1kielsondrive Member Username: 1kielsondrive
Post Number: 1104 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 1:52 pm: | |
One of the funniest photos I've seen in a while. And accurate too.
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Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23
Post Number: 4260 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 6:29 pm: | |
(Message edited by Bigb23 on March 22, 2009) |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 5139 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 6:49 pm: | |
EX-Pres. Bozo you mean. |
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23
Post Number: 4263 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 6:55 pm: | |
No- I mean Hoover villes, which makes my tent a hot commodity. Ebay + $100. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 6832 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 8:52 pm: | |
Speaking of Hoovervilles, this story was in today's Detroit News: Newly homeless occupy Sacramento's tent cityquote:The capital's tent city, sprawling messily on a grassed-over landfill, is home to some 200 men and women with nowhere else to go. It has been here for more than a year, but in the last three weeks it has been transformed into a vivid symbol of a financial crisis otherwise invisible to many Americans. The Depression had Hoovervilles. The energy crisis had snaking gas lines. The state's droughts have empty reservoirs and browned lawns. But today's deep recession is about disappearing wealth -- painful, yes, but difficult to see.... CeCe Walker, 48, back from coffee, breakfast and a shower at Maryhouse, a daytime shelter for women, lugged a bag of ice for a half-mile. "I've never camped in my life," she said, sorting through supplies damp from yesterday's melted ice. "This will make you old. I don't see how people want to live out here forever. God!" |
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field
Post Number: 1849 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 9:50 pm: | |
Bush wasn't a clown, he was a marionette whose strings were pulled by Dick (puppetmaster) Cheney and his neocon advisors. "Decider", my ass, he was more like a rubber stamp: "Over objections from the U.S. intelligence community, the White House is moving to declassify—and publicly release—three internal memos that will lay out, for the first time, details of the "enhanced" interrogation techniques approved by the Bush administration for use against "high value" Qaeda detainees. The memos, written by Justice Department lawyers in May 2005, provide the legal rationale for waterboarding, head slapping and other rough tactics used by the CIA. One senior Obama official, who like others interviewed for this story requested anonymity because of the issue's sensitivity, said the memos were "ugly" and could embarrass the CIA. Other officials predicted they would fuel demands for a "truth commission" on torture." ~snip~ "The debate about torture ramped up again last week with an account in the New York Review of Books about a secret International Red Cross report that was delivered to the CIA in February 2007. The report, according to journalist Mark Danner, quotes detainees describing, often in gruesome detail, how they were locked in coffin-size boxes; swung by towels around their necks into plywood walls; and forced to stand naked for days while their arms were shackled above their heads." Coming Soon: Declassified Bush-Era Torture Memos |
Mr_onion Member Username: Mr_onion
Post Number: 64 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 10:07 pm: | |
Its only Fair,
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Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19568 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 11:39 pm: | |
Looking backward again libs? |
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field
Post Number: 1850 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 12:52 am: | |
quote:Looking backward again libs? Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19531 Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 4:22 pm: Not the whole mess. Liberals over the last 80 years or so...including Carter in a larger way than most (but not all) of the villains in this story. Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19072 Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 9:26 pm: LBJ, FDR, Carter...to a lesser extent Clinton....these are the villains. Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 18992 Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 11:18 pm: Too shallow...the root is socialized housing via the CRA in the 70s (Carter). The root of that is creeping socialism...FDR/new deal in the 30s, and LBJ/great society in the early 70s.
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Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19589 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:30 pm: | |
Relevant history given our current situation economically. Not irrelevant bitter drivel regarding Iraq and the like. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19592 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:36 pm: | |
Left alone unless currently relevant concerns stem from that time. |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 3795 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:36 pm: | |
Wow. That's quite a bitchslapping you just received, Batz. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19594 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:40 pm: | |
An attempt easily shot down in 2 sentences. Not even a challenge. |
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field
Post Number: 1852 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:44 pm: | |
GOP had a majority Congress and Republican-lite in Bill Clinton in the mid-90s. They also held the executive office and Congress for most of the past 8 years. More than enough time to change whatever change they felt needed to be done. If the GOP caved to Democrats, then that is complicity and clearly weakness on their part. Reaching past even Reagan to put the blame on Carter or even further to FDR is not only ridiculous, but is also delusional as well. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19597 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:53 pm: | |
Dream on (me too). Rescinding and phasing out entitlements can be impossible. Notice some of them have been left in place for decades and through many administrations and congressional configurations. This is what is most concerning about about Obama. Reagan gives some hope for the future as a model of what can be done in a short period of time. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19598 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:53 pm: | |
Dream on (me too). Rescinding and phasing out entitlements can be impossible. Notice some of them have been left in place for decades and through many administrations and congressional configurations. This is what is most concerning about about Obama. Reagan gives some hope for the future as a model of what can be done in a short period of time. |
1kielsondrive Member Username: 1kielsondrive
Post Number: 1116 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:40 pm: | |
Okay Flanders, Bush was a marionette clown. Satisfied? |
1kielsondrive Member Username: 1kielsondrive
Post Number: 1117 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:43 pm: | |
Hey Flanders, nice picture. A right wing-nut neo con. Caught in action. |
1kielsondrive Member Username: 1kielsondrive
Post Number: 1118 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:44 pm: | |
Bigb, your clown photos continue to get better. |
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 1760 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:30 am: | |
Fine CC...if FDR is to Blame...I think Hoover had a part to play in this economic crisis...shit...Wilson and his damn League of Nations and entry into the Great War all but ended our policy of isolationism... |
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23
Post Number: 4278 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:42 am: | |
Don't let Cc rile you. He is what he is. A one sided barker. |
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field
Post Number: 1853 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 9:35 am: | |
quote:Relevant history given our current situation economically. The occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan are definitely relevant to our current economic situation.
