  Detroits_own Member Username: Detroits_own Post Number: 26 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 4.229.108.140 |
Correction "requests" But he's gotta have somethin' right? its been 3 weeks... Turn to Channel 4 (Message edited by detroits_own on November 22, 2005) | ||
Machoken Member Username: Machoken Post Number: 1010 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 65.86.12.2 |
Or, for the televisually impaired: http://www.clickondetroit.com/ politics/5384817/detail.html | ||
Motif Member Username: Motif Post Number: 12 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 70.88.106.118 |
thats great | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 798 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 205.153.103.15 |
still gonna lose i think | ||
Rberlin Member Username: Rberlin Post Number: 235 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 192.203.222.62 |
This is going to be a fun thread. | ||
Norm Member Username: Norm Post Number: 55 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 206.173.166.4 |
It's ok if he still loses. In this day and age of balloting messes, a hand recount can only help ensure the integrity of the election. I think there needs to be a national standard with machines, but that cuts against the federalist structure of the country. Even if nothing changes in the hand recount, the city's election sysytem needs to improve - hopefully that's on its way with Currie no longer around. | ||
Jmarx Member Username: Jmarx Post Number: 9 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 136.2.1.101 |
Hendrix is on WJR right now... | ||
Damon Member Username: Damon Post Number: 619 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 172.146.93.247 |
GO HENDRIX!! There is still hope afterall. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 7784 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.228.192.98 |
I wouldn't trust the hand ballot count either. How many ballot boxes are missing or severely tampered with? Where are the Fed's?? | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 627 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
God this is sad. What a waste of taxpayer dollars. | ||
Doctors Member Username: Doctors Post Number: 679 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.42.124.248 |
Do Hendrix voters feel this is right, or wrong? | ||
Cletus Member Username: Cletus Post Number: 1303 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 12.75.52.205 |
They should throw the election out. With everything that's recently come to light about Jackie Currie's staff, I would argue that it's an ongoing criminal enterprise. | ||
Norm Member Username: Norm Post Number: 56 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 206.173.166.4 |
Doctors, What dollar amount do you think is reasonable for a recount? Freman will have to pay $7,200 for his request - $10 per precinct. It's the county that bills the city after the recount is over. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9440 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
I echo what Cletus said. While Kwame supposedly won by 15,000 votes, who's to say those weren't 15,000 dead voters? Nothing would surprise me. Either way, I bet the results are off by a minimum of a few thousand with a recount. How long before the CC members demand a recount as well? | ||
Eap Member Username: Eap Post Number: 1203 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.255.166.137 |
Or is it that you are worried that Goat might get wind of this and ask for a recount of your posts...... | ||
Quickdrawmcgraw Member Username: Quickdrawmcgraw Post Number: 12 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 63.77.247.130 |
Whatever the outcome and whomever is or remains mayor will need all of the help it can get. Otherwise, a re-call rather than a re-count will emerge. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4458 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 141.213.175.233 |
lol w/ Eap. That's gold, Jerry. Gold. | ||
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man Post Number: 575 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5 |
I don't know about the City of Detroit charter, but most, if not all city charters contain provisions for re-counts. In all cases(that I know of), the candidate requesting the re-count bears the entire burden of paying for the re-count. | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 212 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 71.10.63.140 |
Spend whatever it costs to insure this election was fair and accurate....NO matter which candidate u support you cannot look past the numerous abnormalities in this election.. That sad, GO HENDRIX | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 2661 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
I highly doubt this will change the outcome, but as someone already said, it will ensure integrity and make sure that not too many people lose faith in the system, and that's really all that counts in the Democratic process. | ||
Mrsjdaniels Member Username: Mrsjdaniels Post Number: 115 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 70.233.2.43 |
Jai Lee has also requested a recount...so I def think the city council will have some changes... | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1756 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 4.224.108.164 |
If he had lost by 1-2% I could see the need and want (and wouldn't blame him) for a recount...but he lost by nearly 6%. This is just stupid and pathetic. Sore loser! | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1328 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 70.236.201.226 |
