  Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 261 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Line: Lions by 1 OU: 41 1/2 The Lions continue to implode as they face the Panthers at Ford Field. The media crosshairs aren't just on JO-EY anymore, as Mariucci is starting to take the brunt of having a loose grip on the team. Adding to the fire is Roy Williams' comments to SI about WR's "not trusting him and vice versa". Carolina is on a two game win streak, isn't without it's share of spotlight. Close wins against GB and ARI leave doubts on if the team can handle the tougher schedule that's to come. As for Sunday's game, the one unknown factor is fan support. The Lions perform better at home and even better when the fans are behind them. Detroit needs to get off to a good start in order to keep the fans going. If the defense stays hot, the Lions will come out of this as winners. CAR 24 DET 27 | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2524 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.206.179 |
Carolina 31 Detroit 6 | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 8987 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228 |
No way man, not with this defense all up in here. Mooch is pissing me off though, his lack of control of this team is leading to players going to the media, a la Roy Williams in the current SI. I don't think Mooch has EVER had control of this team since he arrived. I think that is very much a part of this teams problem, not the players. | ||
Atl_runner Member Username: Atl_runner Post Number: 1615 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.209.118.72 |
I think Czar is onto something here, and that Genesyxx is on something. Carolina 24 Detroit 10. Now, things will start to change after I trot onto Ford field after my 'projected' 26.2 mile stroll through Detroit next week. The Lions will run the table at home the rest of the way. Or not. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2525 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.206.179 |
I just think the inept Lion offense will keep the defense on the field a long time. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 538 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 66.89.12.30 |
Sport, provided this week is the end of it I think that stuff finally getting said will help clear the air so the team can get back to business. It was pretty obvious just watching the games there was a receiver/qb tiff going on. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1347 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Is there really a QB/WR tiff going on where one player is just out to screw the other one over?? Or is it just the fact that they're not on the same page yet? If anyone wants to look at totally dysfunctional QB/WR relationships- look at Terrell Owens & Donovan McNabb! Ouch there, but somehow they're still able to connect on the field. I think maybe what the Detroit team needs to do is just to be able to continually work at making that connection because it's mutually beneficial even if they aren't buddy buddies. | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 175 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 69.246.107.67 |
What happen to the cornbread lovers? Defense can when games. Monday Morning Headlines. Lions 21 Carolina 20 Dre Bly returns 2 interceptions for touchdowns. K.J. rushes 40 times for 89yards. Joey throws for 102yards 21 attempts 1 touchdown. aaaaaah the cornbread is hot__ pass the butter. super d(motordetroit) | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1349 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Ahhhh yes. Nice to see Super_d has the crystal ball out! Cornbread's might warm today! Studying to be a damas I see! | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 190 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
damas l? what's dat? Is that like cornbread? super d(motordetroit) | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1351 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
"damas" as in what Wojo on WDFN pretends to be. (as in Wojodamus, Nostradamas, etc..) | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 7549 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.71.64.43 |
I've said it before and I will say it again...piss poor coaching (Mooch has no control and is too much of a players coach for this young team). Disgusting offensive co-ordinator, and a weak QB. Carolina 27 Lions 9 | ||
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 263 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Not on anything that doesn't have a doctor's note attached. But here they'll be a team looking to prove that they have team chemistry. I might be a little generous on the score on both ends(CAR's RB's are hurting), but the Lions will still win it. They're out to prove something. | ||
Ltorivia485 Member Username: Ltorivia485 Post Number: 2009 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 129.105.104.223 |
Lions 21 Carolina 13 | ||
Ltorivia485 Member Username: Ltorivia485 Post Number: 2010 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 129.105.104.223 |
Lions 21 Carolina 14 | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 205 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 205.188.116.201 |
aaaaah damas___ I thought you typo'd dumb-ass(LOL). cornbread lovers all over Michigan....the oven is warming, and the cornbread is cooking! I got an idea___ let's get together and order some cornbread hats(ie; cheese head hats)__ and go to some games. We can start a new tradition at ford field__ god know it needs some tradition. We'll call it the Cornbread section and along with the hats we can all dress 70's style. super d(motordetroit) | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1353 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Who needs a Dogpound or RaiderNation when we have the Cornbread Kids? Or should that be Kornbread Kids? | ||
Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 630 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.170.57 |
Eastside likes conflict, conflict brings change...players becoming accountable to one another maybe? This is how the Lions take the next step. The crap that has been playing out in the media is the first manifestation of growing pains. I expect only positives from here on. BTW...aint this bum Harrington due for a good game? | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1354 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Eastside might be onto something. A little too much complacency and lack of accountability can be good. For the longest time people complained there was noo passion or fire that burned within the Lions belly-- well, I think there is now and what's wrong with being a little more demonstrative about it? As long as they can talk about it afterwards, be honest with their own play ane each others- I think they're fine. | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 274 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 198.109.44.2 |
Lions 21 Carolina 20 Thats the die hard in me. What this team needs is a front office overhaul. The Fords know nothing about putting a good front office together. They reward Matt for being less than mediocre. as long as the stadium fills and people are buying beer...all is fine. this city deserves a Superbowl caliber team. I fear that this will be the best team in the Mooch era...and that ain't saying to much. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 555 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.195 |
think we could get hot cornbread vendors? | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 289 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 198.109.44.2 |
By the way at halftime Carolina 14 Detroit 14 | ||
Darwinism Member Username: Darwinism Post Number: 170 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.209.179.33 |
Can't win games if only the defence shows up to play. Another pathetic display of offensive incompetency. Chris Weinke shows us how good backup QBs take care of business in the NFL. (Message edited by darwinism on October 16, 2005) | ||
Blessyouboys Member Username: Blessyouboys Post Number: 34 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.209.168.122 |
Joey can't get a TD in the last drive during the 4th quarter; settle for a FG, lose by a point. Why am I not surprised? | ||
Atl_runner Member Username: Atl_runner Post Number: 1624 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.209.118.72 |
That was beautiful. Blame list. 1. Joey Harrington. - No suprise. 2. Offense as a whole. Only a suprise if you are gradeing on their collectiver performance in college. 3. Head Coach. My god is he terrible. Noteable. Harrington had 247 ish yards. 90 of which should be credited to Pollard. That gives him 157 yards in my book. The offense generated.. well, scored 6 points. Therefore, goat wins the pick by virtue of his 27 to 9 guess. Super_d and Broken Main got the score reversed and because of their false hope in the lions, the picks are deemed void. The lions are teh suck. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2539 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 216.196.178.65 |
Sure glad the Fords gave Millen that contract extension. Locking up a losing record for another five years. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9021 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Czar, Seriously, drink a warm cup of "shut the fuck up." Have you seen our defense? This REMAINS one of the toughest defenses in the league, bar none. As for the offense, this is honest to god the first game in which I have decided, Joey is done. I totally expect Garcia in the game at some point next week. That being said, I don't think Joey is the whole problem. The problem lies in Mooch and his offensive coordinator. They can't call a game worth a shit. I mean seriously, all we had to do was pick up ten yards for a field goal and this game was won. Truly pathetic with such a defensive dominating game that the offense couldn't do shit. I mean come on, they D scored 14 goddamn points? You really wanna point the finger at Millen? This defense is the best I have ever seen as a Lions fan. QB's in this league are make or break coming outta college, Joey appears to be a break. Move on, let Millen work the same magic he's done with the offense. This team is just a QB away from being one of the best in the league....well that and a few offensive lineman. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2540 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 216.196.178.65 |
Poor little Sporty has his beer muscles working the keyboard again. Need I remind you that Millen drafted Harrington and hired Mariucci? And the defense is still a middle of the pack defense. They kept the Lions in the game today but they gave up an 80 yard TD and let the Panthers second-string QB come in cold and complete 5 of 7 passes and the game-winning score. (Message edited by czar on October 16, 2005) (Message edited by czar on October 16, 2005) | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 208 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
- Joey does just enough to stay away from blame! - The defense played just enough to take the blame! - go figure. cornbread sucks when it's cold___but stick it in the microwave and the butter will run right off the hot cornbread! Leo's still in 1st place in the central_aaaah north division. Leo's 2-3 Bears 2-3 Vikings 1-4 Packers 1-4 Keep the cornbread comm'in super d(motordetroit) | ||