quote:Not irrelevant bitter drivel regarding Iraq and the like. The inquiries, investigations, and release of information pertaining to the legitimacy/prosecution and the operations/management of them are certainly not irrelevant emotionally bitter drivel, but your response demonstrates an effort to trivialize them. Had the PNAC neocons in DC been correct on their well-publicized timeframes and the "reception" received in Iraq and Afghanistan, these invasions and subsequent occupations would have now long been finished and the troops withdrawn.
quote:Left alone unless currently relevant concerns stem from that time. Unfortunately, the statute of limitations hasn't run out on them yet Ccbatson, much as you would like them to be. Apparently those with far more power and authority than you have, will be making the decisions on what is currently relevant, and what isn't. (Message edited by Flanders_field on March 23, 2009) |
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field
Post Number: 1854 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:14 pm: | |
quote:Okay Flanders, Bush was a marionette clown. Satisfied? Come to think of it, I am wrong. You are correct 1kd, he is a clown, now that his strings have been cut from the executive office. Apparently we can soon see him perform solo under the big tent in SW MI, as well as his wif..er...former Secretary Of State Condi Rice: Bush, Rice Expected to Speak in Southwest Michigan |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 3799 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 1:34 pm: | |
"An attempt easily shot down in 2 sentences." Except you didn't shoot it down. Your post contained an implicit argument that people should avoid looking backward. Then, after flanders demonstrated how you were guilty of the same behavior, you tried to create an exception to your argument so that it wouldn't apply to your previous statements. Pretty transparent, Batz. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19604 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 3:41 pm: | |
Iraq and Afghanistan are trivial at most when it comes to the problems with our rapidly socializing economy. If anything, in the long run, the ousting of Sadaam, and the Taliban, will have been well worth the price in terms of our security (militarily and economically). |
1kielsondrive Member Username: 1kielsondrive
Post Number: 1127 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 12:05 am: | |
The most ever socializing of our economy happened in the waining days of the former President Bozo's administration. The right wing, neo-con, nut jobs managed to socialize all of our failed uni-partisan, pre-emptive, war efforts and costs as well as the 'free market' gambling losses of our elite, ruling, oligarchs, to the middle and lower classes. That's the kind of socializing the fundamentalists just love, and never own up to. Yep, it's really evil unless the money's flowing into the coffers of the ultra rich, which is the way it usually works. |
Ferntruth Member Username: Ferntruth
Post Number: 798 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 12:23 pm: | |
"Pretty transparent, Batz." Yeah, to everyone but him apparently. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19628 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 4:59 pm: | |
Correct Kielsondrive...GWB took a leap off the socialist cliff at the end there. Being a liberal, you must have started to like GWB at that point, right? |
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field
Post Number: 1867 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 6:06 pm: | |
"It's been a rough decade for the Small Business Administration. The Bush administration slashed its budget by more than half, and many of its most experienced and knowledgeable employees were let go. To make matters worse, multiple investigations have found evidence of waste, fraud, and abuse at the agency, which is supposed to help small businesses drive economic growth. On Wednesday, the embattled agency was dealt another blow when the Government Accountability Office revealed that the SBA's $8 billion program designed to funnel government contracts to small businesses in poor areas gave millions to companies that did not meet the legal requirements, including one that was "headquartered" in a trailer home occupied by someone unrelated to the company. Some of the owners of the "small businesses" in question admitted straight-out to the GAO that they were defrauding the SBA's HUBZone program by funnelling money to big businesses or businesses outside the zones." ~snip~ "Rep. Nydia Velasquez (D-NY), the chair of the House small business committee, has talked of shutting down the HUBZone program entirely. But Gunn says far more drastic measures need to be taken. "If the best they can come up with is to end the program then we're all in trouble," Gunn says. His organization is working on legislation with Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) to preclude publicly-traded companies from being counted towards the government's small business procurement goals. That move that would keep companies like Raytheon, Honda and 3M (and their subsidiaries), which have received federal small business contracts in the past, from receiving them in the future." Bush Leaves Legacy of Fraud and Abuse At Small Business Administration In less than four months, and likely just the tip of the iceberg of corruption, fraud, waste and criminal activities being exposed so far during the Chimp's administration.
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Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19707 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 12:48 am: | |
Here is a clue...look at the names of these bureaucratic entities..."small business administration". Government is not supposed to be administrating small, or any, businesses. |