Well, ilovedetroit, Hendrix knew that if he wasn't around you wouldn't have anything to post on this forum. It's Hendrix's way of getting back at you instead of tracking you down in the streets and gunning you down like you feared. Preferably, I would like to see him do the latter.  (Message edited by royce on November 22, 2005) | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2014 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.228.0.164 |
...That "analysis" from the most "pathetic and stupid" person on this forum, only goes to further demonstrate the legitimacy of Hendrix asking for a recount. | ||
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan Post Number: 194 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.43.81.191 |
Will this just be a regular hand recount, or can they throw out ballots if irregularities are found? I figured with so many absentee ballots having been mailed prior to the elections, and many of them sent to dead people or abandoned/vacant property, it would stand to reason that at least some of these absentee ballots are fradulent. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 3497 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 207.74.110.151 |
YAY!! Recount now we will see who has the most votes. Hendrix should be mayor. NOT KING KWAME! | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 339 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
Ya' gott'a be kidd'n ! super d(motordetroit) | ||
Bratt Member Username: Bratt Post Number: 356 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 69.216.127.12 |
I can see if the election were closer, then yes of course I would even say a recount. But costing the City of Detroit $600,000...that's way too much money! And what if it comes out that Kwame won by even more votes....I can't see just throwing money away especially when we are already struggling. It seems a bit selfish to me, very selfish. We're broke, we can't afford it. And just to do it "to ensure integrity"...and I say again....we're broke. That's taking away $600,000 from the budget. A budget that is already messed up. Will that mean some more people will have to lose their jobs? Man, I hope that the outcome is different. Because if we spend $600,000, all because Mr. Freman said so, he better win or I am going to be royally pissed off. Freman can run again in 4 years | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1758 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 4.224.93.149 |
Oh Royce...grow up...I post plenty on other subjects. | ||
Norm Member Username: Norm Post Number: 57 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 138.88.120.114 |
First off, why in the heck would it cost $600,000? In the last recount, the county billed the city of Detroit $77,000 for a city council recount. Where is the $600,000 estimate coming from? Second,Kilpatrick supporters are already on the attack and calling Hendrix selfish for asking for a recount, which is his legal right. With all the reports of the tabulation irregularities and the messed up exit polls, he is within his right to ask for a recount. Third, good luck to both candidates. Hopefully the hand recount will satisy everyone that the tabulation was fair, regardless of the outcome. | ||
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal Post Number: 430 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 69.14.76.187 |
Quoted from an email I just received from the Hendrix Campaign... "Hendrix listed a few examples: 1. Six or seven of the transmission lines that send the precinct memory pack data from the check in stations malfunctioned on election night. The public was left to believe that something went wrong with those lines. SBC was brought in that evening to attempt to fix the lines. On Thursday, after the election, it was discovered that there had been nothing wrong with the lines after all. Instead, someone had mistakenly left the testing software on the lines in seven separate locations. Computer experts say that the fact that the testing software was left on the lines should have been apparent to anyone with a computer monitor networked to the count tabulator. 2. Eight memory packs from precincts were missing until a day, or two, after the election. When found, they were merged into the election results, adding 2,326 votes into the mayoral race. When this data was combined with the Election Day totals more than 8,500 votes were added mayoral votes, not the 2,326 that should have been added. The result of the discovery netted Mayor Kilpatrick approximately 225 more votes after the accumulation than merely adding the raw data. 3. Prior to the eight missing memory packs being found, the election results gave the Mayor a 52.79% win. It also gave Janice Winfrey, the City Clerk challenger, a 52.79% win. What is the probability that these percentages could be identical to the one hundredth percentile? After the merger of the eight missing memory packs into the totals, the Mayor’s percentage was driven down. 4. Sealed ballot boxes were found a week after the election. 5. Approximately 1,500 “Ambassador” AV ballots have been challenged on my behalf on Election Day." | ||
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal Post Number: 431 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 69.14.76.187 |
My handle at msu.edu if anyone wants the full email forwarded to them. | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 3234 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.73.32.125 |
the hatred of Helmut supporters is still strong. Name calling and the like. Even hopes of somebody getting shot. All from Helmut supporters? And they called for unity and fairness? Regardless, Helmut is doomed to crash and burn a second time as they discover state law says that if ballots cannot be counted, the certified results stand. So if Helmut finds faults with the ballots, he is out of luck. They will put those ballots aside (the box or precinct) and try to count what they can. After the FBI and State Secretary both said they were satisfied, what does Helmut think he will find? They are just giving into their hate. Sounds familiar like a sequel or deja vu. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2018 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 207.200.116.134 |
