Bdglsmn Member Username: Bdglsmn
Post Number: 111 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 5:24 pm: | |
It looks to me as though she is the same ole same ole and not the "change agent" that she and her supporters portray her to be. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09 /14/us/politics/14palin.html?h p |
Mthouston Member Username: Mthouston
Post Number: 1421 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 6:04 pm: | |
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Larryinflorida Member Username: Larryinflorida
Post Number: 2656 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 6:16 pm: | |
I've learned a fast lesson in this. When you marginalize her visually, the new=found converts to the McCain campaign dig their heels in further and support her "underdog' status. This will have to be done on issues to work. The press is going to have to reveal her abilities and let America decide. |
Gibran Member Username: Gibran
Post Number: 3876 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 11:36 pm: | |
sounds like anything but a reformer...she appears vindictive and power hungry...just another cheney without the experience.... |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 14661 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 11:58 pm: | |
Because her campaign message about fighting corruption, reforming government, and shrinking government is consistent, that means that she is not advocating for change? Try again desperate liberals (and again, and again). |
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55
Post Number: 2166 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 8:30 am: | |
Gibran, since McCain didn't choose her until the day before he made the announcement, and never really had any discussions with her, it's obvious that she is merely the selection of the religious fundamentalists who forced him to take her. He's bent over for the bible-thumpers and now they are calling the shots. It's kinda painful watching the "original maverick" having his strings pulled by the wacky right these days. |
Maof2 Member Username: Maof2
Post Number: 578 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 11:20 am: | |
did ya all see tina fey's impersonation on SNL last night. perfect..."i can see russia from here" |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 7605 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 8:49 am: | |
"Because her campaign message about fighting corruption, reforming government, and shrinking government is consistent..." and her actions are classically corrupt republicanisms, wholly non-transparent, wholly of the "the exec can do no wrong" variety |
Cinderpath Member Username: Cinderpath
Post Number: 774 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 10:00 am: | |
-She is nothing more than re-packaged Bush: Incompetence at its finest. Do you think the hockey mom from po-dunk Alaska has the answers to the economic meltdown now occurring on Wall-Street? (Which will greatly affect Main Street) Don't worry her beauty pageant experience will help her at least look good, and in American as we all know it is style before substance. |
Rideron Member Username: Rideron
Post Number: 108 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 1:11 pm: | |
Heres the answer, Cinder; just across the river! “I just do not trust the American people,” said Eleanor Shavell, 58, a computer programmer, who, along with several others, joked she would move to Canada if Mr Obama loses. “I cannot believe that 80 per cent of this country thinks we’re headed in the wrong direction yet 50 per cent are supporting McCain and Palin. I guess it’s like at school, there’s always got to be a bottom 50 per cent.” Ms Shavell had earlier summed up the mutual incomprehension between the opposing camps, declaring: ”It’s as if we live in two different countries”. Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008 |
Gibran Member Username: Gibran
Post Number: 3891 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 2:30 pm: | |
hell we live in two countries here...rich and poor...the middle-class were at one time a bridge...but now they are more like a bridge to nowhere Alaska.. to quote Monty... I'm a hockey mom and I'm Ok ...I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars.....on Wednesdays I go shopping for a bridge to nowhere and some tea... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =xToPCaNxaow |
Gannon Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 14013 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 2:40 pm: | |
that is more paraphrase than quote...wonder how many of our little brains were twisted growing up with that stuff on the television. Now they think it's enough to get us to vote them into the highest power of the land? If it is, we should refer to our democratic republic in past tense. |
Turkeycall Member Username: Turkeycall
Post Number: 21 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 7:29 am: | |
Is it just me . . .? Maybe she has something to say but I can't get past her voice. It's just so shrill, like a kid whining about some perceived injustice. Her voice is really irritating . . . like chalk squeaking on a blackboard or a shovel being scraped on the sidewalk. She doesn't seem to speak with much authority, just regurgitates the information she's being fed. She sounds more like a high school freshman trying to impress the seniors. She's got a "church lady" attitude about opposing views. She just isn't up to it. It just isn't working. |
Gdub Member Username: Gdub
Post Number: 1181 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 9:02 am: | |
It's not just you, Turkeycall. She sounds like an extra from Fargo on a bullhorn. And her delivery is shaky, which diminishes the effectiveness of her statements and makes her attempts at witticism fall flat. But golly wouldn't she be swell to have a beer with, ya? |
Wash_man Member Username: Wash_man
Post Number: 951 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 9:09 am: | |
There are a few people that cause me to hit the "mute" button as fast as I can as soon as I hear their voice. She's one of them. Truly irritating for sure. Hard to hear the message when the messenger is so irritating. |
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 2244 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 10:16 am: | |
^You shouldn't move to the corn belt then because that is what they sound like there. I would much rather look at or hear Palin than that fat ugly liberal shrill nasty bitch hillary cliton. |
Wash_man Member Username: Wash_man
Post Number: 953 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 11:25 am: | |
"I would much rather look at or hear Palin than that fat ugly liberal shrill nasty bitch hillary cliton." I must have missed something, I didn't realize she was on the ticket. |
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55
Post Number: 2188 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 5:21 pm: | |
Lefty, you Repubs are so thrilled that Sarah can "skin a moose". You do realize, don't you, that "skinning a moose" is an Alaskan slang term for nasty sex with a dirty, smelly, uncouth backwood woman, don't you? And when she said that she "skinned a moose" "by the back door", well, I'll let you figure out what that meant. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 14797 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 5:22 pm: | |
