Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2076 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.218.77.140
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 6:34 pm: | |
"I helped with the recount yesterday (on the Kilpatrick team)...so far not much has happened. Giving into Hendrix's request they are counting his "backyard" districts and so far the count showed 4 new votes for Kilpatrick and 2 for Hendrix. This recount is a joke. There is nothing going to come of it." -"Ilovedetroit" on Sat, Dec 11 Once again "Ilovedetroit" proves to be a complete liar. 1. Your numbers are wrong, yet again. "SIX new votes were found for KK and FOUR for FH (net +2 KK)" according to media reports that cited "information from the Mayor's office". Neither the Wayne County Board of Canvassers nor the FH Campaign have released any numbers. By the way, those numbers were from the FIRST day, Thursday, Dec 8th. 2. Nice try. During the first couple of days, the precincts were counted IN ORDER, STARTING WITH THE EASTSIDE (not "Hendrix's backyard districts", that would be the WESTSIDE). 3. I have been at the recount everyday for varying amounts of time and I certainly didn't see anyone that fit your (multiple) description(s) on the day that you claimed to have been there (nor in subsequent days for that matter). Then again Sharon McPhail was there, so you might be her. Once again you claim to be at every event...and once again you give erroneous reports about such events. Once again you are proven to be a phony. The only joke is YOU. |
Llyn
Member Username: Llyn
Post Number: 1298 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 7:23 pm: | |
"SIX new votes were found for KK and FOUR for FH (net +2 KK)" ...and that's a huge difference because... |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 637 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 7:30 pm: | |
wow...pretty sad Metro. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2077 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.218.77.140
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 8:12 pm: | |
You're pathetic Quinn. How are you going to cover for "Ilovedetroit's" bogus claims this time? |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2078 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.218.77.140
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 8:16 pm: | |
Llyn, it's a huge difference because... "Ilovedetroit's" vote numbers, days of the week, side of town counted, and claim of his/her very presence at the recount don't add up. That's not to mention this person's complete lack of credibility from the start. |
Bussey Member Username: Bussey
Post Number: 86 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.236.200.238
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 8:43 pm: | |
Why dont you wait to boast until after the recount is over? |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3243 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.73.32.19
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 11:45 pm: | |
The recount is boosting KK's numbers and Hendrix supporters grow their hatred of the world. All that hate can only lead to bad things. Perhaps its time to stop broadcasting lies about KK. There are plenty of issues to criticize him on. But now that Helmut is out of the race, his vocal supporters, some of whom claimed to be ABKK are silent and absent. Hopefully they won't succomb to the holiday blues. But they should have voted for Sharon. |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 489 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 198.109.44.2
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:29 am: | |
just let 'em count and just chill. You all find the weirdest things to gripe about. |
Llyn
Member Username: Llyn
Post Number: 1301 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:53 am: | |
mdg - I just thought it was odd because it's such a small difference that it's understandable and sort of, well... silly to worry about. Your second point carries the most weight. I would've stuck with that. But that's just me. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1838 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 66.192.63.5
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:27 pm: | |
Metro - So you were at the recount? Interesting. I worked there two days hmmm and we were in the same room. Sorry I am not Sharon McPhail - she was there but not when I was. IF you were there you would have known that they did start the east side and switched to the west side. I was actually a challenger in Precinct 17 (west side) and that was on Saturday (the count started Thursday). So your claims are bizarre and a lie. And the numbers I reported were correct at the time but they do change daily. BOTTOMLINE Hendrix is still down and nothing is changing that much. FUNNY I did not see anyone that looked that weird when I was there from the Hendrix team. What do you look like Metro? |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 511 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 198.109.44.2
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:47 pm: | |
Hmmm...I love it!!!! Call em out!! |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1839 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 66.192.63.5
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:52 pm: | |
Be careful Broken...Metro is after Bratt, Quinn, and Me you MAY be next! |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 3581 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 2:33 pm: | |
I just heard from one of my moles who worked from the recounting board that some of the votes had been tampered with. Mostly with KING KWAME's votes. So some of of those KING KWAME's tampered votes don't count. |
William_x Member Username: William_x
Post Number: 120 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.12.172
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 2:43 pm: | |
Danny whoever your mole is they are violating the Conflict of Interest and the Confidentiality laws.Telling you what's happening in the recount is no different then stealing votes. |
William_x Member Username: William_x
Post Number: 121 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.12.172
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 2:46 pm: | |
ilovedetroit you would get my vote anyday with yo badself. :-) |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 518 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 198.109.44.2
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 2:53 pm: | |
quote:Be careful Broken...
