  Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9161 Registered: 10-2003 |
http://www.npr.org/templates/s tory/story.php?storyId=9712476 8 quote: More at link. | ||
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001 Post Number: 3667 Registered: 11-2003 |
I found it ironic that the Saudis were calling them terrorists. And the people who flew into the WTC, the Pentagon and into the ground in Pennsylvania were from what country? If that's not the pot calling the kettle black! | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 2867 Registered: 11-2007 |
When I was in Naval "A" school in San Diego during the 70's, part of the base was cordoned off for the ongoing training of the Royal Saudi Navy. I haven't read of any involvement by their forces at all in any news reports. Is this also at our expense to protect their profits going through the shipping lanes ? | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9162 Registered: 10-2003 |
The story reports: quote: Apparently they only now feel obliged to get involved. | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 2869 Registered: 11-2007 |
The Somali's will attack with what, a beat up Toyota pickup with a .50 cal machine gun and several stoned civilians manning it ? Maybe the Somali air force ? | ||
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav Post Number: 1117 Registered: 09-2007 |
Damn....Looks as though our OPEC friends will stop at nothing to drive oil prices back up. Have at it...ain't nothing we do about it no-how | ||
Denbytar64 Member Username: Denbytar64 Post Number: 54 Registered: 03-2008 |
What are the best dressed Pirates wearing these days....ARRRRRMANI | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 16114 Registered: 11-2006 |
Did/do they think they will get away with this? Worse than thinking that you can successfully rob Fort Knox and get away with it. | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 2881 Registered: 11-2007 |
Cc, the pirates have seized 88 vessels in that area so far this year. It seems they ARE getting away with it. | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4255 Registered: 02-2007 |
there is a fear that since the cargo is volatile and could go up with a missile hit-that paying these guys off is better than the alternative..and evidently they are not poor anymore. They drive MB and live in mansions...real pirates..sounds like the GOP: sorry cc had too ;)... | ||
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav Post Number: 1123 Registered: 09-2007 |
I'm with talk-radio personality, Michael Savage - on the issue of Pirates: Find out where they're from...wipe the community from face of the planet; that should cut these mother-truckers off at the knees. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9171 Registered: 10-2003 |
How much more wiping off the planet can one do to Somalia? | ||
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav Post Number: 1128 Registered: 09-2007 |
Johnlodge....just a tiny more - just this once. Lest the US and other weakly led nations end up falling really, really hard. | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 8168 Registered: 02-2007 |
bigb - bats doesn't base his opinion on fact -- he bases his opinion on... his opinion Why don't these ship have armed guards with big damn guns? they have every tactical advantage, SHOULD be able to spot these guys before they get near. just give em something powerful enough to sink a skiff at 100 yards and this whole thing would be over | ||
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav Post Number: 1129 Registered: 09-2007 |
Rb336.....Indeed. Can't understand why ships in that area don't have a specific and highly-enforced "no approach perimeter"; enter it & be blown to bits. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9173 Registered: 10-2003 |
I'm sure they will soon. Hopefully they don't end up with escorts at our expense. | ||
Sirrealone Member Username: Sirrealone Post Number: 274 Registered: 01-2007 |
I guess I'm confused on how they get away with this. Can someone help? I mean, it's not like they can set sail to where nobody would know where they are, drain all the oil off of it and sell the oil. If they demand ransom, that's fine, but eventually they have to leave the ship, don't they? How do they get away? Do they have a submarine? Seems that whenever they got off the ship, regardless of whether it's in a boat, a helicopter, the shore, they'd be taken into custody. I can understand how pirates might get away with it on raids where they jump aboard, take what they want, and leave before help can arrive, but sitting in the middle of the water for days and days? I'm missing something. Please enlighten me. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9175 Registered: 10-2003 |
Look where they are mainly operating, who's going to stop them? Some poor African country that is probably at war with a neighboring poor African country? Some little Island nation in the Indian Ocean? | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 2889 Registered: 11-2007 |
Put a couple of radar guided Phalanx Gatling guns on some of the ships, and fakes on others. They would really think twice !  | ||
Denbytar64 Member Username: Denbytar64 Post Number: 55 Registered: 03-2008 |
It was OPEC that hired the pirates....ha ha | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 2921 Registered: 07-2007 |
Look at this sh.t, a live map of pirate attacks worldwide. Most of them are near weak countries with muslims or dictators running the country. http://www.icc-ccs.org/index.p hp?option=com_fabrik&view=visu alization&controller=visualiza tion.googlemap&Itemid=89 | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4257 Registered: 02-2007 |
with Muslims running the country? wow very enlightened..isn't there another forum ...yes steely's practitioners of hate... look at the geographical proximity to straits and narrow passages...yes some of those countries have Muslims...but so does Kosovo and Turkey... | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 6890 Registered: 12-2005 |
A ship that size has only 25 crew members. Now there's a good example of wrongsizing your staff. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 6891 Registered: 12-2005 |
quote:I doubt they want the oil. Just holding the ship out of production would create enough of a growing cost to induce a ransom payment. quote:They might arm timed explosives hidden in critical places. It's a big ship. Once safely escaped, they could disclose the locations and disarming instructions. Doing so would establish their credibility for their next operation. Disclaimer: I am not a practicing criminal mastermind. | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4258 Registered: 02-2007 |
Jimaz..careful...someone might put your picture on DMESS  | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 16121 Registered: 11-2006 |
Told you they were not going to get away with it. What were they thinking? | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9189 Registered: 10-2003 |
Did they not get away with it? What happened? | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9190 Registered: 10-2003 |
They are still negotiating with the Pirates who stole the tanker.. HOWEVER: http://www.google.com/hostedne ws/ap/article/ALeqM5gB7YMEDuCw wY9ncDOtPAkEI4-H2wD94I759G0 Indian Navy sinks suspected Pirate "Mother Ship" | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 16125 Registered: 11-2006 |
They were dead from the minute they boarded the ship, they just didn't know it yet. | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4260 Registered: 02-2007 |
man john you beat me to it: By Agence France Presse (AFP) An Indian warship destroyed a pirate "mother vessel" in the Gulf of Aden, the navy said Wednesday, as bandits demanded a ransom for a Saudi supertanker seized in the most daring sea raid yet. The Indian frigate Tabar, one of a dozen warships from several countries protecting shipping lanes in the area. |
