  Iseries840 Member Username: Iseries840 Post Number: 1008 Registered: 08-2005 |
What does "weak stance on defense" mean? Are we going to mothball our aircraft carriers and Ohio Class subs? | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1281 Registered: 05-2007 |
Weak relative to recent years. Obama administration says it intends to offer diplomacy first, big stick second (if necessary). Basically not being a bully. Alluding to the fear associated with being too nice to those who may and do pose a threat to America. | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1284 Registered: 05-2007 |
Jindal channeling 30 Rock's Kenneth the Page. http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/ 2009/02/25/kenneth-the-governo r-offensive-brilliant-or-offen sively-brilliant/?iid=tsmodule | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 1275 Registered: 05-2006 |
From right-wing neo-con talk radio's point of view, they would explode all over themselves to have Joe(Sammy)the Dumber be their savior. And the redneck voice would be satisfied with Sarah(you betcha) Palin as his VP. | ||
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten Post Number: 714 Registered: 05-2006 |
What about Ronald Paul? "America's leading voice for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies" America being a center-right or left country depending on who you talk to will not vote in great numbers for fringe candidates either to the right or left | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1292 Registered: 05-2007 |
There is much more to say regarding Jindal, but it is becoming sadistic to continue. I shall cease. | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 8584 Registered: 02-2007 |
"they would explode all over themselves to have Joe(Sammy)the Dumber be their savior" he had a book signing in Borders DC. 11 people showed, he sold 5 books | ||
Oladub Member Username: Oladub Post Number: 1255 Registered: 08-2006 |
Vetalalumni asks, "What about Ronald Paul? "America's leading voice for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies" Santa outpolls Yoda. Americans prefer magic to reason. Other reasons why Ron Paul is an unlikely candidate: Ron Paul will be 76 come the next election. The neocons Republican establishment hates him with a passion. The press alternatively dissed or blacklisted him when his numbers started going up in the previous primary. Wall Street did not contribute to his campaign. That being the case, my follow-up choices, at this point, are in order, Jesse Ventura and Mark Sanford. Many of Jesse's positions are very close to Ron Paul's but he is not Republican. Mark Sanford (R) might be the closest major Republican ideologically. This is Jesse in 9/08 announcing that he will run for the presidency but only if he is allowed in the debates. At this time, Democrats and Republicans will not allow third party debate candidates. I think that if he did get on the debate stage, he would cut attack the Democrat/Republican corruption. In Minnesota, a Democrat state, he drew non-voters out of the woodwork and toppled the establishment on a skimpy campaign budget. By the end of tape two he has rocked the crowd. I think this guy has what it takes to take on Santa. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =79eCo6ocBEc part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =xMKIgbIYD48&feature=related part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =3KqEErhR9-M&NR=1 part 3 | ||
Wally Member Username: Wally Post Number: 577 Registered: 12-2003 |
quote:I think you are confusing the USA's offense abroad, with national defense. Ron Paul is for strong national defense. Iraq, that's pure offense. Same goes with the isolationist argument against Ron Paul. An isolationist he is not. Non-interventionist, he is. HUGE difference. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19047 Registered: 11-2006 |
Both...a typical libertarian position is to consider foreign affairs not in the interest of those at home. His (Paul's) position on Iraq is illustrative of this. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 3735 Registered: 06-2008 |
A nice political cartoon that captures the reason America views conservatives as incompetent and unqualified to lead our country... http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-srv/opinions/cartoonsandvid eos/toles_sketch.html?name=Tol es&date=02262009 | ||
Oladub Member Username: Oladub Post Number: 1259 Registered: 08-2006 |
Bats, Leaving your king unprotected in chess is pretty stupid. The attempt to maintain a worldwide economic empire favored by mainstream Democrats and neocon Republicans such as Jindal have left us so short of reserves that the Mexican border has remained almost wide open for the duration of the Iraq war. We still haven't found significant weapons of mass destruction there or whatever excuse now used for being there. Let's cross our fingers and hope that the people we keep antagonizing overseas haven't brought WMD's across our border while we are guarding theirs. | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 4457 Registered: 10-2003 |
Mark Sanford: the governor who refused to apply for federal aid when South Carolina's unemployment fund ran dry, even though 9.6% of the state (officially) is out of work. It sure is nice to have a governor more concerned with federal budget deficits than the people of his own state. I suppose if we were all lucky enough to be born into wealthy plantation families, Mark Sanford might be the man! | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1660 Registered: 07-2004 |
There won't be a Republican Party in 2012. They will splinter into the Nut-job Party and the Wanna-be Nut-job Party. Every time a republican member of congress opens up his or her mouth, he or she sounds like a sore loser. The American voter will remember how republicans reacted to the stimulus bill of 2009 and in 2012 will clearly vote for President Obama in a landslide. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 3736 Registered: 06-2008 |
^Why did you repost my link? | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 4461 Registered: 10-2003 |
^Because I had a Polack Moment? :-) Coffee needs to kick in a little faster on Friday mornings! | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1303 Registered: 05-2007 |
