Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 8733 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:31 pm: | |
http://articles.latimes.com/20 09/feb/10/local/me-water-restr ictions10 It seems to me that an intelligent society wouldn't put way more people into the desert than they can feed/water. maybe we should start charging $10/gallon for all the bottled water we ship out there |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 5413 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:37 pm: | |
$10/gallon if they buy American based and built $1,000/gallon if they don't |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 790 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:59 pm: | |
This is the next big political battle. The Great Lakes states and our water vs the Western states and their lack of water. If you think the Southern senators were heartless as they bashed us the Western senators will be just as bad if not worst. |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 8736 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 4:37 pm: | |
luckily, we have the weight of law in the form of both US laws and international treaties to protect them. I had a friend in CA during one of their worst dry spells. he used to call all winter bragging on the sun and warmth. that summer, he was bitchin and moaning about the water restrictions. I made a video of me wasting water every way I could think of and sent it to him |
Gibran Member Username: Gibran
Post Number: 4608 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 4:51 pm: | |
while dining in San Fran...I was scolded by a waiter for asking for a third glass of H2O with my dinner...at first I thought he was joking. |
14509glenfield Member Username: 14509glenfield
Post Number: 1555 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 4:57 pm: | |
Location, location, location |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19545 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 5:38 pm: | |
A new opportunity for entrepreneurs... desalination factories. Liberals will find some reason why it can't be allowed and prefer to allow people to suffer, but....worth mentioning. |
Gibran Member Username: Gibran
Post Number: 4610 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 5:59 pm: | |
what liberals would fight against a program like the ones in Israel if it would mean better conditions for others...I would counter that with how much profit could be made before the right invested in it. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19548 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 6:09 pm: | |
Only if the program is a government operation would liberals approve. The Catch 22 being that government programs are ineffective and costly. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 6825 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 7:11 pm: | |
Lilpup has the right idea.quote:$10/gallon if they buy American based and built $1,000/gallon if they don't That's the kind of thinking that not only solves the problem but eventually solves the cause of the problem as well. |
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23
Post Number: 4238 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 8:22 pm: | |
quote:Only if the program is a government operation would liberals approve. Only if it was a Muslim Quatar operation, would Cc approve. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19579 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 12:03 am: | |
Only if a free individual (or group of individuals) undertook the endeavor primarily for their own benefit via providing a desired/needed service or product at the best prices would I approve. |
Oladub Member Username: Oladub
Post Number: 1340 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:11 am: | |
A kind word for L.A.. In the late 90's, we took a family vacation to LA over Christmas break so our daughter could tour the California Institute of Technology campus. We enjoyed our time there. The weather was better than Mid-west weather. The Oregon Ducks were staying in our hotel to play Penn State in the Rose Bowl the next day. The Ducks were hanging around the lobby late into the night with their girlfriends before getting beat. Venice Beach, its sideshows and the manta ray we saw in one of it's canals were awesome. Driving down Santa Monica Boulevard, I was keeping my eyes open for a car wash and bar combination. CIT was easily the most impressive academic institution I've seen - sort of a science monestary of 900 students with the highest average scores in the country. We didn't experience any traffic jams or smog. What didn't work though was Christmas decorations. Green and red primary colors did not fit in with all the pastels that are southern California. I suppose that even the Christmas theme seemed out of synch with the flora and culture of L.A.. |
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe
Post Number: 2991 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:22 am: | |
If we don't take care of our water, we will be in the same fix as other areas overpopulated for their resources. We are overusing and undercaring for our valuable water, right here, right now. |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 5417 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 3:46 pm: | |
Not quite, Gazhekwe. No community is allowed to draw from the Lakes unless they are in the Lakes watershed so anything we use (less evaporation) runs back into the Lakes. There are few other places that can do that. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19581 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:08 pm: | |
How are we not taking care of the water? This sounds like more environmental arrogance to me. Remember that we are less than the smallest flea on the largest dog when it comes to our impact and power over our environment. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 6249 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:06 am: | |
Lilpup is correct. I remember Livernois_yard mentioning that Waukesha Wisconsin a western outer suburb of Milwaukee was just over the ridge and out of the Great Lakes watershead (in the Mississippi watershed). Waukesha was not allowed to tap into the greater Milwaukee water system, but neighboring Brookfield WI was. I doubt that there is any place in Michigan that is not in the Great Lakes watershed (or is there?). But that does beg the question about greater Chicago and the Chicago River flowing towards the Mississippi... Hmmmmmm.... |
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 2160 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:09 am: | |
the Great Lakes water levels are up this year, so drink up, and for god sakes....take a shower! |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 6250 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:27 am: | |
LOL... Chitaku... in Denver they had commercials about the drought situation there... they said take a quick shower... and wash only the dirty parts! |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 8737 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 8:15 am: | |
"Remember that we are less than the smallest flea on the largest dog when it comes to our impact and power over our environment" let's see a tiny flea totally alter its environment the way we have done. let's see a flea create a toxic river on the back of that dog. CC, that has got to be the stupidest thing you have ever posted here |
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe
Post Number: 2999 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 8:57 am: | |
We are profligate with our water. We let the shower run for minutes before we are ready step in, we let it run while we brush our teeth and wash dishes, we freely fill pools and wash cars. We flush chemicals into it from our houses, and we allow large companies to pollute it. Every drop we use has to be reprocessed and put back into the system. The reprocessing adds chemicals and pollutants like medical waste build up. Just because we have a lot of water, we do not address these issues responsibly. Then we move to water hungry areas like Denver, Phoenix or Atlanta, and we continue our bad habits there. We are irresponsible in the extreme, which affects the lifeblood of our planet. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19608 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 3:51 pm: | |
From the planet's perspective (given it's life span of millions of years), the whole human race will not even be an identifiable entity in a relatively short period of time. Like that tinniest flea, we can make things uncomfortable for ourselves, but not the dog. The guiding factor should be what is in our own better interest, not the planet's. BTW, that does not include fantasies put upon the gullible by Al Gore. Rb...not one of the stupidest, rather, one of the most profound and rational things posted by me. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 6255 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 4:37 pm: | |
CC, you sound like the announcer for Rocky Horror Picture Show... "and crawling on the planets face... some insect called the human race..." |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19638 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 5:23 pm: | |
More compelling then that bizarre B movie by far. |
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 1379 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 9:29 pm: | |
Compelling indeed... |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 8753 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 9:10 am: | |
btw, what is in OUR best interests is a highly liveable, diverse planet. i pity poor bats, who clearly can't see the tree for its wood |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19659 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 5:57 pm: | |
Seems highly livable to me from where I sit. Absent Al Gore's phoney doomsday prophecies, I see no reason to believe otherwise. |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 8763 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 8:18 am: | |
put up or shut up, bats |
Kenp Member Username: Kenp
Post Number: 1386 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 8:31 am: | |
We need to market our water more. Come live in Michigan were the water is. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19674 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 6:06 pm: | |
What are you referring to Rb? Kenp...maybe so?, but I don't think marketting is needed for something so obvious. Unfettering commerce (tax relief) and ousting liberals would be far more beneficial. |