  Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 5135 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.42.168.211 |
Police say more and more dealers taking refuge in Oakland With the weekend execution-style slaying of a convicted drug dealer in Farmington Hills, some local officials are being extravigilant in the war on crime in the suburbs. Farmington Hills Police Chief William Dwyer said drug dealers from Detroit are moving into the suburbs to enjoy amenities such as good neighborhoods and schools. But their high-risk lifestyles are butting up against Oakland County's safe streets. http://www.theoaklandpress.com /stories/120605/loc_2005120603 .shtml | ||
Gdub Member Username: Gdub Post Number: 909 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.15.192 |
Sowing the seeds of white flight. | ||
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 425 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 66.155.143.238 |
I thought the "runners" have been in the burbs for several years now. Didn't think this was something new. | ||
Mrsjdaniels Member Username: Mrsjdaniels Post Number: 124 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 70.233.2.43 |
not surprising...i knew this was a hit when i heard what happened.. i know dealers in canton | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 41 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.48.152 |
Drug lords have always lived in the white suburbs,and the dealers live in the inner-city. Wehere the unempoloyment rates is high,the homeless have no place to stay,and the uneducated think they know everything.This forum subject can mis-lead the topic in the wrong direction,and if I was reply to someone's request to explain my post....the answer will not be well liked or accepted from you suburbanites. | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 608 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131 |
Whiteboy Rick comes to mind. http://www.detnews.com/2005/me tro/0503/26/D02-128735.htm | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 609 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131 |
Maserati Rick Carter http://www.geocities.com/jiggs 2000_us/Maseratirick.html Y.B.I (Young Boys Inc.) http://www.geocities.com/jiggs 2000_us/youngboysinc.html Chambers Brothers http://www.ndsn.org/sept95/boo krev2.html ^very interseting | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 611 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131 |
Demetrius Holloway http://www.geocities.com/jiggs 2000_us/holloway.html Edward Hanserd http://www.geocities.com/jiggs 2000_us/Hanserd.html All of the 80's gangs http://www.geocities.com/jiggs 2000_us/ethnic.html | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 395 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
'Psip' we needed this info' a while back on the "Detroit steet-gang thread". Nevertheless very good info__thanks super d(motordetroit) | ||
Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 713 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.170.57 |
Baddest dude of that era...Lodrick(Hitman)Parker | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 612 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131 |
Looks like we overloaded that site. I wish I would have saved those pages. or reposted them here | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 6160 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 216.203.223.67 |
A shooting in Farmington. Of course it is the fault of Detroit. Can we attribute some of the drug related murders in Detroit to the users that come from the burbs? Said half in jest but why is it that we can only akcnowledge bad that comes from Detroit but not the fact that part of the drug trade is fueled by the 4-5 million outside of the city. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4524 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 141.213.175.233 |
Jt1, why would anyone even argue with that? Absolutely true that many suburbanites go to Detroit for their stash. But it's reasonable to argue that Detroit should bear some responsibility as well based on the fact that the dealers seem to be able to stay in business within the city limits. It's a two-way street. | ||
Ltorivia485 Member Username: Ltorivia485 Post Number: 2224 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 199.74.87.131 |
This is OLLLLDD NEEEWWS. Just like gangs in suburbs is common knowledge as well. People need to stop being in denial. Nowhere is cookie-cutter safe anymore. Inequality breeds poverty and violence, even in the 'burbs. | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 848 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.142.86.133 |
Reason number 23409582734092374895 not to get involved in gangs or drugs. No matter where you live. | ||
Toolbox Member Username: Toolbox Post Number: 764 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 65.196.220.198 |
Jt1 you should ask CL that question. | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 613 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131 |
Quite by accident, today, I found a 1980 tape of the arrest of Frank Usher. If anyone would like to have a copy of it, please fire off an email to PSIPdetroit at Gmail dot com. I will send you a Quicktime movie of it. (It is actually a WDIV 11PM newscast, with the news intro and a few commericials. Lots of fun to see. Correction, Its the Perp Walk over to Recorders court for arrainment. (Message edited by Psip on December 07, 2005) | ||
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal Post Number: 454 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 69.14.76.187 |
So, last night I read through the info on all these guys that were mentioned. But there wasn't much on White Boy Rick. Yet, he seems to be mentioned everywhere. Googling his name has alot of links, but they are all in relation to Kid Rock. He seemed to have been the out-of-town connect, but the lack of information leads me to believe he was just a henchman? | ||
Toolbox Member Username: Toolbox Post Number: 767 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 65.196.220.198 |
White Boy Rick was a burubanite. His old man was money and spent a ton of it trying to keep his kid out of jail. Try searching Rick Wersche Richard Wersche Seems he was just busted selling stolen cars from prision. | ||