How is the new school year treating you so far this year Alan? What is it? 5th grade now? |
Gibran Member Username: Gibran
Post Number: 3926 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 5:27 pm: | |
well what grade is it that that values looks over substance? |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 14800 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 5:29 pm: | |
Alan? Seeing as how you demonstrate a closeness to this level of maturity, I think it best that you answer Gibran's question. |
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55
Post Number: 2191 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 7:24 pm: | |
Wow, CC, you have such selective, deli-kate sensibilities, especially considering that there was not a peep out of you when Lefty used the phrase "liberal shrill nasty bitch" to describe another female politician. Or are you just being hypocritical? Lie down on the fainting couch and fan yourself, Magnolia - the attack of the vapors will soon wane. |
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo
Post Number: 2494 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 8:49 pm: | |
This lady is a bona fide whacko. Check this out just seen on the news. http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboa rds/thread.aspx?threadid=78464 7&boardsparam=PostID%3D2234766 5 The pastor whose prayer Sarah Palin says helped her to become governor of Alaska founded his ministry with a witchhunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells. At a speech at the Wasilla Assembly of God on June 8 this year, Mrs Palin described how Thomas Muthee had laid his hands on her when he visited the church as a guest preacher in late 2005, prior to her successful gubernatorial bid. |
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55
Post Number: 2192 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 9:32 pm: | |
Here's some more info on Sarah's political firing of the head of the Alaskan State Troopers: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200 80919/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troope rgate;_ylt=AtMbKtdMX5pfbsd4d3UAOTOs 0NUE Article quote: "Todd Palin's attorney sent French a letter Thursday listing [Todd] Palin's objections to the Legislature's investigation of his wife. Among them, the attorney said, were jurisdiction questions, separation of power issues, and AN INCONVENIENT TRAVEL SCHEDULE." Well, hey, why didn't you say so earlier? No one has to obey those pesky subpoenas if it's inconvenient to your travel schedule. (Whatdaya think, he's maybe gonna be at Universal Studios Theme Park that week?) And certainly, his wife isn't running for office in the party of "Personal Responsibility", the "Law and Order" party, is she? Wait a minute, actually she is......I guess personal responsibility only counts if it's SOMEONE ELSE'S responsibility, eh? |
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo
Post Number: 2495 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 10:02 pm: | |
Well sure, you can't inconvenience these folks with pesky subpoena's. This lady would lie where the truth would fit better. Seriously, McCain must be wearing a "Kick me" sign on his back. What a huge mistake they've made. This makes the Quayle pick seem mundane. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 6428 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 10:41 pm: | |
But why? What is the real reason McCain chose Palin? I think no one has pinpointed the real reason. Pandering to the religious right has been suggested but, even there, couldn't they have found a better candidate than Palin? I think it's simply that everyone better than Palin declined the VP offer. Most Republicans have become conditioned to operate only in a friendly, winning environment. Not one of them wants to ride on a losing ticket. Correction, just one: Palin, the VP candidate of last resort. Considering how many candidates were better than Palin, that shows an astonishing desperation among Republicans. |
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 2255 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 10:50 pm: | |
She is a great choice. I think Obama's Whitewater, I mean Florida land scandal is even worse. The tasergate is meaningless and was the right thing for her to do ftom a trooper who violated the law. |
Azsaves Member Username: Azsaves
Post Number: 6 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 10:56 pm: | |
all she is, is a journalist. she hired everybody from here highschool to work with her. if ole' mccain dies she'd probably just end up hiring people to run america for her. thumbs down! |
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo
Post Number: 2496 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 11:34 pm: | |
"But why? What is the real reason McCain chose Palin?" Thats a great question. Is the Republican party that void of potential candidates? Is the McCain team that inept? Who knows, but if a Pres candidate wanted to sabotage himself, he just wrote a great how-to. ""She is a great choice."" You can't be serious. To date there are about sixteen lies she has told and keeps retelling. Even when the media is airing the ridiculousness of her repetitious falsification of her record. She does it anyway. She does one interview, says one thing, does another interview and says something different. She can't even keep track of which lie she's supposed to be telling. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 14809 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 12:58 am: | |
Well Alan, upon reflection, I denounce fully 25% of that criticism of Hilary. She is not, to the best of my knowledge, a bitch. She is definitely liberal, often nasty, and certainly shrill when she gets excited (defining the word to mean a quality of voice pitch). While I have not yet heard it, I could imagine that Palin might be shrill as well. |
Bulletmagnet Member Username: Bulletmagnet
Post Number: 1538 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 1:30 pm: | |
She's hot, and I wanna' F her. This is why she needs to be in the White House. I'm not gay, so BO doesn't do it for me. But if your gay, thats cool, vote him in. If your into older men, then you should go for Mac or Bi-dun. |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 372 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 1:41 pm: | |
Check out some sound bites from her latest interviews. It sounds like she really put her beauty pageant training to use. You know how they do it in those contests. They ask you a question, you string a few sentences together so that you sound coherent, but you're really not saying anything. A couple of those questions Gibson asked, her responses almost reminded me of Miss South Carolina. |
Bulletmagnet Member Username: Bulletmagnet
Post Number: 1539 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 5:49 pm: | |
I'd like to see her get it on with Granholm. It would be a whole brand new brand of porn. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 6434 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 10:03 pm: | |
I still think no one has adequately explained why Palin was selected over all the better candidates for VP. Here's one theory:
Ring of Fire's Weekly News Vol. 25 So there's a clue as to who the puppetmaster might be should Palin find her way into the Oval Office.