65memories Member Username: 65memories Post Number: 219 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.220.69.140 |
"Joey does just enough to stay away from blame." Oh, really???!!! Super_d, what game were you watching? 17 of the 20 Lions' points were due to the superb defensive play. Joey, Steve, the offensive coordinator and the offensive line were clueless throughout the game. While I really like Joey as a person, the crowd reaction and the press this week will necessitate a QB change now. But next season: Stanton or Leinart? | ||
Publicmsu Member Username: Publicmsu Post Number: 534 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.65.20.89 |
Please do not let the Lions ruin drew stanton.. he's a wonderful quarterback, and if you bring him to Detroit, he's doomed to fail! | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9024 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Czar, beer goggles were not on at the time. So do you really expect a GM to be perfect? Yeah, so the QB looks to have been a bust. Possibly the coach as well. Yet I'm not sure why so many people are critical of the rest of what he has done. Did you not see the defense score TWO touchdowns? I can't even recall the last time I saw ANY NFL team do that. This defense is top notch, our offense sucks. | ||
Cheddar_bob Member Username: Cheddar_bob Post Number: 410 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 204.128.192.8 |
Good luck with Stanton. The person who sucks the most on this team is Jeff Backus. I had such high hopes for him, too. He is absolutely horrible, though. As far as Harrington goes, I cannot support him any longer. It is not totally his fault (again) because the O-Line is so horrendous, but he is not a very good NFL quarterback. He did lead his receivers better today, but I found myself thinking, "When is Garcia available again?" I'm completely distraught over the way this game played out. They should have won this game. (and the one in TB). | ||
Blessyouboys Member Username: Blessyouboys Post Number: 35 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.209.168.122 |
Not taking anything away from our defense but Goodman is horrible, gets picked on all game and gets beat everytime. Is Bryant gone for the season? | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9025 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Garcia should be available next week. I would be shocked if he didn't get in the game. Not that I honestly hold much more hope for him. This lack of offense has way more to do with the play calling that the actual offense itself. How many times are they gonna run a draw play on third and long? | ||
Dodgemain Member Username: Dodgemain Post Number: 55 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 68.41.191.58 |
It used to work with Barry S. | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 210 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
"65memories"__ in noooooooooway am I say'in 'blueskys' is blame free__but he did put them in position to win the game and kill the clock.(82 yard pass to put the lions on the 5yrd line and a pass that would have given them a first down and put them in field goal position went right in the hands of the receiver Martinez??(who) and he dropped it. The defense played great___up into the most important part of the game (the final drive). That's all I'm say'in. The blame as to go on the defense for not holding off an ex baseball player by the name of Wienke. Joey sucked for 35 minutes__ however Joey put the Lions in position to win, when the game was on the line. excuse me if I'm still smell'in tha' cornbread! super d(motordetroit) | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 1498 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.73.55.127 |
All I know is its not my fault. I'm not rooting against them this year. Five year extension for Millen? | ||
Dodgemain Member Username: Dodgemain Post Number: 56 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 68.41.191.58 |
Remember, Millen did not want Harrington. Ford made him draft him. This is not his fault | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 694 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 66.245.151.229 |
God dammit the Lions are pathetic. Always find a way to lose. | ||
Blessyouboys Member Username: Blessyouboys Post Number: 36 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.209.168.122 |
Not you needed more proof that Harrington blows balls, look at Az-Hakim in New Orleans; has had two consecutive games of nearly 100 yds. The Lions make me sick. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/ players/profile?statsId=4321 | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 295 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 198.109.44.2 |
Almost made the perfect prediction cept for the fact I got my teams reversed...check above^^^ LOL | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1356 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
We have an offensive line? Oh yeah... the way they played, it was mighty offensive. Shameful. I doubt if Marino or Montana could've salvaged a game with that kind of weak pass protection or run blocking. | ||
Bongman Member Username: Bongman Post Number: 786 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128 |
Blame it on Charles Rogers. At the end of last year, it was clear we needed offensive line help. It was a gimmee to support Jones running efforts....or so we thought. Instead we had to draft another reciever because Rogers' drug problems were already writing on the wall. When Rogers was suspended, Backus was quoted as saying, "he knew what he was doing." What that really meant was, "we knew what he was doing". What a lousy, spineless offensive line. Didn't you know when we settled for the field goal that we would lose ? It was written in stone. | ||
