  Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 272 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Line: CLE by 3 OU 34 1/2 With all eyes on the Lions and their yearly QB controversy, the Browns look to take advantage of the confusion among it's starters. Defense makes the plays that cover up their mistakes, mainly with coverage, but the offense has to make a stride. This may be Joey's "try-out" game to prove all the nay-sayers wrong, but Kevin Jones will be looked onto breaking 100 yards rushing to make this a close contest. If protection is as bad as it was last week against Carolina, this game will drag.... Cleveland, on the other hand, isn't doing much better off. Last in the AFC North and near the bottom in both total offense and defense, Dilfer will have to rely on mismatches and bootleg plays if it plans on getting down the field. Reuben Droughns will have his work cut out for him and might not break 30 yards rushing in this contest. This looks to be a good matchup for the Lions, as they'll get a break against strong teams, but the distrust in the locker room will definately lead to problems on the field. I'll be at the game with my KJ jersey, so I hope I don't get jumped. LOL DET 10 CLE 13 Other NFC North games: Green Bay (1-4) @ Minnesota (1-4) 1 pm FOX ODDS: off the board (daym, that's cold) Baltimore (2-3) @ Chicago (2-3) 4:15 pm CBS ODDS: CHI by 1 | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2550 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.200.28 |
Cleveland 2 Detroit 0 in OT. | ||
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 273 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
If that goes down czar, they should cut in with Buffy re-runs. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 7579 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.228.195.122 |
Lions 16 Cleveland 10 Harrington gets yanked for Garcia in second quarter. | ||
Evelethcdenver Member Username: Evelethcdenver Post Number: 22 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 63.227.46.127 |
Anyone going to the game this weekend? My friends and I will be tail-gaiting at about 10:00 am in the parking lot. Stop by for a beer. | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 256 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 69.246.107.67 |
Cornbread pipe'in hot this week ya'll Mondays headlines Lions 42 Browns 6 Joey bust out with best game of career, 25 of 36 for 365yards passing, 1 int. Jones 15 rush, 89 yards. Garcia sits and waits. The skillet is hot, the cornbread is baking....ahhhh yeah! passsss tha butt'a super d(motordetroit) | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 7587 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.71.65.98 |
Everytime Super_d yells cornbread! The Lions lose. STOP!! These little cubs need all the help they can get. | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 257 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 69.246.107.67 |
"Goat" you know we all like that pipe'n hot cornbread! Quit Front'in(LOL). The cornbread will be so hot', that the 'Dog-pound will burn their tonques! I'm telling you the Leo's will play their best game of the season.(mark ma' words). super d(motordetroit). | ||
Aaron Member Username: Aaron Post Number: 72 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.241.224.171 |
Lions 10 Browns 7 Harrington: 11-26, 88 yards, 2 int. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 7589 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.228.210.126 |
Hope so, Super_d, hope so! | ||
Blessyouboys Member Username: Blessyouboys Post Number: 45 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.209.165.212 |
Lions: 17 Browns: 13 Harrington plays entire game because Garcia's not ready yet | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 258 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 64.12.116.195 |
Espn just reported Garcia will start Sunday. super d(motordetroit) | ||
The_rock Member Username: The_rock Post Number: 903 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.42.251.225 |
Bring back Milt Plum for either team. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2558 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 216.196.130.49 |
With Garcia in the lineup, I'm revising my prediction: Lions 16 Browns 13 | ||
Old_southwest Member Username: Old_southwest Post Number: 76 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.149.72.160 |
Lions 21 Browns 35 All of Detroit's points will come from the defense. | ||
Knocturnal Member Username: Knocturnal Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 24.176.50.206 |
Garcia looks more comfortable with the offense than Harrington does...liked that lil' pitch to Bryson in the 3rd too...something Harrington could never think of | ||
Atl_runner Member Username: Atl_runner Post Number: 1634 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.137.9 |
What a difference.. enough said. | ||
Knocturnal Member Username: Knocturnal Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 24.176.50.206 |
the only thing i must take into consideration is that its only the browns...but for being only 70% or whatever he sure looked poised and had the trust of his teammates | ||
Blessyouboys Member Username: Blessyouboys Post Number: 48 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.209.186.66 |
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Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1360 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
From what I saw was Garcia's ability to improvise today- which won us the game. Hooray. But does that say much about our coaches now? If we had a great plan in place, our QBs (Garcia or Harrington) shouldn't have to improvise so much, right? And not to mention how many time outs did Garcia have to burn just because he had the plays called into him late? While I'm happy they won over the Browns, I'm more suspect of the coaching staff now. And the litany of injuries today doesn't look good at all- far too many key players going down. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2559 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 216.196.130.49 |
Considering he only took half the reps in practice this week and he isn't 100% healthy yet, he played OK. A full week of practice and next week's game should show what he's capable of doing. | ||
Ltorivia485 Member Username: Ltorivia485 Post Number: 2067 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 129.105.104.218 |
OK The Lions won. At least they're first in the NFC League now. lol | ||
Rusty Member Username: Rusty Post Number: 327 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 206.165.183.154 |
I was unable to watch the game.......who else got injured this game? | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 261 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
Come on cornbread lovers! We won Geeeez! The Leo's won a game they were suppose to win__ Plus they are without 3 top receivers and KJ is only about 40% well. The cornbread is hotter than ever__ so slice you a piece, add a chunk of butter and smell that pipe'n hot cornbread! Hey "Goat" ya smell'in the cornbread now!(lol) Leo's 3-3 Bears 2-3 Vikings 2-4 Packers 1-5 super d(motordetroit) | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9086 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Kevin Johnson ruptured his achilles and is out for the season. Dre Bly dislocated his wrist, can't imagine he'll miss a game. Shaun Rogers injured his knee and left the game as well. Once again Lions seem to be dropping like flies due to injury. | ||
