  Daddeeo Member Username: Daddeeo Post Number: 527 Registered: 09-2008 |
I think she hears voices..from far away. | |||
Buyamerican Member Username: Buyamerican Post Number: 932 Registered: 02-2007 |
I can't imagine what the City of Detroit employees are thinking right now. 99.9% of them are hard working people just trying to make ends meet and to have the clowns who are members of council represent their employer is a shame. Conyers wants total control of the City, and she wants it to be black control...no white suburbanites or whites from Lansing, or even whites who reside in Detroit are allowed to come in and offer assistance, money, advice or help of any kind. Does anyone see that those who have been controlling the City have not done a good or even adequate job? It's time for some changes and if that means that Conyers is ousted by some knowledgeable white person, so be it. I'm tired of listening to her diatribes about white people, her hatred for whites is obvious; her hatred for men is obvious. My God, if this were reversed there would be riots for sure. Where is the outcry from whites who have been insulted by this foul woman? She's crazy and she is leading Detroit further down the path of total destruction. Please John Conyers, if you have any cojones, come out of the closet, put some duct tape over your wifes mouth and lock HER in the closet. | |||
Samjkra Member Username: Samjkra Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2009 |
Separation of church and state ring any bells? | |||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 821 Registered: 11-2003 |
The council is gearing up for a regional war that does not even exist. The whole point of the plan was to create a better COBO and help make the city a better place. These people are crazy, why would anyone want to deal with them? | |||
Novine Member Username: Novine Post Number: 1201 Registered: 07-2007 |
"Where is the outcry from whites who have been insulted by this foul woman? She's crazy..." Didn't you answer your own question right there? Crazy people say crazy things. Responding to them is pointless because they aren't thinking rationally or logically. | |||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 1392 Registered: 11-2003 |
Without conflict these people have no power. The idea of co-operation (I don't believe the "coming together," we're not there yet) and blacks actually BEING in power scares the shit out of these wolf-crying folk because that means divisiveness won't work as well. This isn't about the people - it never has. It's about power (by the way, it works that way in the white suburbs, too - it's human nature to grab onto power and to shun the people who are gaining power). Easiest way to gain votes in the suburbs is STILL to go around stumping about how much "they" ruin everything. Until which time there is a resounding voice on both sides (coming in the next two election cycles as some of the younger generations become politically aware) to cast away these shackles that both sides hold each other in, expect more of the same. The only difference being is that in Oakland County they pander to the racists with money, while in Detroit, they're broke as hell. (I'll never forget the dinner I was at, lots of business folks, and they're talking about lynching Obama. So yes, that racism is SURELY there, BRC isn't dreaming it up, she's just handling it wrong). | |||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9560 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: That's exactly what she would like. So, no thanks. Best way to deal with a racist is to give them no attention. | |||
Detourdetroit Member Username: Detourdetroit Post Number: 360 Registered: 10-2003 |
i think there's a lot of truth there DV. it's as ignorant and unproductive to pretend there's no more racism. we ALL have to be mindful of the legacies of this nation's original sin. but we should also be aware that moving toward a more equitable future requires the spirit of conciliation and cooperation and the awareness that nobody's face--white, black or blue or green--looks quite comely without a nose... | |||
Motownmark04 Member Username: Motownmark04 Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2006 |
I'm so very glad that Barbara Rose-Collins led a rousing rendition of "Onward, Christian Soldiers." When I think of soldiers of Jesus Christ, the Detroit City Council is the first group of people that comes to mind. In the future, we can look forward to Rose-Collins collaborating with fellow councilwoman Martha Reeves on the new hits "(The Suburbs Are Treating Us) Like Some Beat Slaves" and "Lansing Wants Our Seats." I wish that idea made me a bigot and untrue. But Rose-Collins, in the past, has alluded to all of this. | |||
Eastsideal Member Username: Eastsideal Post Number: 380 Registered: 10-2007 |
Well, I finally saw it, and I must say that I'm aghast. Barbara-Rose, who was always borderline in my view (when I worked as Council research staff back during her first go-round there she used to send up some of the most insane requests) has really gone off the deep end now. The anti-colonialism rant was pure Jaramogi (Rev. Albert Cleage) Shrine stuff, but the delivery - complete with sing-along - was vintage Barbara-Rose. Perhaps she had been at the bar a little long, but that's being charitable, which I'm in no mood to be with these fools. I'm hoping that this will go even further towards discrediting them. However, I must also say that I'm almost as aghast at the behavior and statements of some people here, and pretty steamed about them. One of the reasons I left this board before was that it seemed to me that this place that Lowell had put together with the intention of giving people a place to discuss Detroit had instead become a platform for some people's seemingly endless anti-Detroit invective, much of which took on an uncomfortable racial tone. But that's when I was gone from this place, now that I'm back I can't help but care and