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Susanarosa
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Post Number: 584
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 208.39.170.77
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20051215/P OLITICS/512150335

Yeah, they're really having a positive influence on our youth, huh?

Sometimes I wonder why they're still allowed to recruit in the DPS. Maybe they'd get their message across if they learned some respect.
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Oldredfordette
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Post Number: 400
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 68.61.98.175
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What bothers me is they will ultimately turn off kids to activism - they're such a bad example.
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The_aram
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Post Number: 4581
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 68.43.31.87
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BAMN protestors, including students bused in from the DPS, hurled packets of soy sauce at an Asian-American friend of mine at a rally for AA in Ann Arbor a couple months ago. She happened to be standing near a group of people protesting against AA, and though she had no opinion one way or the other and wanted to get more information by attending the rally, she was taunted with racial comments about her ethnicity and then pelted with soy sauce packets.

There's a reason no one in Ann Arbor will work with BAMN anymore.
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Gdub
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Post Number: 921
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 68.248.15.192
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe they should stay home and study if they're so concerned about their chances of getting into a good university.
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Solarflare
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Post Number: 359
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 63.69.106.29
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"By Any Means Necessary"? Does that include violence?
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Mackinaw
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Post Number: 1071
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 141.213.173.94
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's really something, The_Aram.

I know the FBI looked into BAMN because of some of their tactics.

They also got a condemnation from the NAACP for the most recent UM protest. (Of course, the NAACP also condemned Donovan McNabb for becoming a "white" style pocket quarterback, so sometimes both organizations make you shake your head).

Nothing good comes out of BAMN influencing children. If someone enabled youth to think rationally on the pros and cons of affirmative action, that would be alright, but militant opposition such as what we've seen is reprehensible.
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Paulmcall
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Post Number: 568
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 68.40.119.216
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 11:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Being obnoxious, no matter who you are or what you're protesting, tends to turn people off. They should rethink their tactics.
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Fnemecek
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Post Number: 1377
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 69.213.81.185
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The thing is, the court have already ruled repeatedly that the ballot initiative should move forward. All BAMN really has done is stall it from happening.

Moreover, when it does reach the ballot, their actions will likely cause some voters to vote in favor of abolishing affirmative action simply out of spite towards BAMN.
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Sharmaal
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Post Number: 475
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 136.2.1.153
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 3:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fnem speaks the truth!
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Smogboy
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Post Number: 1475
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Posted From: 68.84.183.189
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 4:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rosa Parks would spin in her grave over these kind of tactics as would Martin Luther King, Jr. What separates their form of activism to these folks is they were peaceful and actually had a stronger message.
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Mcp001
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Post Number: 1956
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Posted From: 69.14.135.95
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 5:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wouldn't go and give bamn that much credit, Fnemecek.

Just about everyone who signed my petitions did so because they opposed racism, and wanted to see it abolished in all forms.
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Jmil
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Post Number: 1603
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 68.252.124.163
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 6:11 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see the white folks have their playground back.
It took a while, Detroityes?
What Detroit is that?
This is where I came in.
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Hagglerock
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Post Number: 187
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 12.214.243.76
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 11:35 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

black or white, tactics like the ones used by BAMN are only polarizing Michigan's sensitive "racial minded" population. Honestly what good does that do?
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Registeredguest
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Post Number: 343
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 68.79.102.42
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 12:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Black or White, a**holes are a**holes. Coming from an AA supporter, too...
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The_nerd
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Post Number: 277
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 192.5.109.49
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 7:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I remember being pulled out of class in HS to listen to their BS. I want a refund on that wasted 45 minutes of my life.
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Mcp001
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Post Number: 1961
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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 11:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can you elaborate more on this?
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Gravitymachine
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Post Number: 701
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Posted From: 70.236.147.161
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 2:50 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i saw footage of the incident on "off the record" this morning,and their actions aren't going to convince anyone who saw it that AA should stand. its only going to reinforce any negative opinions of residents of this city, pretty sad

(Message edited by gravitymachine on December 18, 2005)
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Gistok
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Post Number: 1623
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 4.229.186.195
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 4:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wouldn't it be fun to get a bunch of forumers together and disrupt a BAMN meeting! :-)
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Mcp001
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Post Number: 1964
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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 8:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do these losers from bamn even hold regular meetings?
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Rosedaleken
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Post Number: 120
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 68.43.125.146
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 9:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, the e-mail announcements hit my spam pile regularly.
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Lmichigan
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Post Number: 2795
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Posted From: 67.172.95.197
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 9:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I remember driving past the Lansing Center that day, and wondering why their were so many LPD cars out front.

I saw the coverage of this, and while the flipping of the table was a bit much, I saw nothing else shameful or out of the ordinary as protests go. I see plenty of protest living here in Lansing. The only difference I saw here was that this one was about a very controversial issue that's very current and pending.
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Huggybear
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Post Number: 105
Registered: 08-2005
Posted From: 70.229.124.163
Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 10:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

black or white, tactics like the ones used by BAMN are only polarizing Michigan's sensitive "racial minded" population. Honestly what good does that do?


Hmm... Last I heard, BAMN's ringleaders were a couple of white former U of M students. So much for the grass roots and not being manipulated by the Man.
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Kova
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 141.213.184.173
Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 9:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

white kids using token black kids to feel legit,
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Lmichigan
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Post Number: 2817
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Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 9:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, and the other side brought a Black man from California who believes that he some how fits on that side of the fence on this debate. Go Figure.
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Oldredfordette
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Post Number: 411
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 68.61.98.175
Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 9:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The sad thing is the kids who are in BAMN tend to be legitimately distressed about the state of the country. BAMN finds them and twists them. I've known very wonderful people who made it out of that group with their politics intact. Shame on Shanta Driver and the Massie clan for their misuse of trust.
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The_nerd
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Post Number: 280
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 192.5.109.49
Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 9:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I was at Cass, I remember having to sit in the recital hall to hear their female attorney explian why everyone should get involved. It was very one sided, and as usual with BAMN, peppered with their venom. There are, or were, a couple of websites that showed their links to various political organizations (i.e. communism).

BAMN does a good job at getting students to yell, shout, scream and holler without fully informing them. That's really, IMHO, BAMN's only claim to fame, it's ability to turn out people with protest signs in huge numbers. Sadly their strategy rarely works.
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Lmichigan
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Post Number: 2820
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Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 10:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Isn't that the story of most extreme groups both conservative and liberal? I mean, they never fully inform their victims...I mean...supporters. :-) PETA, BAMN, and so on...

With that said I love nothing more then to see a good protest if even over what you or I may see as the most ridiculous issues. The only thing I saw BAMN do wrong at the Lansing Center was turn over a table the Board of Canvassers was trying to use as an unneeded barrier. Wrong? Sure. But I've seen far worse in regards to behavior at a protest, and even here in Lansing.
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Sharkskin
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Post Number: 447
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 68.21.43.101
Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 10:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Old Redfordette, please e-mail me at bjlefebvre@gmail.com.

Thanks.

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