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Smogboy
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 1:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Firstandten, that's what I'm calling out too.

I'm not at all condoning the people calling Barack Obama, Barry or by his middle name. I find that disrespectful because that's not what HE goes by.

Obviously Jindal doesn't go by Piyush because it's his choice- and not for any of us to judge. If someone named Stephen wants to be called Steve, isn't calling him Stephen disrespectful as well? Same applies to Mr. Jindal here doesn't it?? It has absolutely nothing to do with legal names or such- it has to do with just simple respect to that person.

I'm not saying I agree with his position that he took on television either but calling Jindal, "Piyush" is just the same as the neocons calling Obama, "Hussein". It's not incorrect but just disrespectful. We can surely skewer his weak speech without having to resort being rude, can't we?? That seems like such a cheap Rush Limbaugh (ewww!) sort of thing to do. Since when did Bobby or any other common name suddenly become a bad thing?
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Skylark
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 1:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The way I look at it, we just got rid of an infestation of carpenter ants and now were discussing the best way to get them back.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 1:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When the only criticism from the opposition on the left is this trivia, we know they are stymied and frustrated by the concepts....a very good sign. Akin to attacking Mitt Romney for being Mormon.
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Firstandten
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 1:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Smogboy I agree with your point the only thing I was trying to illustrate is that respect is a two way street and its seems a few months back some posters to this board and others forgot about that and sometimes a loving reminder is needed.

Cc The left doesn't like Mitt because he's a republican , its the right that doesn't like him because he's Mormon.

(Message edited by firstandten on March 01, 2009)
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 1:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yet they liked McCain over Romney. Why? They fear Romney...a good sign.

The efforts in the liberal media to "out" his religion were from the left BTW.
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Smogboy
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 1:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought Romney's religion was a known quantity for a very long time already. What was there to "out"? And yet he still couldn't get the nod from the Republicans? Are we saying that the Republicans actually believed in the demonizing of Romney?
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Firstandten
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 2:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cc I just love when you throw stuff out there knowing you can't back it up


"According to political scientist and commentator Larry Sabato, "One reason Romney pulled out of South Carolina was that he could not overcome the palpable prejudice that evangelical Christians(I don't think thats the left) have about his religion, and South Carolina's view is shared throughout much of the South and elsewhere. Partly as a consequence, Romney shows up in national polls as the weakest of the major Republican candidates".


That was during the primaries.
Now, he may be the strongest because the republicans are grabbing any lifeline they can find.
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Romney communicates ideas well and has a certain confidence about himself. Good qualities for a politician. Unfortunately for him, the more people see and hear from him the less appealing he will ultimately be.
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Danindc
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 8:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

That was during the primaries.
Now, he may be the strongest because the republicans are grabbing any lifeline they can find.



Then you're not aware of the innate stubbornness of South Carolinians!
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20043_stotter
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Romney is a bullshitter. Remember the hunting incident? But, then again aren't most politicians?
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Firstandten
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL ! I guess so danindc I've only drove thru the state never spent any time there. I was referring to the fact Mitt got a 20% approval rating at the c-pac which isn't saying a lot but it was the highest of all the candidates listed.

(Message edited by firstandten on March 01, 2009)
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Danindc
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Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 11:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

LOL ! I guess so danindc I've only drove thru the state never spent any time there. I was referring to the fact Mitt got a 20% approval rating at the c-pac which isn't saying a lot but it was the highest of all the candidates listed.



I've been told (by a native North Carolinian) that it's no wonder the Civil War started in South Carolina--it's the most pig-headed state you'll ever set foot in (his words). Much like modern-day Detroit, they'd rather crash-and-burn on their own terms instead of looking to the outside for pragmatic ideas.

Speaking of which (and tying back to the thread)...

Land to Sanford: Go to Dillon

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State Sen. John Land of Manning has a message for Gov. Mark Sanford: Stop traveling the country and visit J.V. Martin Junior High School in Dillon.

The message’s upshot?

Sanford — who has emerged as one of the nation’s leading critics of the stimulus package, congressional Democrats and President Obama — should take care of business at home, S.C. Democrats say.

