Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 5140 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 1:33 pm: | |
quote:If 9 of the 16 who posted here are somewhere around or to the left of Kucinich and are representative of the Democrat Party, then why is it that Democrats choose candidates such as Hillary and Obama who are so much closer to the Republican clump than Democrat voters? I did vote for Kucinich, but apparently there are a lot of Dems more in the middle. The people posting here are not a representative sample. |
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 1753 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 1:34 pm: | |
Fun Fact 2: I didn't Vote for Obama, nor am I an Obama supporter or democratic sympathizer |
Mashugruskie Member Username: Mashugruskie
Post Number: 479 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 2:30 pm: | |
I'm a Democratic Centrist. I didn't vote for Obama, either. How did I end up a Communist? |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19584 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:18 pm: | |
Alan, look again, the top (not the right) is labelled fascistic (and not Naziism either). It also happens that the fascistic label is not correct on these grids. Russia IS NOT CAPITALISTIC. They are a failed socialistic system still struggling along as such. Who did you libs vote for if not Obama? McCain? |
Vic_doucette Member Username: Vic_doucette
Post Number: 177 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:48 pm: | |
Economic Left/Right: 0.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67 |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19596 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:49 pm: | |
An interesting, but flawed exercise. Is it changed from the earlier survey? |
Glowblue Member Username: Glowblue
Post Number: 196 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 8:04 pm: | |
quote:Russia IS NOT CAPITALISTIC. lol |
Gannon Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 9118 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 8:35 pm: | |
I thought Moscow was the Capital of Russia...how can you say 'it' isn't capitalistic?! |
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 1756 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 9:29 pm: | |
In the OlaBatverse...anyone on the left is a communist...Communism isn't a bad thing...I'm glad we're allowed to think for ourselves...The Democratic Republic where our elected officials care more about corporations than the voter...I love the republic... |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 7939 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 9:44 pm: | |
D_mcc, Please get it Right, according to Cc, We are liberal, collectivist, socialist, fascist, communists Thank g_d he's not a believer, otherwise, we would also be declared atheists |
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 1758 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 9:59 pm: | |
You're foolin' yourself! We're living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working class... we're an anarco-sydicalist commune. We take it in turns to be a sort of executive officer for the week...but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting... |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 7941 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:05 pm: | |
...but never the same meeting, Right? |
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 1759 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:06 pm: | |
but by a two thirds majority in the case of... |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 7942 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:13 pm: | |
...a quorum is not in attendance, therefore all actions taken will be retroactive,unless proactive... |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 6836 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:17 am: | |
Monty Python- The Annoying Peasant |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 794 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:21 am: | |
quote: If 9 of the 16 who posted here are somewhere around or to the left of Kucinich and are representative of the Democrat Party, then why is it that Democrats choose candidates such as Hillary and Obama who are so much closer to the Republican clump than Democrat voters? Because in some cases pragmatism trumps ideology |
Oladub Member Username: Oladub
Post Number: 1341 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 2:37 am: | |
D-mcc says, "In the OlaBatverse...anyone on the left is a communist..." 'Ola' as in oladub? Challenge. I do mention economic fascism but when was the last time I even mentioned Communists? Economic fascism, or corporatism, is when politicians, be they left or right do something like vote for Bush's wall Street bailout. Politicians, even those on the 'left' who vote the bankers' interests can't be called Communists. They can however be seen as corporatists. Now you can go off and find elsewhere where I called everyone on the left 'Communists". Firstandten, a reasonable answer. |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 8741 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 9:01 am: | |
interesting I'm almost exactly where the Dalai Lama is (Message edited by rb336 on March 23, 2009) |
Mopardan Member Username: Mopardan
Post Number: 272 Registered: 11-2008
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 9:11 am: | |
Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -4.12 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05 Not surprised...a friend once told me I was a "Demotarian". Most people fall somewhere around the middle; a little left to a little right. It's the extremists on each end of the spectrum who lecture us how to live or think, IE, Jesse Jackson & Rush Limbaugh. But as my dad told me, "Opinions & excuses are like a**holes: Everybody's got one." |
Bongman Member Username: Bongman
Post Number: 705 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:31 pm: | |
Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -4.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03 I am Gandhi ! |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19605 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 3:43 pm: | |
Well said Oladub. Notice that GWB is sqaurely in the crosshairs on the bailouts, as he should be. Were you a liberal, you would be defending Obama as he sold your liberty out in favor of bread lines (as he is endeavoring to do now) |
Oladub Member Username: Oladub
Post Number: 1343 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 7:45 pm: | |
I added the numbers or descriptions as best I could for most everyone through Bongman. Letters or numbers are assigned for everyone.
5 Alfiela---------P Raptor66 J Jcole-----------2 Rooms222 F Firstandten--6 6nois G Gannon-------A Jams Z Gazhekwe-----B Bearinabox O Oladub--------U Glowblue S Sknutson-----V Vic_doucette D D_mcc--------8 Rb336 I Jiminnm--------M Mopardan C CcBatson-----N Bongman Note the big clump in the SW quadrant which is further from the main group of Democratic candidates then the Democratic candidates are from the Republican candidates. |
Det_ard Member Username: Det_ard
Post Number: 56 Registered: 02-2009
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 9:13 pm: | |
I think the SW quadrant is very overrepresented on this forum relative to the real world out there. Nature of the beast apparently. |
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox
Post Number: 1339 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 10:53 pm: | |
quote:I think the SW quadrant is very overrepresented on this forum relative to the real world out there. You've been here a whole month and you're only now arriving at that conclusion? |
Glowblue Member Username: Glowblue
Post Number: 197 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 10:56 pm: | |
quote:I think the SW quadrant is very overrepresented on this forum relative to the real world out there. Nature of the beast apparently. Remember that coservatives left Detroit for dead decades ago, so it's unlikely you'd find many of them on a message board about the D. |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 8747 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 9:58 am: | |
Det_ard - look at the polls. all those SW quadrant issues have upwards of 60% support across the country |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19629 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 5:03 pm: | |
At least we (at Dyes) are closer to libertarian. Now we just need to shift way over to the right. |
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 1770 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 6:07 pm: | |
all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 4012 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 7:09 pm: | |
Guess I'm a middle-roader all the way.
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Alfie1a Member Username: Alfie1a
Post Number: 219 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 7:23 pm: | |
whew. Thanks for posting that Ray. Before you did, I was the only one on the north side. |