Here's Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.'s quote of what McCain wrote about Paul Weyrich in "Worth the Fighting For: A Memoir."quote:Weyrich possessed the attributes of a Dickensian villain, corpulent and dyspeptic, his mouth is set in a perpetual sneer as if life in general were an unpleasant experience. He is the embodiment of the caricature often used unfairly to malign all religious conservatives. I like to think I know a pompous self-serving son-of-a-bitch when I see one. |
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 2277 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 10:17 pm: | |
"get it on with Granholm", who would be the giver |
Gibran Member Username: Gibran
Post Number: 3937 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 12:09 am: | |
of course she is going to speak well and carry on canned speech etc... she was a journalist and a beauty pageant contestant..it's not the presentation that worries e it's the ideology behind the fluff.... |
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55
Post Number: 2196 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 8:44 am: | |
Lefty: "The tasergate is meaningless ..." No Lefty, "Troopergate" is quite meaningful since it reflects directly on the moral character of a vice-presidential candidate. (You may be getting Troopergate confused with Whitewater, in which sexual pervert Kenny Starr spent $70 million of OUR TAX MONEY and five years to find NOTHING.) |
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit
Post Number: 2103 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 8:49 am: | |
Some U.S. Americans don't have maps... |
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field
Post Number: 1003 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 9:14 am: | |
quote:Some U.S. Americans don't have maps The Iraq everywhere like such as? (Message edited by Flanders_field on September 21, 2008) |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 14829 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 2:26 pm: | |
Trooper gate may, or may not reveal problems with Palin. The process must be allowed to run its' course without influence by media and liberal agendas. Judgment must be reserved for the completion of this process. |
Gannon Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 14045 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 2:40 pm: | |
UM, how about 'the process' not being influenced by political operatives on ALL sides?! Your bias is considerable, Cc, and the glare hurts my eyes. How about it not being hindered by the people directly involved? (like Palin herself) |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 14834 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 2:44 pm: | |
She is acting under legal counsel to protect her interests. She has this right and is not to be criticised for exercising it...if she did not, she would be stupid. |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 7669 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 11:31 am: | |
guess what bats -- employers have a right to look at everything done on any equipment they provide. They have a right to those emails, text messages, anything. the people have a right to anything involving decisions Palin made ON THEIR BEHALF acting as an employee of the people. |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 10374 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 11:36 am: | |
She was selected so that the Repubs could court the female vote and nothing more. |
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua
Post Number: 1853 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 12:32 pm: | |
More scandal from Alaska
quote:Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's hometown required women to pay for their own rape examinations while she was mayor, a practice her police chief fought to keep as late as 2000. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITI CS/09/21/palin.rape.exams/inde x.html |
Higgs1634 Member Username: Higgs1634
Post Number: 667 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 2:28 pm: | |
DAY 24...STILL no news conference from the VP nominee.
quote:Mr. McCain is entitled to choose the person he thinks would be best for the job. He is not entitled to keep the public from being able to make an informed assessment of that judgment. Ms. Palin's speech-making skills are impressive, but the more she repeats the same stump speech lines, the queasier we get. Nor have her answers to the gentle questioning she has encountered provided any confidence that Ms. Palin has a grasp of the issues. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09 /20/AR2008092001763.html |
Larryinflorida Member Username: Larryinflorida
Post Number: 2814 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 2:42 pm: | |
If they can keep her hidden from any critical questioning for 43 more days, and keep her answering in slogan-form, they may pull this off. They changed the VP debate rules to be less free-form for her, already. |