J.V. Martin has become a national symbol of rural education neglect after President Obama highlighted the school in his address to Congress last week.



http://www.thestate.com/politi cs/story/700145.html
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Flanders_field
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Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 4:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Booby, your utter hypocrisy is showing again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAMcvfjPaXY

(110 million NOLA-Baton Rouge hi-speed passenger rail stimulus request)






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Ccbatson
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Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 4:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Booby"?? Name calling?

Besides, who are you addressing this too?
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Rb336
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Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 4:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jindal, Jindhal, however it is spelled, quite clearly, and yes, bobby is a hypocritical boob
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Flanders_field
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Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 4:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unlike you, Ccbatson, I tend to stay on topic, which reads: 2012 GOP presidential hopefuls. If a politician is going to blatantly lie, especially in a nationally televised address, I will call them the name that I feel he or she deserves to be called.

(Message edited by Flanders_field on March 03, 2009)
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 12:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Romney several months ago stated he is unlikely to run in 2012, and wants to work on improving America from outside of Washington.

Romney calls to mind several personalities:
- a softer version of Pat Boone (religious)
- Tom Landry (quite and dignified demeanor, maybe unfazed by fads)
- the Reverend Billy Graham

Romney also said at CPAC 2009,

"Our country has a new president and he has our prayers and best wishes..." and "We want our country to succeed, no matter who's in power. We want America to be prosperous and secure, regardless of who gets the credit."

How about Rush and Romney have a debate?
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Zulu_warrior
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 2:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CcBatson

The 2 problems with Romney is that he has a branding issue and that he is not electorially viable.

He represents to many, the Country Club republican- stuffed shirt, pandering about stock portfolios and the like, and not dealing with the issues of the common man. This decreases his popularity and makes him less likable to the mass of voters. Its easy for the dems to hang the "wall street" albatross on his neck.

He would do well and be competitive in the Wes t and Great Plain states electorially, but then he loses huge ground in the South, The Mid-Atlantic, and is marginal in the Rust Belt, which went Democratic this year. No hope on the West Coast, or in the New England States.

That's why he didnt make it out of the primary.

The Republicans would have to change the rules for him to win the nomination, much less the general...
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Firstandten
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 4:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The republicans have a problem. They want someone who will appeal to the base, yet that base isn't large enough to win an national election. Even the casual political observer could see there economic policies were a disaster. They could resort to wedge issues but that doesn't win national elections. As a result they resort to questionable campaign strategies in order to win elections.

There ideas tend to be rigid, thus not inclusive thereby not expanding the base.

As the economic crisis gets further past their rear view mirror they can nit pic and criticize the party in power and gain some points that way.

Until they can legitimely address the changing demograpics in this country by being more flexible(Steele has the right idea but its too superficial) there place for the next few election cycles will be the party of NOPE.
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Mauser765
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"2012 Republican presidential hopefuls"

They are digging up Nathan Bedford Forrest to lead the pack.

Bring your bedsheets and your horse, we is havin a par-tee !
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 5:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I disagree, Romney is very electable as a nominee.
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Detroit313
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 5:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lord Voldermore!

Best choice..

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Ccbatson
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 5:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Voldemort is a card carrying Democrat.
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Detroit313
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey-

No name calling...ha :-)

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Jams
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 5:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

I disagree, Romney is very electable as a nominee



Based on Cc's history, bet the house...against.
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Classicyesfan
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 6:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wouldn't rule out any Republican who has that crazed, "touched" intensity in his eyes....Mitt looks like he's dreaming of those many spouses that await him in heaven (all female spouses of course), or maybe about what country to invade next.
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 9:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^^^ Funny observation Classicyesfan!
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Firstandten
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Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 1:11 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"I disagree, Romney is very electable as a nominee"


George would have been very electable, but he's not here.
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Rb336
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Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 8:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Romney is very electable as a nominee."

why?

why not:
1) he isn't even nominatable
2) he comes off as far too greasy/slick
3) he can't connect with people as a speaker
4) he has more flip-flops than a beach-front dollar store
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Wally
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Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Romney's a joke. He knew better than to continue his campaign any longer than he did. It's too bad the Republican machine squashed the only ethical and sensible candidate that was running for the Republican ticket, the good doctor Ron Paul. Looking back on the Republican debates and primary campaign, Ron Paul was the ONLY one who addressed the economy and foresaw coming disaster, when the other candidates were asleep at the wheel (Democrats included, well, maybe not Kucinich)


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