Boehner (buddy of Gingrich and Cantor  ) for Vice President? He promises not to cry. http://www.gop12.com http://gingrichproductions.com | ||
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field Post Number: 1741 Registered: 01-2008 |
Booby Jindal gets caught with his pants down. Lying in a nationally broadcast speech to the American public about a Katrina incident that he was not part of, and is based on heresay from the now deceased Sheriff Harry Lee, which of course throws doubt on the entire story, since Jindal admits that he wasn't present at the time. Jindal Admits Katrina Story Was False This is no minor difference. Jindal's presence in "Lee's office during the crisis itself was a key element of the story's intended appeal, putting him at the center of the action during the maelstrom. Just as important, Jindal implied that his support for the sheriff helped ensure the rescue went ahead. But it turns out Jindal wasn't there at the key moment, and played no role in making the rescue happen." Since Booby made that fable a central part of his speech, will he apologize to America in person on national TV for making it? Probably not, as it could've happened that way, ya know?? The speech itself was not well received to begin with, and now this "fib" comes out, so much for Jindal the '12 GOP POTUS candidate, IMO. | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 4470 Registered: 10-2003 |
Oh, come on. You can't let the truth get in the way of a good story, can you? | ||
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field Post Number: 1742 Registered: 01-2008 |
^^Like Chimpy's WMD, GHWB's readable lips, and Ronnie Raygun's WWII stories? Nope!!  | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19068 Registered: 11-2006 |
How does accepting aid put people back to work (other than pretend government work that does nothing for the economy)? | ||
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten Post Number: 723 Registered: 05-2006 |
Extending unemployment aid doesn't put people to work but it gives an additional lifeline to folks who probably still won't have a job after everything runs out. If Piyush and his southern governor buddies don't accept the aid and let there people suffer you will see even fewer Republicans after the 2010 election cycle. How could Piyush not know that the media would check his bogus story. And to think Nagin actually likes the guy. | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 4473 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: It doesn't, but neither does denying aid. Unemployment benefits are hardly extravagant--how many people do you think can survive on $1200 per month, before taxes? Do you really think that "vast" sum of money is such an incentive to keep people from working? If unemployment is cut off, however, you will definitely see a lot more defaults, bad debts, and unpaid bills that only prolong the mess. | ||
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field Post Number: 1747 Registered: 01-2008 |
The only conservative that I have ever read that has a lick of common sense, IMO, is Patrick J. Buchanan, the rest are characters straight out of the movie "One Flew Over The CPAC Cuckoo's Nest" starring Rush Limbaugh as R.P. McMurphy and Ann Coulter as Nurse Mildred Ratched: Some of the rest of the inmates running the asylum are: Newt Gingrich ... Dale Harding Bob Corker ... Charley Cheswick Tim Pawlenty ... Billy Bibbit Karl Rove ... Taber Arnold Schwarzenegger ... Chief Bromden Jim DeMint ... Martini Mike Huckabee ... Dr. John Spivey Michael Steele ... Turkle John Cornyn ... Fredrickson John Boehner ... Jim Sefelt Grover Norquist ... Warren David A. Keene ... Washington Richard Shelby ... Miller Tom Coburn ... Col. Matterson Ron Paul ... Bancini Phyllis Schlafly... Nurse Itsu Michelle Malkin ... Nurse Pilbow Sarah Palin ... Candy Michele Bachmann... Rose Thomas Sowell ... Ellis Ken Blackwell ... Beans Garfield Bobby Jindal ... Ellsworth Mitt Romney...Producer Jeb Bush...Director (Thanks Cc) (Message edited by Flanders_field on February 28, 2009) | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19099 Registered: 11-2006 |
Romney isn't on you list. | ||
Oladub Member Username: Oladub Post Number: 1273 Registered: 08-2006 |
At the end of the CPAC conference, a straw poll was held. Some surprises. results- Mitt Romney: 20% Bobby Jindal: 14% Ron Paul: 13% Sarah Palin: 13% Newt Gingrich: 10% Mike Huckabee: 7% Mark Sanford: 4% Rudy Giuliani: 3% Tim Pawlenty: 2% Charlie Crist: 1% | ||
Sknutson Member Username: Sknutson Post Number: 650 Registered: 03-2004 |
Why don't we call Jindal by his REAL NAME of Piyush? "Bobby" is just a nickname. | ||
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten Post Number: 726 Registered: 05-2006 |
I listened to Piyush's speech again. Listening to that outright lie of a story which was central to the theme of his whole speech was akin to reading an article by Mitch Albom. The guy is not ready for prime time. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 6746 Registered: 11-2004 |
Sknutson, if he wants to go by "Bobby" then so be it. It's obviously his choice. This almost speaks of the same tone of when some of Obama's opponents started invoking his middle name of Hussein. Barack Obama doesn't use it in every day conversation so why should anyone else? Same should hold true for Jindal. We choose to be called what we want. Disagree with his opinions, hate his political affiliation, despise his approach, loathe his tie if you must, but calling him anything else than what he wants to be called is childish and totally disrespectful of the person. | ||
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten Post Number: 729 Registered: 05-2006 |
Smogboy, all Sknutson is pointing out is a double standard among some people regarding the treatment of Mr. Jindal vs President Obama Remember a few months ago we had people saying Barack HUSSEIN Obama or BARRY Obama and saying it in a disrespectful matter as if he wasn't an American. Or he calls himself Barry because he's not proud of Barack his legal given name. Well Bobby is a nonsensical Americanized nickname Mr. Jindal uses because, I guess he's just not proud enough of his LEGAL name Piyush. I will refer to Mr. Jindal as Piyush (which is a wonderful name) Bobby is just... too common. What we need to be asking ourselves is why did Piyush feel he needed to lie like he did on national TV. |