Funny how some of the same people around town are now "concerned about the cost" of a re-count, yet thought nothing of the millions of dollars in lawsuits (illegally fired/demoted police officers), extravagant credit card spending, credit card late fees, petty cash spending, petty cash theft, unbalanced budget, poor city bond rating, land/rental homes deals, kickbacks, contracts to friends/family, erroneous EPU overtime, unqualified friends/family on the payroll, etc. Deja vu indeed. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 688 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.195 |
mebbe they scart of sumthin | ||
Gmich99 Member Username: Gmich99 Post Number: 28 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 65.29.97.102 |
Metrodetguy Agreed, the cost of having a national joke for a mayor far exceeds $600,000.00 | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1329 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.212.213.111 |
Brian, the idea of Hendrix's supporters giving into hate is such a hypocritical statement coming from you. You have been giving into your hate for Hendrix since I don't know when. I would love to know what it was that Hendrix did to you to get you to hate him so. And what about name calling? You have been calling Hendrix "Helmut" eventhough you know that he prefers "Freman." However, you in no way see it as name calling. Brian, as always, you are one piece of work. Remember to tell us why you "hate" Hendrix so. Be a man for a change and answer a direct question, instead of running behind little boy responses. Show us on this forum that you are finally ready to grow up. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 2662 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
*waiting for typical, venomous Brian response accusing Royce of being a "Helmut" supporter.* So predictable. So sad. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 1499 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.105.27 |
Here we go again....... next thing you know we'll be having Mellodrama back.... and more paradigms and metrics....  | ||
Norm Member Username: Norm Post Number: 58 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 141.156.41.183 |
Just so its clear, not one ballot so far has been checked to determine the actual intent of the voter. All the certification process did so far was to make sure the number of ballots counted equaled the number of voters who actually voted in at a particular precinct. For example, if 56 people signed in at a precinct, then the state checked to make sure there were 56 total votes in that precinct. They have not checked to determine if the result said 30 votes for Kilpatrick and 26 votes for Hendrix, that there were actually 30 ballots that indicated a vote for Kilpatrick and 26 ballots marked for Hendrix. | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 529 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131 |
lets do a little math, Kwame 124,000 votes Hendrick 104,000 votes total 228,000 votes are you telling me that it is going to cost $3 to count a vote? They are counting then NOT buying them. Also, If Kwame had lost, HE would have been screaming for a recount on Wed. morning. Just more spinning from that geeky PR guy. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1433 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
As long as Jackie Currie was involved I'd still be questioning the outcome. Heck, even if I was KK, I'd almost wanna make sure. | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 354 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123 |
LMAO at Kilpatrick supporters screaming about wasting tax-payer money. That's just too funny. As far as the outcome goes, Kilpatrick will probably prevail. But I can't think of a more likely place than Detroit where a 14,000-vote descrepency can be found. This is truly the election that will never die. Let all of the spinning and hate of the election sequel begin anew. Detroit Mayoral Election 2005 II: The Recount Counting all the way up to the Superbowl Coming to a neighborhood near you in December. | ||
Skulker Member Username: Skulker Post Number: 3182 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.60.139.168 |
Huh. All the more reason to recount them and to discover any irregularities. IF ballots are being destroyed or altered, I want to know. There appears to be a mountain of evidence of either incomptence or malicious intent. In either case these alarming number of irregularities need to be addressed. What, if any, ballots were destroyed? What, if any, ballots have gone missing? What ballot counts don't match reported vote counts? A recount will force the cataloguing and investigation into these irregularities. I could find the $600,000 in matter of minutes for the City. They simply need to renegotiate their 1,500 leased telecommunitcation circuits from SBC down from the $6,000,0000 a year they pay a more market correct $3,000,000. Joe Harris recommended that four years ago. Just think, we could have a better communication system for the City and still have the Aquarium open...simply by following the AGs suggestion on one simple matter. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 1323 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.245 |
Don't forget his risk management suggestions estimated at 50 mil. | ||
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_ Post Number: 1093 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.220.230.150 |
