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Bosch
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 10:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://legislature.mi.gov/doc. aspx?mcl-117-3a

Can anyone tell me the background of this law?
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 11:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's some background on that 2002 proposal, as well as the 2008 one.

A Map of Where the Council Members Live

A big issue always seems to revolve around who proposes this: the council, citizens, or the state legislature. Obviously, the last party is not preferable for obvious reasons. And, given that this threatens incumbency, the council is always against it, either silently or vocally. So it's really up to the citizens to organize this. They are always the last hope.

In 2002, the movement was imposed/sponsored by the state legislature. Needless to say it's obvious why that was fought against. Another failed in 2008 because of lack of signatures.

(Message edited by lmichigan on March 12, 2009)
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Sharmaal
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 12:41 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The failed 2008 campaign is being continued. No reason to throw out a perfectly good idea.

This was spearheaded by the League of Women Voters and they have now been joined by a few other groups. Details will be coming shortly. There are petitions that can be picked up at ACORN or League of Women Voters offices.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 12:57 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keep us, updated, Sharmaal. Do they plan to make use of internet networking? They could reach a whole lot of younger Detroiters they might have otherwise missed.
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Rooms222
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The fourth way this could happen is if there become enough Hispanics in Southwest Detroit to theoretically form a majority minority Hispanic district. Under Civil Rights law, this could require such a district to be created. Since there are nine council seats and a population of 800,000 in Detroit, showing that a realistic majority minority Hispanic seat could be created in a zone system could require getting rid of at-large elections if a challenge were made(i.e. showing about 44,444 or so Hispanics live within a compact geographic area in Detroit (800,000/9/2 = 44,444). The latest estimate is about 47,000 Hispanics live in all of Detroit. Depending on the census data, a Federal civil rights lawsuit is possible. Such lawsuits got rid of at-large councils throughout the rest of America, as few places had just about every possible district be a majority minority one.
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Sharmaal
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 1:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lmichigan - Join the Facebook Group....

Detroiters for Council by District.
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Brg
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 1:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For 2008, if it failed it was because they were not in the right locations. I would have glad to sign in and I live in Northwest Detroit where 4 of the current council members reside.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 1:53 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Room22, most Southwest Detroiters believe the number is at least twice the recent estimate. I think most would agree that that wouldn't be the most desirable way to go about getting council-by-district.
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Dcmorrison12
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 8:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sharmaal - I'm not finding the group - do you have a link?
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Sharmaal
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 9:13 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.facebook.com/home.p hp?#/group.php?gid=68788639782 &ref=nf

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