The problem is ILD...I know a lil bit about you and I have actually seen you. I know Bratt as well. These folks that hide behind a screen name though. Shady, scared, scandalous...call it like you see it. If you just keep it real..it's all good. And as far as getting attacked on line...I can hold my own. Feel me??? (Message edited by broken_main on December 15, 2005) |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1841 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 66.192.63.5
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:20 pm: | |
Yes, Broken a mutual friend pointed you out to me also. I should have said hello at the time! Danny - If your mole doesn't find 14,300 votes or so it don't matter. The paper (News) reported 8 votes that had been (they think) completed by the same person AND not all were for KK. So tell your mole to keep digging they only need 14,300 more votes that are questionable for Hendrix to win. |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 7901 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.71.67.71
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:44 pm: | |
uhhh..wouldn't that be 14,292 (ish, if they wren't all for KK)? Just making some fun : ) |
Northend Member Username: Northend
Post Number: 495 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.227.217.22
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:46 pm: | |
When is this expensive recount supposed to be over with? |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1846 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 66.192.63.5
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:19 pm: | |
It has to be over within 30 days (which I think is Jan 6th),however, innauguration day is Jan 3rd. OR Hendrix has to just call an end to the recount. Frankly I don't get what he is trying to prove at this point there has been miniscule change to the numbers. |
Dove7 Member Username: Dove7
Post Number: 1827 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 24.5.195.127
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:39 pm: | |
On the Yahoo mainpage, there wa a report of tampering in the mayor vote in Detroit..I didn't read the details, but it was important enough for Yahoo to make it one of their reports. I wished that I had saved it. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1847 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 66.192.63.5
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:53 pm: | |
The Detroit News reported it to. There is 8 votes in question that appear to have been completed by the same person - the paper made it sound that the votes were cast by both candidates but that Hendrix was the main one challenging them. Again it is only 8 votes and he needs 14,000+ to win. |
William_x Member Username: William_x
Post Number: 122 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.12.172
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:57 pm: | |
Oh Boy Yahoo is another outside form of media who gets information incorrect,and that just pointed out why there's so much hellraising.I will be glad when this crap is over with,due to the fact its getting old and wornout,and when its over all these Hendrix supporters will still be full of anger.ilovedetroit, you're not the only one that Hendrix got confused,and can't figure out the point of a recount.I believe that Hendrix's suburbanites supporter is boosting his ego to try to defeat the Mayor. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1848 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 66.192.63.5
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:04 pm: | |
William X - The people that get most mad at me when I say I voted for KK is suburbanites - Detroiters (even Hendrix people) seem to be less crazy about it. I was at a bar on Monday night and this little twerp got all indignant that I voted for KK. I said to him "why do you care?"...his response was "because I hate Kwame." Great you hate him so stay in Royal Oak. |
Northend Member Username: Northend
Post Number: 498 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.227.217.22
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:08 pm: | |
ild..you're over 21??? |
Northend Member Username: Northend
Post Number: 499 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.227.217.22
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:09 pm: | |
ild...just kidding, i'm bored. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2083 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.233.3.14
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:20 pm: | |
Keep trying "Ilovedetroit". If the recount is not completed by the COUNTY in 30 days it simply continues under the jurisdiction of the STATE. And again nice try but your story was once again full of holes. You claimed that you were there on Friday (which would be the "yesterday" you alluded to in your Saturday, Dec 11 post) "when they were counting Hendrix's backyard", yet the Westside votes weren't started on until Saturday. Furthermore, unless you are a blond White woman (as your originally claimed), suburban White male attorney, or part of the 8-12 College Republicans that were acting as observers for Team Kilpatrick, you weren't there and/or you (once again) aren't whom you claim. By the way, what is your deal with lying about the smallest things (much less the big stuff)? The "handwritting issue" began with 15 ballots in question...NOT 8. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1849 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 66.192.63.5
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:38 pm: | |
Metro - I was there Friday from 12-4:30 and Saturday from 9-1:00. So what do you look like? And your numbers are petty .01% of the ballots in question. Unless Hendrix finds 30 boxes (assuming 450 ballots per precinct) of ballots with his name on them then it don't matter. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2086 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.233.3.14
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:42 pm: | |
"Ilovedetroit" try telling the FBI, Wayne County Board of Canvassers, and Citizens of Detroit (among others) that it "don't matter". By the way, what happend to your original claim (hmmm that question seems to get asked a lot) that you "supported Kilpatrick but wouldn't actively be working for him"? |
Southwestmap Member Username: Southwestmap
Post Number: 327 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.79.90.206
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 7:12 pm: | |
ILD works for McPhail who is sucking up to KK for the school superintendant job. ILD is no regular campaign volunteer. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1852 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 24.172.45.2
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 7:43 pm: | |
Southwest... I don't work for McPhail. I did volunteer on her campaign...I never received payment or a check other than the occasional pizza party. And doesn't the school super job have to be appointed by the school board? KK has nothing to do with that. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2099 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.144.119.209
| Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 8:59 pm: | |
With Kilpatrick's money woes (especially) towards the end of the campaign, how can his campaign afford the following during the recount?: 1. Attorneys from Dykema Gossett as well as the likes of David Baker Lewis, Reggie Turner, and Melvin "Butch" Hollowell (partner level = $500 - $800/hr, others $300 - $500/hr) 2. Catered lunches everyday 3. Paying (non-appointee) "volunteer" observers $12/hr. Also note that one to two dozen appointees have also worked as "volunteer" observers everyday. Are they on the city clock as well? 4. New (black w/yellow and green) sweatshirts, hats, and t-shirts (w/KK's face) Are the taxpayers footing the bill? |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3253 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.243
| Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 9:18 pm: | |
MD attempts to switch focus away from the recount details and onto the Helmut tactic of attacking instead of addressing the people. The media reported that both campaigns had several hundred thousand dollars left over after the election. But because Helmut hired folks who did now know what they were doing, let them know that its still possible to donate to the KK campaign. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2102 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.144.119.209
| Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 9:42 pm: | |
Brian, again nice try. 15 days (120 hrs) x 3 partner level attorneys @ $500 to $800/hr = $180k-288k + 15 days (120 hrs) x at least a half dozen Dykema attorneys @ $300-500/hr = $216k-360k + Catered meals everyday = at least several thousand $$$ + 15 days (120 hrs) x around 50 (non-appointee) "volunteers" @ $12hr = $72k + New (different from campaign) t-shirts/hats/sweatshirts = at least several hundred $$$ MORE THAN "Kilpatrick reported $160,566 in cash on hand at the end of November." (DFP) By the way, you can't donate to a campaign if you've already given the maximum amount ($3400k). |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3255 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.243
| Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 11:04 pm: | |
The fact that MD can't live in or accept the reality of this campaign, Priceless. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1892 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.40.224.107
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 3:09 am: | |
Metro - He may have HAD money issues but HE WON! Metro at 3:00 AM standing at the Hendrix election night "bash" with a stupid look of shock on his face "PRICELESS". ILD and Brian at the Kilpatrick party smiling broadly - satisfaction! |
Tortfeasor Member Username: Tortfeasor
Post Number: 419 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 192.217.231.54
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 12:27 pm: | |
Metro - Dykema rates are not that high. You are off in your calculations. |
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin
Post Number: 3376 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.201
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 12:39 pm: | |
LMBAO ..... read it and weep, straight from your own "fishwrap"! quote:State: End Detroit recount With 326 precincts reviewed, tedious process is not changing results of mayoral or City Council elections. Lisa M. Collins / The Detroit News Michigan's director of elections is calling on failed candidates Freman Hendrix and Bert Dearing to consider calling off the recount of Detroit's Nov. 8 election as the tedious hand review is not changing any results, nor turning up evidence of fraud or ballot mishandling. "The candidates need to take a real serious look at what's to be gained by the recount," said elections director Chris Thomas. "With 326 precincts recounted, it is extremely unlikely the results will change." Despite numerous problems in the handling of the Detroit election by ousted City Clerk Jackie Currie, Thomas said Detroiters should feel confident in the election results at the halfway point in the recount and after several investigations. (One helluva political dichotomy as stated) "Voters should have a large degree of confidence in this system," Thomas said. But the Hendrix camp says it will not drop the recount. The former deputy mayor under Dennis Archer submitted a list of precincts that he wanted the Wayne County Board of Canvassers to pay particular attention to. Most of the precincts are in northwest Detroit, where Hendrix lost in his own backyard. "We gave a list of 150 precincts, and they're not done yet. There are about 50 yet to go," said Peter Ellsworth, Hendrix's attorney. "Freman wants to see the results in those precincts." Ellsworth says he opposes many of the decisions the county canvassing board is making to determine precincts that can't be recounted. Those decisions are made because, for instance, the number on the ballot box seal does not match the number of names recorded in the poll book. All the votes were tallied in the original city canvass, but the county board will not recount some because of discrepancies. (Now Hendrix's attorney wants to dispute State Law! Go figure ...) "It's been disturbing to me the number of precincts they say they can't recount," Ellsworth said. Though figures fluctuate daily, Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick has held steady in the recount, picking up 40 votes over Hendrix so far. Kilpatrick won by some 14,000 on Nov. 8, while Dearing came in 10th place for City Council and would need to pick up more than 3,000 votes to gain a place on the legislative board. Currie also asked for a recount, citing problems in certain precincts, though she is the official in charge of ensuring the smooth running of the election. Currie's recount is complete. Though recount tallies are unofficial, her election results remained unchanged. In a surprise to most city political insiders, Currie lost to unknown Detroit Public Schools math teacher Janice Winfrey, who quadrupled the number of votes she got from the August primary to the November general election to beat Currie 113,962 to 101,103. Thomas made his comments to the canvassing board after recommending the board should call off an investigation into handwriting on some 1,000 ballots. Thomas said a review of ballots in seven precincts by state elections personnel did not turn up a "single instance" where two ballots were found to be filled out by the same person. "I don't see probable cause here for further investigation," Thomas said. Despite objections from attorneys for Hendrix and Dearing, the board agreed. "The investigation is over," said board chairwoman Alyce Smith. Meanwhile, the city will have to pay the 75 county employees recounting the city's 720 precincts, and though the bill is unknown, it will likely be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. At the current rate, it appears the recount will not be completed in the 30 days allotted by Michigan law. State elections director Thomas said he hasn't determined what will occur should the recount roll into January. You can reach Lisa M. Collins at (313) 222-2072 or lmcollins@detnews.com.