The voters of Detroit are entitled to a fair and impartial election. The outcome is not going to change but the public needs closure on making sure this was a fair fight. Detroit wastes more money on trivial things, this is a right that can not be denied or shortchanged. | ||
Bostedguy Member Username: Bostedguy Post Number: 327 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 70.236.180.74 |
I might be wrong and sorry to post a maybe, but it seems to me from the FREEP that it was Kwame's campaign manager who threw out that $600,000 figure. Therefore, it is questionable given his alliance. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1760 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 4.224.195.64 |
Whatever I don't care. I am confident that the recount will show Kilpatrick as the winner. I think it is just kind of pathetic of Hendrix. Seriously take it out that it was Hendrix who lost and maybe it would have been Kilpatrick...I would still say waste! Why? Because he lost by 6% - 16,213 votes (think that was the number I heard on the radio this morning) - that is significant. If it was 1-2% would agree with Hendrix to do a recount - because as much as I don't care for him - if won legitimately he should be mayor. However, I don't think he had and he lost by a significant margin. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 2664 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
What's pathetic is that you think everyone wants a recount because they think it will change the outcome. How many more times does it have to be said that the outcome will almost definitely be the same, but that what matters is the democratic process? What aren't you getting through your head? As for wasting money, you have got to be kidding me. This is FAR more admirable than spending city money on yourself and your friends. | ||
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport Post Number: 27 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 68.60.133.115 |
All I have to say is that it took Freman long enough..... | ||
Wcpo_intern Member Username: Wcpo_intern Post Number: 1863 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 68.32.91.122 |
I have to agree with LMich. If there's an error in the process, it needs to be fixed. The final outcome of the election itelf is irrelevant to this matter. Think of it like a system/process audit. If there was maliscious behavior, people should be getting fired and jailed. If everything worked well. Kudos to Detroit. Only 228,000 voted out of nearly 900,000 residents. I would wildly estimate that comes to approximately 800,000 non-dead, real world voters. If the recount shows everything is kosher, it might just be some incentive for these folks to do their part and vote. Since a politician has very little power when they lose elections, they have very little reason to risk helping folks who are too lazy to give the simple thank you of a vote. | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 3236 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.71 |
Helmut supporters either have no memory or are unaware (a nice way of putting it with no name calling) of the process. There was a recount which exposed many errors which mirror the ones reported in Detroit and more. It was in Livonia about six years ago and the recount board chair stated that they never say anything so absurd, to paraphrase. I don't recall the exact words. But the votes could not be recounted and the certified results stand per state law. Why did Bush win Florida? Because the SOS is empowered. Check the law and understand what Currie has been complaining about for the past ten years as the SOS has hurt the voting process here in Detroit. So do a recount, get angry and then be satisfied that Helmut lost and the 'irregularities' stand. Just like Helmut would not endorse his polls because he could not stand behind them he has not endorsed his own recount request because he knows he can't win. He neglects to mention the Archer years and the problems encountered during the same process. He, as deputy, said the process was fine and that any reported problems were simply attacks on Detroit. How his personal desires has clouded his mind. Now he is just a shadow of his former self. He is losing whatever dignity he had after his hate filled campaign and sore winner/loser style. Even his strongest supporters are acknowledging that KK got the youth out to vote and left Helmut looking wondering what happened. Helmut thought he was going to ease to victory on those absentee's. NOT! Royce, let me know which poster goes by the handle of stupid since you and other Helmut supporters like to use that to identify folks. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 1502 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.6.153 |
Brian brings Dennis Archer up again.... (broken record)... he's been reading the Michigan Citizen waaaaaaaaaaayyyy to much. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 2665 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
Once again, "Helmut" this and "Helmut" that. What a parrot, and a political hack. People could say until they are blue in the face that it's all about the process and not about the outcome, but the words would never stick. Dense isn't even the word to describe that state of being. Brian, methinks the voices of reason are not resonating with you. Why don't you take off your "Helmut" just this once? Ok? lol | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4466 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.31.87 |
Pardon the Brian-esque post... Are the so-called Kilpatrick supporters afraid what the recount might show? Will they abide by the results? | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 533 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131 |