Shave Member Username: Shave Post Number: 975 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 216.69.223.249 |
All of these drug dealers are losers in life. Nothing going for themselves so they resort to systematically dismantling neighborhoods, communities, and cultures (look at the state of Black American culture today--clearly they have left an indelible mark on our culture) . And for what? Fast cars, fast women, and an even faster route to prison (the only good that comes out of this if I must say so myself). Eastside's comment sent me hurling. No drug dealer is "bad" in a good way. Rather, they are bad in every sense of the word. (Message edited by Shave on December 08, 2005) | ||
Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 715 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.170.57 |
Parker was not a drug dealer...he got rid of them. | ||
Shave Member Username: Shave Post Number: 977 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 216.69.223.249 |
***Puzzled*** Guess I will never understand da 'hood. | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 51 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.45.233 |
Let's get real on this topic,and stop pointing fingers and being in denial. The drug dealers will stay in business just as long as people buy their product.Drugs is everywhere there's no where to escape from drugs.Even if the AFT or DEA ride down on a drug dealer or runner,that person will be set free within a fews hours,and right back at doing the same shit.Again most drug dealers is in the game to front,and to make money from the users.Shave the Hood is a place where anything goes,and most white suburban customers don't mind coming across 8 mile,or Telegraph to buy what they need,and return home IF they don't get caught.Most real gangsters and drug dealers started off by buying drugs from a suburbanite,and will work for them until they can buy themselves out,and to me drugs is a way to kill of the Black race without shooting them. The black hoods are the ones who seem to always get busted,when there is drug dealers living in West Bloomfield Hills,Farmington Hills,Rochester,and Clawson who never get busted or due time.While black on black crime (including drugs) is killing us Blacks off,whites risk getting their cars hijacked,getting robbed,getting their brains beat out,and other crimes happening to them due to the fact they come into Detroit to buy drugs. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1814 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130 |
So now what will the white flight go further north or will they come back to Detroit? | ||
English Member Username: English Post Number: 465 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.3.66 |
I vote further north and west. They really DON'T mind moving up into the trackless wastes of the state. Although if you don't want to be around diversity, my thing is, there are at least a dozen states where there are zero people of color, gays, and other "undesirables". Don't worry, we're not going to join you in Montana or Northern Idaho any time soon... | ||
Shave Member Username: Shave Post Number: 978 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 216.69.223.249 |
Mellodrama, Jr. aka William_x: I am a proponent of personal and social responsibility. This is a trait that ALL drug dealers/pushers lack. Your attempts at HUMANIZING these beasts are very weak. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 2711 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
Beasts? Anyway, as usual, the media is years behind the issue. They usually are on social issues. This has been happening for years/decades, now. | ||
Shave Member Username: Shave Post Number: 979 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 216.69.223.249 |
OK, I'll give you that one, Lmichigan. "Beasts" is very harsh. How about low-life POS? | ||
Shave Member Username: Shave Post Number: 980 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 64.12.116.195 |
"Don't worry, we're not going to join you in Montana or Northern Idaho any time soon..."--English English, I don't know if you have had an opportunity (or the desire) to visit these areas. There really exists some of the most beautiful landscape in America. Though not very diverse, I think that you would be pleasantly surprised. Black Americans are represented in every area of the United States believe it or not. | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 52 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.12.74 |
(Shave) Mellodrama, Jr. aka William_x: I am a proponent of personal and social responsibility. This is a trait that ALL drug dealers/pushers lack. Your attempts at HUMANIZING these beasts are very weak. I am a long ways from being who you think I am Shave,and you must be one of them posters who assume alots of time,and really don't know or give a damn if you're right or wrong.Who is Mellodrama anyways Shave? I guess Mellodrama must be a straight up poster who post things against your expectations huh? | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 1593 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.24.3 |
Shave, shame on you for calling William_x Mellodrama! William_x has been very respectful of other forumers. While we all may not agree on all aspects of the turmoils of urban living, William_x has not resorted to the name calling and belittling that Mellodrama did during his/her short but tumultuous "reign of terror" posting here (ended right after the '05 election). William_x, I don't agree with everything you say, especially since you read the Michigan Citizen!  But having a sensible discussion is one way for Detroiters and suburbanites to better understand and respect each other. And as for the Ad Hominem Drama Queen.... maybe someone dropped a house on her! | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 408 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 69.246.114.51 |