participate. So, here we go again with the "leave Detroit to rot" crap. And I must say that I'm again thoroughly disgusted by it. It's amazing to me how little it takes for some of you suburbanites, people who don't even live in this city, to show your true colors. It's no wonder the region is still bound up in the resentments of the past, and people in the city have no trust at all in suburbanites ability to treat them fairly, since when an incident like this arises those same suburbanites are happy to turn on us immediately and trash hundreds of thousands of people (people who collectively aren't like them, is my best guess as to their line of thinking) over the actions of 4. At this moment I'd really just like to say a BIG f-u to all of you here who would throw a city that still has 800,000+ people living in it, and was the progenitor of this entire region, under the bus during the hardest of hard times just because of some batshit nuts politicians. This would be like me renouncing my citizenship because of the 8 years we just had to suffer through under idiot George and crazy evil Dick, who not only ruined this country and its reputation, but are responsible for thousands and thousands of deaths halfway around the world. The adventures of crazy Monica really pale in comparison. Lest we forget, Monica and her crew of nuts seem to have lost this particular battle. Monica couldn't even get the other 5 councilmembers to show up for her little party, and couldn't override anything. If Cockrel wins the election they will be disarmed, and much more so if we can vote in some new council blood and support those who've showed some sense (like Kenyatta and Sheila C.) in November. Certainly Barbara-Rose's tacit endorsement of Bing in the middle of her rant left me no doubt who I'm voting for. (Message edited by eastsideal on March 06, 2009) | |||
Novine Member Username: Novine Post Number: 1203 Registered: 07-2007 |
Eastsideal, I know that there are people here and in the suburbs who don't care a whit about Detroit and who delight in getting an excuse for another round of Detroit bashing. But I also think there's a good number of people who to varying degrees have been pulling for Detroit who see this latest blow-up as the straw that's broken the camel's back. It's not about Cobo, it's about an attitude of entitlement and resentment and unwillingness to see that moving forward requires everyone to compromise. There's no indication that Monica and Co. have any grasp on the reality of their position or just how difficult it was to get the current proposal for Cobo to the table. Look how long it's taken to get transit back into play after Engler blew up the last transit proposal at the end of his final turn. These deals don't happen over night and it could be years or never before another deal happens. I agree with you that the actions of a few shouldn't reflect on the whole. No matter what Monica and Co. do, I'm not going to turn my back on Detroit. But I think a number of people have reached the point where there's enough problems going on in their own communities that they don't have the time or patience for these kinds of battles. I'm not ready to write off Detroit. But until there's some sign of sanity at the Council level, it's pointless to continue to try and work towards solution when you have people actively working against those ends. | |||
Kryptonite Member Username: Kryptonite Post Number: 97 Registered: 11-2008 |
I lived in Nashville, TN for five years. There are 41 council members in their Metro government. I was amazed at how little fighting occurred and how the body works together to move the city forward. After living in Detroit for about 15 years I gave up on city council ever working as a legislstive body to advance Detroit. As a rule they are a disgraceful bunch of self-promoters with god only knows what as their agenda. It sure is not to work in the interests of the city. | |||
Detourdetroit Member Username: Detourdetroit Post Number: 362 Registered: 10-2003 |
what's that you say about your commie metro government working to move the city forward??? nashville, tn. is that on the planet krypton? ;) | |||
Bobl Member Username: Bobl Post Number: 611 Registered: 07-2008 |
Just got the phone call I feared. My son tells me that the local TV news in Las Vegas featured 10 seconds of BRC's performance. His question? "Isn't that the same lady who wears a tiara?" Our reputation continues to impress.... | |||
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd Post Number: 3607 Registered: 07-2004 |
My dream? Detroit voters turn up their noses and give the "harumph" to these clowns. I give up. I'm finally ready and willing to register in Detroit, no matter what it means to the insurance bill! | |||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 1393 Registered: 11-2003 |
I would be highly surprised if Jon Stewart DOESN'T run with this next week. There's so much online to poke fun at, and probably even bring in his "Senior Black Correspondent." | |||
Eastsideal Member Username: Eastsideal Post Number: 381 Registered: 10-2007 |
quote: Well, again, Monica and Barbara-Rose ranted, but they lost. The Cobo deal is almost certainly the right thing to do for the city, particularly under the current economic circumstances. But if folks out there don't understand why many Detroiters have deep trepidation about the deal, its terms, and what it represents, then they haven't been paying much attention to local history - or have a very different understanding of it than I do. A "no" vote, while not the course I would have chosen, was not necessarily "racist" or insane, but MC and BRC certainly made it seem so. I only wish that everyone involved had chosen to express those reservations with some semblance of sense and decorum, and some notion of what's really at stake here, as was done by K. Cockrel and K. Kenyatta, rather than using it as a kind of crazy grandstand play. Whatever the status of the deal itself, though, and the media feeding off of Monica's little circus, it is nice that sanity seems to have finally prevailed. We should keep that in mind. | |||
