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Ccbatson
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Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 4:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sells what?
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Classicyesfan
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Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 9:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cc asks "sells what?"

Limbaugh et al are wise to appeal to the hysteria of the emotional and poorly educated Americans because it helps them sell the very programs that hurt the average citizen. There is a huge population of hysterically prejudiced, intolerant, unenlightened and gullible saps who are easy prey for the "right wing brainwashing". It sells! Now, come on, you knew that!!! Why do we have to keep telling it!
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20043_stotter
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Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 2:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kaa-ching!
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 4:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hurts them how? Less handouts? Less taxes? Less freedom? Less opportunity?
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Classicyesfan
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Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 6:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Hurts them how? Less handouts? Less taxes? Less freedom? Less opportunity?"

Try reading some European opinions instead of listening to that radio entertainer. It's enlightening to get another viewpoint. The dumbed down American votes for the right's emotional "hatred" hot buttons inadvertently enable the enrichment of the wealthy class at the expense of the less wealthy. Remember, repeat after me, "trickle down does not work".

Shooting themselves in the foot? Gullible dupes.

We've been over lesson #101 so many times. Next class at 8 am.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 12:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"opinions"?? How is that relevant? How does that restore an economy suffering the plight of creeping socialism? How is that kind of opinion not propaganda?
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Classicyesfan
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 7:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cc say: "opinions"?? How is that relevant?

Isn't that what Rush offers? I mean, his pronouncements can hardly be called fact-based.

Do you not offer your opinion freely and quite often?

Why would perspectives from non-Americans not be relevant? Oh wait a minute, I forgot that the right wing zealots care not for world opinion.

cc say: "How does that restore an economy suffering the plight of creeping socialism?"

You are of the opinion that "creeping socialism" is the issue. How is that relevant? How is that not propaganda? Your opinion varies in relevance among individuals. I tune out as soon as I see "socialism" so clearly your opinion is irrelevant to me.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 11:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone act differently based on Rush's opinions?

This myth of European ill will (bad opinion) of the US is changing foreign policy via this administration, and that is a huge problem.
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Classicyesfan
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 8:19 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Does anyone act differently based on Rush's opinions?"

Wake up and smell the misanthropes. Have you not seen the "I hope Obama fails" t-shirts?

Of course the toad entices actions among the dumbed-down Archie Bunkers.

"This myth of European ill will (bad opinion)"

Really? Your beloved FAUX News would not support you on that statement.
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Danindc
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 8:48 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CCBatson: "Does anyone act differently based on Rush's opinions?"

This is the kind of intellectual powerhouse providing the current constructive counterbalance:

quote:

After 10 minutes of exposure to Michael Savage's rants on his car radio, Hi-Caliber was utterly inspired. He turned hard right, and we're not talkin' GPS directions here. As he says, "it was like an epiphany".



http://thepoliticalcarnival.bl ogspot.com/2009/03/video-cpacs -republican-rapper-obamas.html
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is not because of what was said, it is because the person listening, using their judgement, decided that they found the arguments in favor of conservatism to be true.
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Classicyesfan
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 6:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"It is not because of what was said, it is because the person listening, using their judgement, decided that they found the arguments in favor of conservatism to be true."

Or just as likely, it was because what was said appealed to the baser nature of the person listening, who was too lazy to use their judgement.

Dittoheads!
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Rb336
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Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 10:17 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yep -- i love the fact that his fans are soo proud of their inability to articulate an original thought that they call themselves "dittoheads"
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 11:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Irrational conclusions are not "just as likely" as rational ones.
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 10:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Irrational conclusions are not "just as likely" as rational ones.



Proof? Comprehensive examples?
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 4:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2+2 does not equal -34.3456.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 4:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And, it is not likely that it ever will, is it?

Thank you for the wonderful opportunity to succinctly and resoundingly answer your question Vetalalumni
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Classicyesfan
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 5:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Irrational conclusions are not "just as likely" as rational ones."

That depends on who is concluding....a poorly educated slob in Lower Slobovia is more likely to draw a "dittohead" conclusion than an well educated elitist in Cambridge, MA. Statistically speaking that is....
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 5:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

2+2 does not equal -34.3456.



quote:

And, it is not likely that it ever will, is it?

Thank you for the wonderful opportunity to succinctly and resoundingly answer your question



You are welcome. Please, while taking your bow, explain what you are talking about above?

(Message edited by vetalalumni on March 08, 2009)
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 1:04 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In your post 1354, you asked for proof and comprehensive examples that irrational conclusions are not just as likely as rational ones.

2+2 does not equal -34.3456

As complete, succinct and exact an answer as could exist.

A simple masterpiece unanticipated until you asked your question.
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 2:10 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^^^ Too proud Ccbatson. You invite bullying.
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That many Black people in one place - Virginia and Maryland sure ain't gonna want them. They didn't fight the Civil War for nothing. Washington D.C. is a 'Chocolate City' and as such will get beat up by everyone, mostly the neo-cons. You sure as hell can't give them people the representation, education and opportunities they deserve as American citizens, even 150 years after the Civil War.
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Rb336
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Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 9:41 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Irrational conclusions are not "just as likely" as rational ones."
then
"2+2 does not equal -34.3456"

sorry, the latter is not a proof of the former.

irrational conclusions (ie Obama is a socialist) happen all the time, particularly when the person(s) making the conclusions allows ideology to trump fact
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Danindc
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Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 9:52 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^^^The funny thing is, I think CCBatson was trying to use (what he thought were) rational and irrational numbers to illustrate his point.
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Jimaz
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Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 6:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those are all rational numbers.
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 7:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Move along. Nothing else to see here.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 9:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rb. Here is an exercise for you. Define socialist, identify 5 examples from history, compare them to Obama, and see if there is any difference on substantive issues.
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Rb336
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 9:01 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry, Bats, you are the one who bandies about a term he obviously doesn't understand, and who often seems to invent definitions to suit his ideology rather than fact
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 8:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry? For what? Surrendering the argument? No apology necessary, I will take the win by forfeit.
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Rb336
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 8:49 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

whatever gets you through the night
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 11:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I said, forfeit accepted (even a bitter one).

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