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 267 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Those boos at Ford Field made me sick. We can't even support our team for a couple of plays before that crap comes out. Admittedly, the O-Line should get two-a-days for the next 3 days, but in all it was a good game. Think of it this way... we're up high in our division... Or we could be the Vikings. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 1119 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.245 |
I will say one thing about the lions, Joey might not be good but I think everyone is fooling ourselves to believe a change in QB will help this offense. You can take every other QB in the league and put them on the lions we might have one more victory, I think maybe Vick would be successful only because he could run for his life. Offense to sum it up: Bad QB made worse by uncreative shitty coaching, horrible line, no running game and receivers that suck. Defense: Defense played well because they scored but when you give up 21 points you didn't play great. That D made Weinke look like a star and he only was throwing to a 40 year old receiver. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2541 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.172.170 |
"Bad QB made worse by uncreative shitty coaching, horrible line, no running game and receivers that suck." That sums it up nicely. And, again, the defense is keeping the Lions in games, but they are not the dominant force some forumers think. When Steve Smith caught that 80 yard TD pass, he was surrounded by five Lion defenders and he still went the distance. | ||
Atl_runner Member Username: Atl_runner Post Number: 1625 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.209.118.72 |
Teddy Lehman is also horrible. Just thought I'd throw that out there. I blame him for that 80 yard Steve Smith TD. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 1120 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.245 |
God i could rant forever about this team but I will sum it up this way. I don't want to hear the excuse that no one will play for this guy that is a bunch of shit. Last I look all the player are professionals, Joey doesn't write your checks and that jackass Mooch coaches the team. not one F***ing player signed on to play with Joey. Have some f***ing pride in your own play be a man and step the f***up. Stop waiting for Joey to make the play and make one your F***ing self. Won't play hard for Joey a bullshit excuse to make yourself feel better because you suck ass. | ||
Bongman Member Username: Bongman Post Number: 787 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128 |
But Alt....What the hell is a linebacker doing covering their best receiver ? I still have to give Joey credit for being able to take a hit. Garcia won't last two games out there with that line. Kevin Jones getting only 21 yards speaks for itself. | ||
65memories Member Username: 65memories Post Number: 221 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.238.170.50 |
Super_d You're right...with this loss, there's enough that went wrong for everyone to take some blame. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 7559 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.228.67.104 |
All I can say is "typical Lions". Having a crappy administration will kill any team regardless of talent! Mooch does NOT have a creative bone in his body! Why even bother throwing the ball 4 yards on a 3 and 12? 5 yards to the end zone and what does he do? Up the middle, up the middle! PATHETIC. Terrible O-line (laughing my ass off at Raiola giving shit to Harrington. Yet, who is Raiola? One of the worst on the line.) Terrible QB. Receivers who won't try, and now defensive players getting tired of the BS of the offense. Bly sure as hell didn't sound happy, (does he have more TD's than Joey?) But I digress. Unitl this team gets serious and PROFESSIONAL, until this coach grows some balls and reigns in his players, this season will be a wash. BTW: The Bears are in first due to their win over Detroit. | ||
Blessyouboys Member Username: Blessyouboys Post Number: 42 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.209.174.189 |
"Mess in Motown" http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/ columns/story?columnist=smith_ michael&id=2194878 | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 7570 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.156.94.54 |
A scathing but true report on the Lions. Does Mooch really have a clue or is he in love with Harrington? Hard to tell...but maybe they should get a room. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2544 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.162.173 |
Looks like it's time for another house cleaning: general manager, coach and a chunk of the roster. Of course it won't happen. Has any other sports franchise cleaned house and then needed to do it again four years later? Thank you Ford family for your lack of sports business acumen. | ||
Bongman Member Username: Bongman Post Number: 791 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128 |
A big sarcastic thank-you to the local sports media for giving us that inside scoop on Mike Williams. I always knew Ohara was a kiss ass. How long did the media know about Charles Rogers before the 3rd positive test spilled the beans ? Who is covering for who in this town, and how much are they paying them off ? Looking forward to games that don't sell out so I can watch some real football. | ||
Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 633 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.170.57 |
...what does this guy know, just read the first paragraph again. |