'Shave' and 'William_x' lets not forget the impact of the market culture on black life contributiong to the devastation of transfering our neighborhoods into 'hoods' and 'spots'. The market invasion along wit' the ugly drug invasion has transformed our once nuturing, caring, loving, self respecting, communities into sometimes uncivil combat-war zones. Yes, the drug dealers are an acute vexation to our villages__ however, we should demand our 'so-called' black leadership to bear some of the responsibility of this situation. We also have to factor in the social misery cast upon our neighborhoods by the use of historical arbiturary powers such as, the goverment and economic institutions. Also the denials of white supremacy bears responsibilty for there contributions of unfair justice in policing the drug trade in our communities__ It is no secret that (we)Blacks consume a mi-nute fraction of illegal drug comsumption in america, however we suffer from an unbalanced proportion of drug convictions.(what's a brotha' pose' ta' do once this happens). So 'shave' before we cast the blame and name-call these "prisoners of war" or as america has sarcastically named them 'gangbangers'we should carefully consider some of americas major culprits of americana democracy. super d(motordetroit) | ||
Shave Member Username: Shave Post Number: 981 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 216.69.223.249 |
My apologies to William_x. Thanks Super_d. As always, point well taken. | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 55 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.105.159 |
Thanks Shave apology accepted. | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 856 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.142.86.133 |
I am from Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Grew up there, so maybe I can chime in. Unfortunately I lived about 5 miles from the former Aryan Nations compound in Hayden Lake. It is no longer there. The general acceptance when they were around was that as long as they didn't do anything to the community, the community let them do their thing on their own property. Idaho is great in that people don't intrude much on other's property rights. But Shave is right. It is indeed one of the most beautiful places I've ever experienced. It is also incredibly white. In fact, I don't think there was 1 minority that I can think of in my high school. And I didn't graduate all that long ago (1999). Even Spokane is nearly all white. But come up some time, no matter your ethnicity. People up there don't care what color your skin is (at least the ones you'll run into, the mountain men don't really come down from the hills much ) and you'll meet some of the friendliest people in the country. If you love to golf, I highly recommend the Coeur d'Alene Resort Course. World's only floating golf green on one of the 5 most beautiful lakes in the world. Wonderful place to raise a family, especially if you like outdoor activities too. http://www.cdaresort.com/ http://www.coeurdalene.org/ http://www.schweitzer.com (I've heard the snowmobiling is amazing, but can definitely recommend the skiing) Come on up sometime! | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 857 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.142.86.133 |
Oh, but don't think you'll get away from the drug dealers. Meth labs are unfortunately widespread. The cops continually stuggle to find them. I actually knew 1 of these kids, though not personally. Still a crazy story.... http://www.rollingstone.com/ne ws/story/_/id/7683923/?rnd=113 4199425733&has-player=true&ver sion=6.0.11.847 | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 59 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.48.151 |
I was born in the south (Winston Salem N.C),and came to Detroit at the age of 3,and left Detroit for Oakland Calfornia at the age of 21,where I joined the Black Panther movement,and I came back to Detroit 10 years ago.Today I am an associated member of the Panthers here in Detroit,but I am more so in the Community Activist mode,and still I fight against racism,bad politics,and human rights.We will never eliminate drugs from the streets,due to the fact that our law enforcers is involved in the game.So who do we trust?,and just talking about it,or glorifying drug dealers won't change anything. | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 419 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
BLACK POWER! to ya' ma' brotha' William_x, and keep up the good work of those oringinal 'bad brothas' from the movement of the 60's. htt://www.bobbyseale.com/phototour/i ndex.html Eldridge Clever Fred Hampton Huey Newton Bobby Seale Mark Clark Elbert Howard H.Rap Brown and the rest of the original Black Panthers. super d(motordetroit) | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 61 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.48.115 |
Super_D " Black Power " salute to you also. here is our current site which is located here in Detroit. www.THEBLACKPANTHERNATION.org check it out. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4549 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 141.213.175.233 |
You fight against human rights? Man, that's wonderful. Keep up the good work. | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 3116 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.79.116.101 |
Suburban kids come into Detroit for the liquor and dope, while the detroit kids come into the burbs to steal cars and buy sneakers. | ||
Jltyler Member Username: Jltyler Post Number: 195 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 70.236.187.80 |
No I'm pretty sure the detroit kids stay in the city to steal cars, just ask anyone paying full coverage insurance. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 2724 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
Patrick, that isn't the best generalization, especially with an issue so complicated. A filter between the brain and the mouth is always a helpful thing. | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 63 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.48.115 |
the_aram The last part of that post you seem to have got your jollies.I meant to say FOR human rights. | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 64 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.48.115 |