Retroit Member Username: Retroit Post Number: 999 Registered: 04-2008 |
I think I actually agree with MonCon & BRC to some degree, sad to admit. The people of Detroit don't need Cobo, and they don't need casinos, sports stadia, hotels, etc. They need what the suburbs have: good residential areas. Naysayers will argue, saying Detroit or southeast Michigan can not survive without a thriving downtown, but the truth is that Detroit can not survive without thriving residential areas. Let the rich, white, cosmopolitan sophisticates build their pleasure palaces out in the burbs, and let the poor people of Detroit get their neighborhoods back on track toward some semblance of viable habitation. To address this from a racial perspective: White people have to come to grips with the fact that the City of Detroit is no longer a white city and therefore should not cater to the fantastical desires of white people. Detroit belongs to poor black people and it should focus on meeting their much more humble needs. BTW, I am not being sarcastic. I am a white suburbanite and I really do care about Detroit and its citizens. | |||
Ferntruth Member Username: Ferntruth Post Number: 766 Registered: 11-2006 |
"This would be like me renouncing my citizenship because of the 8 years we just had to suffer through under idiot George and crazy evil Dick, who not only ruined this country and its reputation, but are responsible for thousands and thousands of deaths halfway around the world." I know several people (several being 6) who have done just this. 2 now live in Europe (France, I think), and the others are in Canada. While technically still US citizens, all are pursuing citizenship in their adopted countries. Sometimes I envy them. | |||
Mtm Member Username: Mtm Post Number: 345 Registered: 06-2006 |
It took me a bit to find it but this pic. ALWAYS makes me smile. At least she did her hair for that one.  But also read on another site that perhaps the Clownsil members who are exptecting to be busted by the Feds. shortly are VERY stressed and it's affecting their thinking. They're possibly also tryng to portray themselves as persecuted by "whitey" so that when the FBI busts down their doors they can say, "See! They're after me because they're racist." | |||
Brg Member Username: Brg Post Number: 35 Registered: 02-2009 |
As a Detroiter, I am ashamed of my city council. I am ashamed that they turned this issue into a carnival. The only party that suffers is the city of Detroit. Detroit is being mocked and laugh at all over the country and that won't bring dollars here. Barbara-Rose Collins is outdated. What do I mean? She comes from the era of Coleman Young. Her ideology reflect that era and it does not help this era. Detroit is in the 21st century and yet Ms. Collins and others like her think as if we are still in the 20th century. Something to think about: Conyers and others like mention Detroit's jewels. Say you have a handful of expensive jewelry and it has be insured. Fine. However, your wealth is decreasing and the insurance is costing you too much. You cancel the insurance and hope that no one steal the jewelry from you. Your accountant tells you that you are broke and it is time to sell what you can. What are you doing to do. Sell what you can even the jewelry. Detroit is a city that does not have the tax base to sustain its "jewels." I wish that was not the case but it a reality we as Detroiters have to accept. Cobo is not moving to the suburbs, Detroit will be represented. | |||
Brg Member Username: Brg Post Number: 36 Registered: 02-2009 |
"Detroit belongs to poor black people and it should focus on meeting their much more humble needs." That's so full of shit. Poor Black people!!! So all the black folk in this city is poor? Not all of us is on welfare. | |||
Eastsideal Member Username: Eastsideal Post Number: 383 Registered: 10-2007 |
So where was Ms. Tinsley-Talabi, and has she now rethought her position (again)? | |||
Novine Member Username: Novine Post Number: 1204 Registered: 07-2007 |
"Let the rich, white, cosmopolitan sophisticates build their pleasure palaces out in the burbs, and let the poor people of Detroit get their neighborhoods back on track toward some semblance of viable habitation." Seriously Retroit, what planet do you live on? How do you propose that the people of Detroit rebuild their neighborhoods? You're peddling the false lie that Detroit's money is being sucked up for the benefit of suburbanites and at the expense of the neighborhoods. While I'll grant that Illitch does this in his corner of downtown, the truth of the matter is that without downtown, there's very little to rebuild Detroit. There is no secret pot of gold that's being hidden away that if released, would allow the neighborhoods to come back to life. Detroit has lots of problems not the least of which is ill-informed fantasy talk. | |||
Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk Post Number: 461 Registered: 11-2006 |
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Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk Post Number: 462 Registered: 11-2006 |
oh well I tried | |||
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto Post Number: 3577 Registered: 10-2003 |
be optimistic...maybe BRC will go on a hunger strike! | |||
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo Post Number: 3409 Registered: 02-2007 |
After her ramblings about India: Quote: "What does this have to do with America!?" Better yet, what does it have to do with Detroit? As outrageous as all this appears, get the feeling there is more to this than we're reading. | |||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5378 Registered: 06-2004 |
quote: Can't happen soon enough | |||
Lodgedodger Member Username: Lodgedodger Post Number: 1623 Registered: 05-2008 |
I bet last night's performance is mentioned on Bill Maher. |