I saw Kawmee on the 11pm news, I walked away from it with the sense, Thou douth protest too much. My gut tells me something is up. This has got to be the most screwed up election in Detroit history. | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 1238 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.117.31 |
Seems that the County, the State, the FBI and the Court system all also think that there is something rotten in Detroit. "A fish stinks from the head down." State is ordered to seize ballet in Detroit election BY BEN SCHMITT FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER November 24, 2005 "Wayne County judge ordered the Michigan Secretary of State's Office on Wednesday to take control of all the ballots in the Nov. 8 election and keep them locked in a vault until a recount can be done." http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20051124/NEW S01/511240355 | ||
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin Post Number: 3332 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.249.238.211 |
Well, looks like Helmut wants to see his ass get kicked TWICE!! Damn, I hate to see a so-called Black man join the masochistic mindset of another culture!! So be it!! One more time ...  Black-atcha .... | ||
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin Post Number: 3333 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.249.238.211 |
Black-atcha ..... ROFLMBAO while watching the State (who ran the election) play CYA. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1761 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 4.224.93.107 |
Well lets see Jackie Currie is not worried. The stated locked them up after Hendrix's request. No one seems too worried of fraud but Hendrix. Sounds like a sore loser to me. | ||
Romanized Member Username: Romanized Post Number: 164 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.245.76.171 |
People have been worried about fraud for months. With this thug on the ballot how can you blame them? Everyone knows damn well election night there was all forms of vote chicanery goin' on. Why not just be queit and let the process play out. | ||
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin Post Number: 3334 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.201 |
I know nothing of the sort; but of course, my name is not "Everyone" either!! Naturally, I don't have eyes where I'm not physically present, unlike youself. I'm glad I don't have to rely on all my information coming from the commercial media. Go figure .... on your dumbass post, Romanized. Black-atcha ..... watching wannabes & some white supremacists cry over spilled milk like the real losers they are. | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 755 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.204 |
" I'm glad I don't have to rely on all my information coming from the commercial media." Right, you only pay attention to the media who have the same agenda as you do, and who always conveniently reinforce what you already believe. That's always so nice, especially if you crave the validation, as you do. ...Watching the forum's number-one professional victim act smug once again... | ||
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin Post Number: 3337 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.201 |
Figured 1 of those named in my post would respond!! ROFLMBAO!! btw: not smug at all, VERY ARROGANT!! and arrogant enough to say FUKK YOU, faggot ass punk!! Wanna do something about it?? eh?? Black-atcha ... showing NO respect for Fury-whatever | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 757 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.204 |
Arrogant, indeed. But what are you arrogant about, transplant? It's easy to make with the insults and threats while hiding behind a computer, bitter-ass old man. I wonder what you'd do if it really came time to mix it up? Poor 'Putin. You're SO put-upon and oppressed. Keep reveling in your victimhood, you sorry excuse for a human being. Life just isn't fair, is it? | ||
Rberlin Member Username: Rberlin Post Number: 237 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.210.25.222 |
We're talking about 14,000 votes! If Kilpatrick didn't tamper with the vote, or suspect someone else did, then he has nothing to lose from a recount. In fact he has everything to gain. There's no way that Hendrix is going to "hanging chad" his way to 14,000 votes, so the mayor and his supporters should just sit back and enjoy the vindication Hendrix is so graciously giving them. Unless there is something to hide. | ||
Jmy8 Member Username: Jmy8 Post Number: 2570 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 12.75.30.217 |
Nice to see that Rasputin's got faggots on the brain again. Makes me think he's got something going on with Reverend Plummer, you know, on the "down low." And what kind of human being would I be if I didn't offer Rasputin a bit of friendly Thanksgiving advice: If you spent your time in line at the shelter instead of thinking about man-on-man sex, you could get yourself a plate to eat and not be so frustrated and cranky. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1763 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.7.78 |
Ras - Lay off the faggot shit or I will find you and kick your ass. Rberlin - Good comment. Any good legacy he had will be shot to hell after the recount. | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 1584 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.73.55.127 |
Its not the recount I dread. No matter how I try, I just can't get ready for the international photo of the Mayor of Detroit in handcuffs. Guess he traded in his earring for wrist braclets. | ||
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin Post Number: 3340 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.249.238.211 |
