  Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2928 Registered: 08-2007 |
That is a good question. Maybe the DNR has something to say about that, or on the Isle Royal national park site. They and the moose have been having a heck of a time, as one diminishes the other struggles. The moose are in a real decline and there have been many adjustments in the wolf packs, including the pack killing off an alpha male. | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2929 Registered: 08-2007 |
Here are notes on this year's winter study: http://www.isleroyalewolf.org/ wsjournal/wtrstdy/index/index. html | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9576 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Mike Rowe, back again. I got dizzy watching him climb to the top of the Mighty Mac to change the lightbulb. | ||
Gumby Member Username: Gumby Post Number: 1002 Registered: 11-2003 |
Thank you guys for returning to the subject. | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4571 Registered: 02-2007 |
this is an interesting and fun topic...I remember that the original wolf packs came to the isle over the ice.. I had a opportunity to study them in the 1970's a decision that I still regret that I didn't do so... the balance of nature is played out in a micro scale there..but what a wonderful story...it is sad to think that the balance is so delicate but also a indication of how fragile life is. | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4572 Registered: 02-2007 |
our oceans of the plains...think of how important our lakes are...from recreation to a natural balance for the floral and fauna... I hated to see the lake levels shrink...so we should be excited by the rising potential... | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 8642 Registered: 02-2007 |
when was the last time Michigan froze over? seems to me it usually is pretty clear down in the south end of the lake | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9580 Registered: 10-2003 |
According to WGN Chief Meteorologist: quote: http://blogs.trb.com/news/weat her/weblog/wgnweather/2007/02/ has_lake_michigan_ever_frozen. html | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9581 Registered: 10-2003 |
Graphs of Lake Michigan ice cover from NOAA: http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/data /ice/atlas/daily_ice_cover/dai ly_averages/plots/michigan/mig allery/index.html | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 8644 Registered: 02-2007 |
WGN - The Prairie Farmer Station! Thanks JL | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9582 Registered: 10-2003 |
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Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4573 Registered: 02-2007 |
love that leland...I could so live there | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19310 Registered: 11-2006 |
Well...that is still climate change, right? More ice and lower temperatures...still manmade global warming...just now it is man made global catastrophic climate change...right? The next step is to coerce and deceive everyone with this fallacy in order to make money. The Al Gore formula | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2931 Registered: 08-2007 |
Fishtown! Love that place. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19315 Registered: 11-2006 |
Excited about rising water levels? ANd have New York city underwater as predicted by Al Gore? But, wait a minute, his models had it occurring from increased, not decreased temperatures. Dizzying, isn't it? just the way Al intends it to be. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 1307 Registered: 05-2006 |
Bats, you really need to find a new hobby. Your obsesion with Gore is getting a bit tiresome. Back to topic, the lakes being frozen over have to be good for the lake levels. Combined with all the snow and rain, I think they should be in good shape this year for all the boaters. | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2932 Registered: 08-2007 |
What is the impact of greater ice cover? I seem to recall less evaporation, so potentially higher water levels. Traditionally we believed the winter weather abated somewhat once Superior was ice covered, but I believe there are recent studies that don't support that idea. | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2933 Registered: 08-2007 |
I found some info. It's specifically about Lake Erie, but the impact would apply to any of the Great Lakes: Ice cover can impact the economy by impeding or stopping navigation, interfering with power plants and cooling water intakes, and damaging shore structures. Other potential economic impacts of reduced ice cover could include a longer shipping season, increased evaporation, lower lake levels, increased dredging for navigation, lower ship cargo capacity, reduced winter recreational activities, and loss of critical habitats. http://www.epa.gov/med/grossei le_site/indicators/lake-erie-i ce.html | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 8647 Registered: 02-2007 |
"Excited about rising water levels? ANd have New York city underwater as predicted by Al Gore? " bats, we are talking Great Lakes water levels which are distinct from oceanic water levels. The lakes have spent years with declining levels from not freezing over | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9587 Registered: 10-2003 |
I've personally only ever been through the Cheboygan Locks.  You hold a rope and down you go. Just be sure to be back before the locks close at night. http://www.fishweb.com/maps/cheboygan/cheboygan/river/locks/index.html | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2934 Registered: 08-2007 |
Cool! We have a family tradition that my grandfather took a rowboat through the Soo locks back in the 20s. At the time, there were two locks, the Davis and the Sabin. My dad would tell the story to show that the locks were for everyone, not just the big ore boats. | ||
Cinderpath Member Username: Cinderpath Post Number: 948 Registered: 05-2006 |
Is it possible to have a nice thread without politics getting involved CC Bats? Wow, do I feel sorry for who is ever in a relationship with you; you need professional help. Back to topic: On the plus side it looks like the best looking freight Lake Boat on the Great Lakes, the Edward L. Ryerson will be outfitted and sailing on 04/02/2009! Many thought in the economy and not being a self unloader she would not run this season, so Hooray! http://www.boatnerd.com/pictur es/fleet/elr.htm | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 5096 Registered: 11-2005 |
quote: I think he has yet to invade the People we dig, Music and Cooking threads. | ||
Awfavre Member Username: Awfavre Post Number: 279 Registered: 08-2005 |
You’re right about the Ryerson, Cinderpath. But this sure illustrates what strange economic times we live in. She went to the wall early last year because of the economy, since she’s one of the least efficient vessels out there. But, she’ll be one of the few sailing this year, because ArcelorMittal owns her, & it’s cheaper for them to run their own boat than charter a more efficient one. I am not complaining, however. That means we’re guaranteed at least a couple salutes at Downtown this shipping season!  | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 8655 Registered: 02-2007 |
the ryerson is a beaut | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4575 Registered: 02-2007 |
 here is why winter can be tolerated in the splended UP | ||
Cinderpath Member Username: Cinderpath Post Number: 951 Registered: 05-2006 |
Nice shot Gibran!- Where was this taken? I do have to agree, a nice winter-scape is indeed beautiful. My mom grew up in Baraga, and grandfather's side are all from up there. Oh the stories she tells about winter, indeed a different way of life. | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2944 Registered: 08-2007 |
The water isn't frozen, though, so it isn't really winter. ;) | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4576 Registered: 02-2007 |
I wish I took it, but it is Marquette near the beach. Shows what winter also brings. | ||
Margaret Member Username: Margaret Post Number: 254 Registered: 06-2007 |
let's get Bats kicked off this forum for good! show of hands? |
