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Tkelly1986
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Post Number: 45
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Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 12:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How is the construction coming along? Has anyone taken pictures of it lately they could share? It just seems that this lot should have been 15 or so stories, so I am excited to see the finished product to prove myself wrong that 10 is a sufficient presence.
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Chris_rohn
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Huggybear
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Almost done, at least from the exterior.

15 stories would have been a bad fit for that space - both because it is on top of a garage and because it would (more) seriously screw up the street level view of the other buildings around CM.

It's not an architectural marvel (just a green glass trapezoid), but a less obnoxious use of color than Compuware.
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Lurker
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Are you now sponsoring the rink, Chris?
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Matt
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Did anyone else notice the face inside the ice rink or am I just imagining things?
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Psip
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I don't see a face :-)
Rink
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Mikeydbn
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Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 3:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now it's time to focus on Monroe Block...
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Llyn
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I like the compuware colors and design except for the entranceway. (I like the design of the entrance but the translucent green doesn't do anything for me or the rough steel material of the arch on top. And what's with those cutesy colored panels here and there?)

I think the colors of the new visteon building (that's what I'm calling it till they pry the mouse from my cold dead fingers) are alright, but the building is otherwise pretty bland. Personally, I'm hoping there are some finishing touches that impove it a little.
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Llyn
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"Now it's time to focus on Monroe Block..."

proceed... focus...
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Lmichigan
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Yeah, this thing will look much better at night. It doesn't look horrible in the day time, but a little cheap. I really wish they would have went with an entirely, highly relfective glass facade, instead of the translucent glass. The plastic/aluminium panels at the floor separations just looks kind of tacky.

But, at night as was reported, there will be a needle-thin decoartive spire that will run nearly the whole length of the facade and then above that will be lit at night. That will add some kind of accent to the otherwise bland triangle.
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Llyn
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*applause*

Exactly what I was saying, except your version actually says it.
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Nellonfury
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I hope the city starts the Monroe Block project when One Kennedy Square is complete. So far the building looks nice especially its cover with glass windows!!!
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Lmichigan
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The Monroe Block will most likely be the last to be developed, and I hope very much that they don't rush it, or we could end up with something that underutilizes the site. The Woodward Block is next in line. REDICO (developers of One Kennedy Square) have until sometime next year to come up with a plan for the Woodward Block.

(Message edited by lmichigan on December 15, 2005)
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Broken_main
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I don't like the Visteon Building. Call me old fashion but I would have taken a beautful brick infused with that some nice glass over all that glass any day. as far as C-ware, I have grown to like it. i think the interior outshines the exterior by a mile
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Rsa
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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:45 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

broken_main; you're old fashioned.
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Llyn
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broken_main; you're old fashioned.
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Northend
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psip..awesome..
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Mackinaw
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I'm old fashioned with ya.

Monroe + Hudson's block = the keystones to a once again cohesive downtown.
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Skulker
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I like the Kennedy Square building so far....recall it is not done and we don't have a good view of the ground floor which I think will help set off the building.

I think it blends nicely into the surrounding buildings, which, especially to the west and south are some pretty impressive works.

It does not distract from the exisitng architecture by being too flashy or out of context and it certainly doesn't insult the usrrounding architecture through hackneyed immitation.

The site has a WHOLE lot of potential for making a HUGE mistake design wise. Yes the design is a bit safe, but its better than a huge mistake. Overall, so far its somewhere around a B/B+ in my book.
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Lurker
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I think they should have made an exact 4:1 replica of the Penobscot. Either that, or maybe the Vinton folks can move their building and plop it down on the site. I can't imagine why architects even exist anymore - builders should just use existing pre-1920s plans.
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Mackinaw
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Here here. But 1920s materials are too pricy for today's firms, and the architects wouldn't know how to use them anyway.

Anytime I do see a new building which has at least some old-style use of high quality materials, I do stand back and appreciate it. The new science wing at GP South, i.e., paid for by a municipal bond, is an excellent example, as they implemented Pewabic tile and marble flooring to make it cohesive with the rest of the school.
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Lurker
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You should consider a job at Greenfield Village.
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Swingline
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I probably missed a previous thread on this, but bear with me. What is with the Kennedy Square name for the building? Kennedy Square is gone. It's history. When Tiger Stadium is demolished, should the replacement project be called the Tiger Stadium building, or the Tiger Stadium apartments, or the Tiger Stadium shopping center? No, it would sound kind of stupid. The same is true for this new building. Plenty of visitors to the building are going to assume that the fabulous park across the street is called Kennedy Square. They should scrap the name and just give it a Woodward address.
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Upinottawa
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Hopefully, it will not be called Tiger Stadium Parkade....
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Rsa
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quote:

I can't imagine why architects even exist anymore - builders should just use existing pre-1920s plans.




i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and figure that you are just being facetuous with this statement; because it's one of the most ignorant things i've read here in a while.

-RSA {RockStArchitect)
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Dialh4hipster
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Oh Lurker you slay me! And Mackinaw you slay me more!

Good times on the forum today!
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_sj_
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quote:

I like the compuware colors and design except for the entranceway. (I like the design of the entrance but the translucent green doesn't do anything for me or the rough steel material of the arch on top.




The arch was meant to connect the two side together which at the time of Construction Compuware had two distrinct sides Products and Services. The arch was signed by Compuware Employees at the Cobo Christmas party one year. So while it holds nothing external it was meant to mean something internally.
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Lurker
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In case there was any doubt, yes, I was being sarcastic. I believe a 4:1 exact replica of the Penobscot would produce an environment similar to the office in "Being John Malcovich". I also figured the sarcasm would be made clear by suggesting that a 12 story building being moved from down the street.

The sarcasm stemmed from me growing tired of people bemoaning any architecture that isn't stone or brick and built after the depression. Like any other medium, it evolves as time goes on.
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Broken_main
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quote:

broken_main; you're old fashioned.




I thought I was...I just need confirmation. lol
actually though I like all types of buildings that use different types of media to present something architecturally extravagant. When I see a lot of glass. I think of Southfield. Never liked all the glass there.

However I love the new Cass Tech as well as the Welcome Center at WSU
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Mackinaw
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The welcome center is alright...it does give Wayne a distinctive presence on Woodward, and makes an interesting effect with the Macabees behind it. When you go using that same greenish/blueish glass on the workout center and new dorms, though, it gets cliched in a hurry.
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Jt1
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Down with the Welcome Center for wiping out Z's Tavern.
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Dialh4hipster
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The new Opera House retail building looks pretty great with the combo of limestone and a lot of glass, too.

I hope something good goes in there!
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Broken_main
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Absolutely dial...I really like the design myself
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Sharmaal
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The OHR building does look sweet. My understanding is that it will be all Opera Memorabilia.
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Mind_field
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Cmart park is going to be sooooo packed this summer with the new people working at 1KS. People will have to start eating their lunch in the fountain and on the roof of ABP.

But seriously the overwhelming crowds in the park should create nice spillover into Cadillac Square. I still can't wait to hear what the retail is going to be at 1KS.
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Broken_main
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Oh, I didn't know that the 1KS was slated to have retail. this is really good
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Itsjeff
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I'm hoping that there'll be a Design Within Reach outlet in the Opera House Garage. That'd be pretty sweet.

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