clair Shores. Begone before a house falls on you, too! | ||
Cub Member Username: Cub Post Number: 1146 Registered: 02-2007 |
We can still pray and do some work!  | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 3848 Registered: 04-2006 |
Because Detroit ain't great -- not even close. A little shame would go a long way in Detroit. Especially for City Council. There ain't many cities on the planet, and certainly no others in the state of Michigan, that have the notoriety of Detroit. I'd say that is pretty great. | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2926 Registered: 08-2007 |
I read that article and it was very depressing. That writer put a negative outlook on absolutely everything. To him, even the electric car exhibit was depressing and foreboding. It was like reading Wuthering Heights or some other gloomy gothic novel. All we need is a desperate heroine to be rescued by that macho Ford truck model he talked about. | ||
Purpleheart Member Username: Purpleheart Post Number: 72 Registered: 01-2009 |
Funny about the author who is self described as growing up in the 80's and writes for "Rolling Stone" he can’t think of anything in his childhood except “White Flight?” Never was around when J. Giels proclaimed in the Cinderella Ballroom... “Motor City Breakdown.” Or When Edgar Winter and Johnnie Winter almost brought down the Masonic Temple roof. How about the almost weekly performances of greats like Seger, Procal Harem, and yes even the many concerts of "The Rolling Stones when they played Cobo the cops blocked off the entrance in front using the Ponch as the corner block on account of the many thousands who would show up with no tickets and would demand to get in. How about the yearly "New Years Eve- Whiplash Bash by the Motor City madman himself Ted Nugent. And not to mention the numerous make shift concerts in any of the many parking lots on Belle Isle in the summertime. One could drive from one lot to the next and stay for a while and if they didn't like the music there move on to another. Well I was there in 1972 when J. Giels proclaimed "Motor City Breakdown" and it wasn't because anything was breaking down, it was a reference to the concert a few months ago when the Winters Brothers almost brought down the Masonic. I was there too! In fact for everything outlined above I was present and accounted for. Because this was my city of which I was proud to have been her son. I was gigging at the old J. C.'s Rock Salon when Mick and company stopped (after one of their sold out nights at Cobo) in to hear a set by Mitch Rider and The Detroit Wheels. We were the first group that night and spotted the Wheels our equipment and when Mick and a few of the Stones wanted to play a set for Detroit personally all in attendance were shocked. So there are many more stories to tell about Detroit but the powers that be continue to ride the "smear train." Which I guess is easier to write than do some original research and put something good down. It is always easy to play to the crowd and during this time the crowd is shouting and putting their thumbs down on us. We'll it's all a bunch of trash and we don't have to take it anymore! Speak up Detroit, because nobody else is going to do it! We have to do it! Dutch | ||
Scooter2k7 Member Username: Scooter2k7 Post Number: 221 Registered: 10-2007 |
"When I moved away and bought a used Corolla," I think he discredits himself right here. If you grew up in Detroit you know not to buy a foreign car, even if it is used. He does not have the right understanding of the auto industry because his family wasn't connected to it. My family was, the auto industry put food on my table, clothes on back, a roof over my head, and through 4 years of college. He doesn't get it. | ||
Ggores Member Username: Ggores Post Number: 557 Registered: 10-2007 |
"I haven't seen this mentioned here" uhhhh, yeah. Let's not mention it again :-) | ||
Blessyouboys Member Username: Blessyouboys Post Number: 386 Registered: 07-2005 |
I'll be the difference maker and appreciate your post -- good, non-bullshit read. Thanks. | ||
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox Post Number: 1293 Registered: 04-2006 |
quote:I wonder what else he got wrong. | ||
Cpalk Member Username: Cpalk Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2009 |
"eventually shifting to fighter jets during World War II"....fighter jets???? in WWII??? The German Luftwaffe used "jet" technology at end of WWII. But the US didn't even begin producing jet powered aircraft until after the war, and the F-86 Sabre didn't see action until Korea. Mr. Binelli needs to mix in a history class. | ||
Tkierpiec Member Username: Tkierpiec Post Number: 183 Registered: 03-2007 |
Okay, Ggores. I'll be sure to only post links to positive fluff pieces from now on. I didn't give any opinion about the writer's perspective, by the way. I don't agree with him at all. However, I do like to read anything and everything that is written about Detroit. Good & bad. I find it interesting how others perceive us, even those who are supposed to BE us, or were at one point. | ||
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox Post Number: 1296 Registered: 04-2006 |
I can't speak for Ggores, but this article is one of twenty million near-identical "look what a mess Detroit is" articles, in which the author, in his/her eagerness to sell more magazines/newspapers/online ad space by sensationalizing our plight, can't even be bothered to get the facts straight. I don't see why it is useful, or necessary, to plow through every one of these that comes out, or to endlessly dissect them and bitch and moan about how everybody hates us. Those of us who live here know exactly how bad it is, and how bad it isn't. Descriptions of things like the Packard plant and MCS might be of interest to people who have never been here, but not to those of us who see them in person every day of our lives. We already know what they look like. If you enjoy reading articles like this, for whatever reason, that is up to you. If you want to post them here, for whatever reason, that is also up to you. However, I don't think accusing Ggores of only wanting to see "positive fluff pieces" is necessarily warranted. | ||
Tkierpiec Member Username: Tkierpiec Post Number: 184 Registered: 03-2007 |
I didn't say I enjoyed reading the article. I like to read everything I find written about Detroit. Not everything written is enjoyable, obviously. I was simply sharing a link. Those who wish to read it, fine. Those who don't, fine. Those who want to bitch about it one way or another, that's fine, too, I suppose. Carry on. | ||
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox Post Number: 1298 Registered: 04-2006 |
quote:Much appreciated. As long as nobody infringes on my right to bitch, I'm happy. | ||
Exwarrendaler Member Username: Exwarrendaler Post Number: 8 Registered: 04-2007 |
Hold on to all of your great memories, I have mine too, but those days are long gone. Nothing will change until we decide to change it. | ||
Purpleheart Member Username: Purpleheart Post Number: 74 Registered: 01-2009 |
The point I was trying to make was not about memories, it was about "Rolling Stone" a supposed rock journalistic rag attempting to report on those things which they no idea. One of my other pet pev's is the so called "Rolling Stone" reporter who was imbedded with my former unit in the latest invasion of Iraq. His fantasy piece wound up being the script of "Generation Kill" an awful look into the lives of our young men in this battle, an HBO original movie (series.) It was not only wrong in almost every component but sensationalized fictional aspects of certain stereotypes the general population has with our armed forces. Believe me I know almost every team in 1st Force Recon because I either trained them or fought with them, officer and enlisted alike. So when I mentioned my personal history with Detroit, and it's rock and roll roots, it was an attempt to show that even in this publications specialty they can't even get that right! | ||
Ggores Member Username: Ggores Post Number: 558 Registered: 10-2007 |
aw, Tkierpierc, I wasn't doggin' you, just being a little toungue-in-cheek. Further explanations will come up whenever I'm not busting my tail 12 hours a day and am a bit winded by the time I get around to writing posts here. |