The_rock Member Username: The_rock Post Number: 906 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.42.251.225 |
Mooch nearly blew it with his call for a "draw" with 3rd and 16 with 10 minutes to go. A draw. Dumb play, real dumb play. We needed 16 yards, coach. We made 6 yards and had to punt. A completed pass could have netted a first down and we would have maintained ball control. Maybe even a td, too. No more San Francisco coaches please. Nice guys but not great coaches. First it was Monte Geralds, now we have Mooch. Nice guys come in last. | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 264 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
"The_rock" This is the NFL__ not many guaranteed plays in the play book for 3rd and 16___ sometimes you have to play smart and use the field and ---hey here's a great idea--- trust yo' defense! super d(motordetroit) (Message edited by super_d on October 23, 2005) | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2560 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 216.196.183.160 |
The draw on third and long is straight out of the Wayne Fontes playbook. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1362 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
The third and long is a very smart & safe play. If it was that easy to automatically think that you could just lob it over for the 16+ yards everytime then everyone would be doing it. There are certain times when it's best to get what you can out of it (and maybe break the 16+ yards needed). You assume we can snag the first down like it was stealing candy from a baby. Sometimes you have to play for field position as well. Who knows? Sometimes you can catch a defense in its nickel/dime package and catch them offgurad AND obtain the 16+ yards on a draw. It's all a tactical move- play the percentages and like super_d says; it's NEVER a guaranteed play that you can obtain the first down. After saying that, do I still think Mooch is too conservative in his play calling? You bet! But I don't think this was one of those moments when he wimped out. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9087 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
I would also like to note that this defense had 3 interceptions (almost 4 if the other db didn't knock the ball loose) and 3 sacks. I gotta wonder if Garcia can carry this on until he gets all his starting recievers back. If he can, watch as the offense on this team truly begins to blossom. | ||
Sid Member Username: Sid Post Number: 413 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.73.3.251 |
sport you are such a lionesss beaatttch. help yourself..... they beat cleveland. put them against indy, what's the spread? -49? | ||
Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 636 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.170.57 |
I will pray that Garcia can make it through the season injury free. Garcia has cast iron balls...Harrington a frick'in vagina. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1367 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Regardless of what the Lions QB has between their legs, my attention is still going to be focused on the play calling of the coaching staff now. Harrington, while not blameless by ANY stretch had to face the three toughest defenses in the league. Was he set up to fail? Maybe. Could Garcia have done better at QB during those three games? Maybe. DId Garcia win against the fourth lousiest defense in the league in Cleveland? Yes. Could Harrington have won? Maybe. I think what Garcia did to win the game was something that no coach could implement. He ad-libbed and winged it the majority of the game. I want to see the same kind of imagination from Mooch now; manage the clock better, go down field more, be much more aggressive on defense (especially next week vs. Chicago & Kyle Orton) and give the Lions a chance to win. | ||
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 276 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Well right score, wrong outcome. I'm glad Garcia finally got the start and didn't disappoint IMO. To work with a depleted WR core and not give up any INT's or sacks... and move like a freakin gazelle against rushing LB's..... that says a lot. Defense beat the Lions and Garcia helped. Mainly because even though Garcia did a really good job at the helm, the Lions still couldn't get in a good groove. Off. coordinators couldn't get the plays in timely, not really adjusting to Garcia's style (aren't these the same guys he worked with in San Francisco? WTF). The O-Line wasn't used to having someone actually stay in the pocket for a minute, and wide-outs weren't really used to having to come back to the LOS, as they were used to giving up on the play in 4-6 seconds. I hate that we're losing so many people now (Kevin Johnson out for the year, Bly is scheduled for surgery). Guess that Lions injury curse just keeps going on. | ||
The_rock Member Username: The_rock Post Number: 909 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.42.251.225 |
Super-d/ smogboy--- Gotta admit that third and long ain't easy. And the defense was doing well. OK-we won, we needed a victory, we got it and its time to prepare for the Bears. I assume that Jeff will start for the Lions, Jim McMahon for the Bears. | ||
Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 638 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.170.57 |
What Garcia did to win the game was control the ball by moving the chains, converting many key third downs, keeping the defense off the field thus keeping them fresh to control the game in the 4th quarter. We can talk about "maybe" all day long...but Harrington blows and I hope I never see him start another game for the Detroit Lions. He never gave us a chance to win while he was in there. Harrington lacks mental toughness...he has no gusto...no "tour de force." In other words, he's a pussy...and the Lions offensive backfield is forever forward a "no-wuss" zone. | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1024 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
One big difference...Fontes gave the ball to Barry Great win, but let's keep this in persepctive -- (1) They beat an awful Cleveland team (2) They scored 13 points (3) They beat an awful Cleveland team (Message edited by dabirch on October 24, 2005) | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2561 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.190.86 |
No one's printing the Super Bowl tickets yet. Garcia gives them a better chance to win but this team still has lots of holes, and now lots of injuries. If they lose to the Bears on Sunday, the Bears will have the inside track to the division title. | ||
Jtw Member Username: Jtw Post Number: 39 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 12.159.32.66 |
.....and Barry either was either stuffed in the backfield or broke the play for a 30 yard gain. barry was great, but barry was also a drive-killer. | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 265 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 64.12.116.195 |
"Jtw" stated,"...barry was great but was also a drive-killer! You kidd'in___ right??? super d(motordetroit) | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1373 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
We'll see what kind of depth we have now with all of those injuries. |
