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Ccbatson
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Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 3:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

See the rules, a personal vendetta like that might get YOU kicked off.
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Bigb23
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Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 9:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How many days until Ccbatson hits the magic 20,000 mark ?

Guesses ? He is a legend in his own mind.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 12:12 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guesses? Math Bigb, no guesses necessary.
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3rdworldcity
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Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 8:36 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You non-thinkers want to kick CC off the forum because killing the messenger is your solution to what you consider bad news. It apparently makes you nervous to hear legitimate criticism of your beloved the-earth-is-falling climate change theories.
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Rb336
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Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:07 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry, i have yet to see any substantial post from him. for me, he is just comic relief, as is anyone who lets ideology trump truth and facts
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Gibran
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Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 4:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29 718962/wid=18298287

we all know that climates are in flux..they have been for a long time...but what the flatlanders don't get is that we also exacerbate the situation by pumping pollutants into the earth...if we dumped toxins into the water it would be polluted..and would effect our drinking water...why wouldn't pumping Co2 into our atmosphere cause a concurrent problem...?

the Great Lakes would be effected by droughts in the neigboring states...and in the midwest...the rising seas would effect the quality of life on our seaboard states...so if science can be the canary in the cave the time to listen is now...not when we have a perfect storm and say we should have listened...problem is that greed dictates morals and research...and it should be the opposite.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apologizing again Rb? As I have said before, there is no need to apologize for forfeiting points in a debate.
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Rb336
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 9:17 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when have I ever forfeited points in a debate to you? we've gone back and forth on this issue alone numerous times, I have supported my side with actual research EVERY time and you provide -- comic relief. the same is true of virtually everything else we've discussed here. the science is in -- you are wrong. there is no more real scientific debate on the main points -- global climate change/warming is a fact, it is caused by human activity, it will get more pronounced. where there is debate is what the result will be
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Gazhekwe
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 9:52 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Back to Lake Superior, you two. The weather up there is beautiful this week, 50 degrees and melting. I am betting the ice won't go out til Memorial Day or so, though. I'm heading up there tomorrow to take a look.

(Message edited by gazhekwe on March 17, 2009)
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Rb336
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 10:57 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i wonder what crawled into michigan over the ice this year?
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Flanders_field
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I haven't personally visited Lake Superior in decades, but I remember spending a couple of weeks one summer in the early 70s, when we camped and went fishing in Canada at some smaller inland lakes right above it. I remember a restaurant that we had breakfast at a couple of mornings in Wawa had a huge outside thermometer that recorded the historically highest and lowest temperatures there in degrees C and F, being 92 F in the summer and -62 F in the winter.


Wawa Lake Superior Webcam
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Detroitnerd
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 11:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I went to the Wawa Diner once in 1986. Had a huge goose out in front of it. (I guess Wawa means "goose" in some native tongue.) Cool diner. Kept the matchbook forever. It invited patrons to dine in their "viking room" (???). Had a picture of a viking with a falcon on his meaty fist. Vikings? :-)
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Flanders_field
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 11:44 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vikings?

Well...I do have relatives of Scandinavian descent who are from da UP eh? So I guess some [a dose] Norse Canadians could have crossed Lake Superior.

Like my mother, who also grew UP there, but she instead is of French Canadian descent, and a bit o' Irish as well, the latter of which I inherited the red tint in my hair and a smattering of freckles on my skin.

(Message edited by Flanders_field on March 17, 2009)
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Flanders_field
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 11:56 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Teh" Wawa Goose:





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Detroitnerd
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 11:59 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does that couple look a bit ... somber? :{
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Gazhekwe
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 12:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, wewe does mean goose in anishinaabemowin, once spoken from north and east of Lake Superior to the Great Plains and a good ways south of the Great Lakes.
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Flanders_field
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 1:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Does that couple look a bit ... somber?



Yeah, it looks like their heads are bowed, maybe they are from the US, and are mourning the fact that our goose here is cooked.
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Detroitnerd
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 2:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, it looks like their heads are bowed, maybe they are from the US, and are mourning the fact that our goose here is cooked.

Oh, Flanders. I'm laughing through the tears. :-)
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 4:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Photo taken the day after the recent Presidential election.
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Sarge
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 6:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This brings back a funny memory for me. In the late 80's, I was in the military and my mother would drop me a line from time to time to let me know what was going on back at home. In the summer of 1988, I gut a postcard from her with a picture of the Wawa Goose on the front. The back of the card read:

[Your stepfather] made us drive for hours and hours to see this STUPID GOOSE! I think this would be more than adequate grounds for divorce for most judges. Anyway, hope all is well with you. Love, Mom.
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Flanders_field
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Photo taken the day after the recent Presidential election.



You failed to upload one, Bats.

Was President-elect Obama photographed visiting Lake Superior?
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Ray1936
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 6:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Folks who like Fishtown in Leland might like to take a look at the Cove Camera. You can operate it, also, via your computer.

http://www.thecoveleland.com/l ivevideo.html
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 4:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Caption for the photo in Flanders 1818.
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Flanders_field
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Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 5:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^^^The image that I uploaded clearly displays a date/time stamp of Tuesday, March 17, 2009 at 9:01 am, and not Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:01 am.

Unless those humans are in fact statues, I doubt if they have been there for over four months.

Try again.
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Detroitej72
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Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 6:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bats didn't see the date and time because they are part of socialist agenda, everyone must set their clocks to the same time.

Everyone observing the same time = collectivism = bad!
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Jimaz
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Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Everyone observing the same time = collectivism = bad!

Good one.
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Detroitej72
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Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 11:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unfortunatly this will fly over Bat's head, as he will try to, somehow, tie Al Gore to this joke!
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 4:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Collectivism is not the actual phenomenon of people thinking alike. In fact, usually the opposite is true. It is the State oppressing people/individuals with the excuse being that it is for the collective good. Once the misery of this dynamic is felt by the individual members of this collective, they almost always resent it bitterly.
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Rb336
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Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 4:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ever been to a kibbutz, bats?
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Gazhekwe
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Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 11:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK, I'm back from the frozen north. Whitefish Bay of Lake Superior is still frozen to the shoreline. Snow is melting, but the ground is still well covered. My dad has about a foot and a half of snow in his yard, down from about four feet last week. It was in the 40s when I got there, but down in the 20s today.

The icebreaker was going through the Straits of Mackinac as I headed over the bridge on Wednesday. There is open water in places in the middle of the Straits.