LMichigan I have been on this site and forums a few weeks now,and I can't understand why Patrick and a few more seem to always like to point a finger.Believe it or not we post our asses off on this board,but I know for a fact that some of the posts on here would never solve the problem between the inner-city and the suburbs,and if anything it will keep the anger going. | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 421 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 64.12.116.195 |
'William'_x, you will very soon, get use to some of the 'sempiternal clerihew' offered by tha' white forumers on this site__ as they will quickly reveal that the vast majority of sub-urban-whites are racist, either conciously or unconsciously. super d(motordetroit) | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 67 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.48.91 |
Thanks super_d for the 411 on these posters,and I see your point already.I won't throw bricks at certain screen names I have noticed since I been around these past few weeks,and believe me I am a true Detroit Homeboy,and I don't play that racist BS.We can post all damn day,but I hate it when white suburb think that they're GOD,and think they can get by me bashing Detroit.The less they flood our freeways the better we (the inner-city) will be. | ||
Hagglerock Member Username: Hagglerock Post Number: 179 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 12.214.243.76 |
"white forumers on this site_as they will quickly reveal that the vast majority of sub-urban-whites are racist, either conciously or unconsciously." What about the other way around? Come on man, it takes two to fight and comments like those set back SE Michigan and this forum, both of which we love. Please don't believe that if someone doesn't agree with you or calls you out on something then that automatically makes him/her racist. Detroiters are supposed to have thick skin, right? | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 3117 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.79.123.146 |
Lmich, it's called sarcasm...go figure. You really have no sense of it do you? | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 75 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.105.108 |
(Hagglerock) What about the other way around? Come on man, it takes two to fight and comments like those set back SE Michigan and this forum, both of which we love. Please don't believe that if someone doesn't agree with you or calls you out on something then that automatically makes him/her racist. Detroiters are supposed to have thick skin, right? Hagglerock You can post whatever you feel that you need to share.However why do white suburbanites wait until something is said about their reaction to racism,and then they want to point the finger? Its not the point about being dis-agreed with,its the solution that comes out of the dryer after the wash,and we all have senses enough to see that racism is from both sides.I see all this hell raising on here and never seen a solution from both Blacks and Whites. | ||
Llyn Member Username: Llyn Post Number: 1275 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206 |
"Although if you don't want to be around diversity, my thing is, there are at least a dozen states where there are zero people of color, gays, and other "undesirables". Don't worry, we're not going to join you in Montana or Northern Idaho any time soon..." Clearly you are not familiar with the fact that northwestern Montana has two large Indian "reservations", nor the kind of crap that has gotten pulled on these peoples. "_ as they will quickly reveal that the vast majority of sub-urban-whites are racist, either conciously or unconsciously." Did you take a poll? What the hell does "vast majority" mean? Maybe it's just the people I know, but most of them in the suburbs are NOT even unconsciously racist. (Message edited by llyn on December 11, 2005) | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 2728 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
I thought I'd never see the day when we'd have a mini-Black Power rally, here. lol Now, all we need to do is get Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Louis Farrakhan, and Bill Cosby and we've got ourselves a party covering all of the bases. | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 422 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
'Lmichigan', if there ever would be a 'Revolution' of sort, which side would you be on....no need to respond__ just a thought__you confuse me at times. super d(motordetroit) | ||
Hagglerock Member Username: Hagglerock Post Number: 181 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 12.214.243.76 |
with you on that one.^^ few are in her(female right?) league when it comes to the written form of sarcasm. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 2732 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
Super d, I'd hope that I'd be on the right side. And, I'd hope you'd only wish for the same. I choose many things as they come to me, and THEN make my decision. I've always been bad at holding grudges, with a few exceptions, of course. Holding the proverbial chip on one's shoulder is never preferable. | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 90 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.45.73 |
LMichigan Sure come on over to our side.We have Super_d,ilovedetroit,and a few others who is cool including myself,and the smooth thing about our side we don't get mad we get even. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 2733 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
I don't care to "get even," but thanks for the offer. Revenge is petty belief and practice, and is the only real fuel for militants of any group. I'd like to think that I think for myself, and side with what is right most of the time, if even that means falling on different sides of any issue. I don't believe in pledging allegiance to anything but truth, and what I see as "right." No thanks, I think I'll pass on this offer. If I happen to fall on your side in a particular issue, so be it. If I fall on the other side, so bit it. It's really not that big of a deal. (Message edited by lmichigan on December 12, 2005) | ||
The_nerd Member Username: The_nerd Post Number: 267 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 192.5.109.49 |
^ A coup D'troitYES (coo day twa)? Okay, I couldn't resist. Yes, I do realize that the correct French spelling is Coup D'etat. |