Black-atcha ..... watching Freman get "pimp slapped" twice. The boy should just go ahead and make that move to Bloomfield Hills or Florida and quit trying to fukk with folks. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2104 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.37.193
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 7:17 pm: | |
"Ilovedetroit", how did you enjoy "working at the recount on Friday"? Are you shooting for Monday too? Still can't keep your stories straight... Rasputin, are you refering to the same "White, suburban media that is trying to tell Detroiters what to think and trying to take over"? Or are you refering to the State's same Chris Thomas (aka Baghdad Bob) who has been saying that there is "nothing wrong" since Election Day...despite the election day problems at the polls and other irregularities...election night "computer glitches"...30% of precincts being out of balance during the certification...more precincts suddenly turning up out of balance during the recount...and of course the similar handwriting turning up on more and more ballots as the recount goes on... |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1897 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.40.224.107
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 7:49 pm: | |
Sorry Metro didn't make it today...I had to work besides I don't believe they held it today. And on Monday I am on vacation...how will you live w/o me. Metro- It is over...the fat lady is singing "Crazy" to Freman. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2106 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.37.193
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 7:54 pm: | |
You "didn't make it" any of the days "Ilovedetroit". Same with your claims of attending all those other events. Were you filling out ballots in the basement of those churches "Ilovedetroit"? |
Compn Member Username: Compn
Post Number: 43 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 65.29.121.215
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 7:57 pm: | |
why dont you two meet up somewhere and let fists decide whos right? that goes for kk/freeman too |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2107 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.37.193
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 7:57 pm: | |
Rasputin post something erroneous once again! State election law and Wayne County election guidelines differ on recounting out-of-balance precincts. Nice try phony. |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3256 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.181
| Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 2:48 pm: | |
Will Hendrix force his supporters to worry about this recount during the holidays? The smart move would be to move the energy for another political run in 4 years. But as I posted a few weeks back, Hendrix has been alienating most of those who would support him in the future. Hendrix has already been busted for the promises he made and would not keep. He has lost his connection to Granholm and Archer has lost his last hope of political influence. |
Bratt Member Username: Bratt
Post Number: 375 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 70.236.207.41
| Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 3:22 pm: | |
Ras, Metro doesn't like you either huh? I say you get him...he starting to bore me. I can see him as a kid, you know the one always singing: "Liar, Liar pants on fire". Cuz you know everyone is a liar. Everyone! I think he is Freman Hendrix himself. Brian: Hendrix has to do this re-count. Comerica is banging on his door requesting payments on those loans. Can you imagine being that bill collector? "May I please speak with Mr. Hendrix?" "Who's calling?" "This is Comerica Bank calling. Mr. Hendrix, you are a month behind on your payment and we need you to send us a payment as soon as possible. Since you didn't win the election, we have no choice but to start collecting on this loan. You cannot do anything for us...no favors....nothing.....nada! Dammit you said you had this election in the bag! What are we going to do now? Fatass Kwame banks with Bank One! Now send us a damn check!!!!! |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1901 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 4.224.201.26
| Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 5:04 pm: | |
Bratt - You are tooooo damn funny! This was my hearty laugh for the day. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2108 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.93.173
| Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 5:25 pm: | |
Bratt, you are, in part, known by the company you keep. Bratt..."Ilovedetroit"...Quinn ...Rasputin...etc. Merry Christmas...if you are celebrating Christmas this year...or if Christmas were held today you would not celebrate...or if you are celebrating a holiday but you never said it was Christmas |
Bratt Member Username: Bratt
Post Number: 376 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 69.212.229.63
| Posted on Sunday, December 25, 2005 - 2:21 am: | |
Merry Christmas to you as well Metro. |