Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 584 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.77
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:29 pm: | |
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20051215/P OLITICS/512150335 Yeah, they're really having a positive influence on our youth, huh? Sometimes I wonder why they're still allowed to recruit in the DPS. Maybe they'd get their message across if they learned some respect. |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 400 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.61.98.175
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:32 pm: | |
What bothers me is they will ultimately turn off kids to activism - they're such a bad example. |
The_aram Member Username: The_aram
Post Number: 4581 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.31.87
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:34 pm: | |
BAMN protestors, including students bused in from the DPS, hurled packets of soy sauce at an Asian-American friend of mine at a rally for AA in Ann Arbor a couple months ago. She happened to be standing near a group of people protesting against AA, and though she had no opinion one way or the other and wanted to get more information by attending the rally, she was taunted with racial comments about her ethnicity and then pelted with soy sauce packets. There's a reason no one in Ann Arbor will work with BAMN anymore. |
Gdub Member Username: Gdub
Post Number: 921 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.15.192
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:41 pm: | |
Maybe they should stay home and study if they're so concerned about their chances of getting into a good university. |
Solarflare Member Username: Solarflare
Post Number: 359 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.69.106.29
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:43 pm: | |
"By Any Means Necessary"? Does that include violence? |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 1071 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 141.213.173.94
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:47 pm: | |
That's really something, The_Aram. I know the FBI looked into BAMN because of some of their tactics. They also got a condemnation from the NAACP for the most recent UM protest. (Of course, the NAACP also condemned Donovan McNabb for becoming a "white" style pocket quarterback, so sometimes both organizations make you shake your head). Nothing good comes out of BAMN influencing children. If someone enabled youth to think rationally on the pros and cons of affirmative action, that would be alright, but militant opposition such as what we've seen is reprehensible. |
Paulmcall
Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 568 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216
| Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 11:47 am: | |
Being obnoxious, no matter who you are or what you're protesting, tends to turn people off. They should rethink their tactics. |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1377 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.213.81.185
| Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:20 pm: | |
The thing is, the court have already ruled repeatedly that the ballot initiative should move forward. All BAMN really has done is stall it from happening. Moreover, when it does reach the ballot, their actions will likely cause some voters to vote in favor of abolishing affirmative action simply out of spite towards BAMN. |
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal
Post Number: 475 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 136.2.1.153
| Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 3:02 pm: | |
Fnem speaks the truth! |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 1475 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189
| Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 4:09 pm: | |
Rosa Parks would spin in her grave over these kind of tactics as would Martin Luther King, Jr. What separates their form of activism to these folks is they were peaceful and actually had a stronger message. |
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001
Post Number: 1956 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.14.135.95
| Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 5:40 pm: | |
I wouldn't go and give bamn that much credit, Fnemecek. Just about everyone who signed my petitions did so because they opposed racism, and wanted to see it abolished in all forms. |
Jmil Member Username: Jmil
Post Number: 1603 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.252.124.163
| Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 6:11 am: | |
I see the white folks have their playground back. It took a while, Detroityes? What Detroit is that? This is where I came in. |
Hagglerock Member Username: Hagglerock
Post Number: 187 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 12.214.243.76
| Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 11:35 am: | |
black or white, tactics like the ones used by BAMN are only polarizing Michigan's sensitive "racial minded" population. Honestly what good does that do? |
Registeredguest Member Username: Registeredguest
Post Number: 343 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.79.102.42
| Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 12:06 pm: | |
Black or White, a**holes are a**holes. Coming from an AA supporter, too... |
The_nerd Member Username: The_nerd
Post Number: 277 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 192.5.109.49
| Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 7:47 pm: | |
I remember being pulled out of class in HS to listen to their BS. I want a refund on that wasted 45 minutes of my life. |
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001
Post Number: 1961 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.14.135.95
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 11:39 am: | |
Can you elaborate more on this? |
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine
Post Number: 701 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 70.236.147.161
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 2:50 pm: | |
i saw footage of the incident on "off the record" this morning,and their actions aren't going to convince anyone who saw it that AA should stand. its only going to reinforce any negative opinions of residents of this city, pretty sad (Message edited by gravitymachine on December 18, 2005) |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 1623 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.186.195
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 4:12 pm: | |
Wouldn't it be fun to get a bunch of forumers together and disrupt a BAMN meeting! |
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001
Post Number: 1964 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.14.135.95
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 8:52 pm: | |
Do these losers from bamn even hold regular meetings? |
Rosedaleken Member Username: Rosedaleken
Post Number: 120 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 68.43.125.146
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 9:26 pm: | |
Yep, the e-mail announcements hit my spam pile regularly. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 2795 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 9:35 pm: | |
I remember driving past the Lansing Center that day, and wondering why their were so many LPD cars out front. I saw the coverage of this, and while the flipping of the table was a bit much, I saw nothing else shameful or out of the ordinary as protests go. I see plenty of protest living here in Lansing. The only difference I saw here was that this one was about a very controversial issue that's very current and pending. |
Huggybear Member Username: Huggybear
Post Number: 105 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 70.229.124.163
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 10:29 am: | |
quote:black or white, tactics like the ones used by BAMN are only polarizing Michigan's sensitive "racial minded" population. Honestly what good does that do?
Hmm... Last I heard, BAMN's ringleaders were a couple of white former U of M students. So much for the grass roots and not being manipulated by the Man. |
Kova Member Username: Kova
Post Number: 167 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 141.213.184.173
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 9:04 pm: | |
white kids using token black kids to feel legit, |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 2817 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 9:08 pm: | |
Yeah, and the other side brought a Black man from California who believes that he some how fits on that side of the fence on this debate. Go Figure. |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 411 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.61.98.175
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 9:36 pm: | |
The sad thing is the kids who are in BAMN tend to be legitimately distressed about the state of the country. BAMN finds them and twists them. I've known very wonderful people who made it out of that group with their politics intact. Shame on Shanta Driver and the Massie clan for their misuse of trust. |
The_nerd Member Username: The_nerd
Post Number: 280 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 192.5.109.49
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 9:45 pm: | |
When I was at Cass, I remember having to sit in the recital hall to hear their female attorney explian why everyone should get involved. It was very one sided, and as usual with BAMN, peppered with their venom. There are, or were, a couple of websites that showed their links to various political organizations (i.e. communism). BAMN does a good job at getting students to yell, shout, scream and holler without fully informing them. That's really, IMHO, BAMN's only claim to fame, it's ability to turn out people with protest signs in huge numbers. Sadly their strategy rarely works. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 2820 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 10:51 pm: | |
Isn't that the story of most extreme groups both conservative and liberal? I mean, they never fully inform their victims...I mean...supporters. PETA, BAMN, and so on... With that said I love nothing more then to see a good protest if even over what you or I may see as the most ridiculous issues. The only thing I saw BAMN do wrong at the Lansing Center was turn over a table the Board of Canvassers was trying to use as an unneeded barrier. Wrong? Sure. But I've seen far worse in regards to behavior at a protest, and even here in Lansing. |
Sharkskin Member Username: Sharkskin
Post Number: 447 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 68.21.43.101
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 10:06 pm: | |
Old Redfordette, please e-mail me at bjlefebvre@gmail.com. Thanks. |