Rberlin: The Mayor hasn't commented 1 way or the other. Go figure ..... on his asurety. JMil: you sound like those ex-urbanite dumb-asses, now. Had no problem with you supporting the candidate of your choise, but now it's over; and you're still slinging mud. Did your ass become assimilated?? (If so, let me remind you ...... you're still Black and a nigger behind closed doors when the grin is not IN your face!! & the Mayor has been charged with nothing pertaining to breaking the law!!) Go figure ..... Black-atcha ..... | ||
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin Post Number: 3341 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.249.238.211 |
choise ---> choice | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 3239 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.173 |
Helmut supporters are now sore losers. Its one thing the week of the election, but three weeks later and its just sour grapes. Especially when the conspiracy is unsupportive. | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 263 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 141.151.175.150 |
Who's a sore loser? Hendrix forever!  | ||
Fec Member Username: Fec Post Number: 47 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 4.165.123.237 |
I see you insulting jerks don't know the voting process. [Yeah, if the shoe fits, wear it. I called you jerks, because that what you all act like!] A candidate can only request a recount AFTER the numbers are OFFICIAL. Get it! With the prolonged mishandling of the voters' ballots, we finally heard from the board of canvassers. It seems that you all should be concerned about your rights as voters, but no, you all want to insult each other and not deal with REAL issues. What the hell is going on with your ballots, why are so many folks touching them, what is the real issue, and why are they being handed out like candy on Halloween. Talk about voting apathy? Where is the outrage! And you folks just want to talk about each other. How immature, disconcerning and silly of you adults. I'm disappointed, upset and some of you truly don't care about what's going on. If this were the 60s, which history does repeat itself, you all are pathetic and if the revolution [social change] came, some of you would be hung on telephone polls. Where is your SERIOUSNESS, YOUR RADICALNESS, YOUR CONCERN AND AWARENESS! Whew, I Got it Out and Off! Now you all can go back to your silly ass,joking statements as the process continue to be tainted and un-noticed by you On-Top-Of-Everything folks! | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1765 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.7.78 |
FEC - You are a tired old tramp. You show up here like some harpy to spout some stupid shit relating to your want-to-have a love affair with Hendrix. Crawl back under your rock and come out again in another four years. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4471 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.31.87 |
What are you afraid of with the recount? Are you afraid Kilpatrick may not come out on top after all? Yes, this recount will likely not influence the outcome of the election. But what's the harm in making sure the kind of grievous errors that happened on election night do not happen again? or are you just going to keep countering with stupid ad hominem attacks that we all know the moderators will let slide? | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 3510 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 207.74.111.77 |
ILD The recount is comming. And there's nothing you and or your Black Caesar can do to stop it. | ||
1honey Member Username: 1honey Post Number: 19 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
"God this is sad. What a waste of taxpayer dollars". A waste of taxpayer dollars, hell, where have you been for the pass 3.5 years. KK has spent more than 600k since he's been in office. Get real man!!! | ||
1honey Member Username: 1honey Post Number: 20 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
Also, now the Mayor wants the Wayne County Sheriffs Department to guard the ballots? Do you think that the county is guarding these ballots for free? NO!!! Who is wasting money now? http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20051126/NEWS01/ 511260338 Sheriff's office joins watch over Detroit ballots 2 judges divide on security needs November 26, 2005 Email this Print this BY KATHLEEN GRAY and BEN SCHMITT FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was granted a request Thursday to increase security for ballots from the Nov. 8 election. So who's minding the ballots from Detroit's election? Seems like just about everybody at this point. Responding to an emergency request from Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, a Wayne County judge, early Thursday, ordered the county sheriff's department to guard a Secretary of State office to make sure no one tampers with ballots cast in the Nov. 8 election. Those guards are in addition to the Michigan State Police troopers already protecting the ballots at the office in Detroit's New Center, where they were taken Wednesday after another Wayne County judge ordered them held for safekeeping. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1768 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.7.78 |
The entire thing is stupid...I don't know what Hendrix is trying to prove. And Aram I am not concerned about a thing. The recount will prove once again that Freman lost. | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 1286 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.212.227.169 |
ILD - for someone who isn't concerned, you sure do a lot of posting on the subject. | ||
Ltorivia485 Member Username: Ltorivia485 Post Number: 2197 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 68.255.167.63 |
1honey, Chief Judge Kelly will overrule the order. Everyone knows that Kwame Kilpatrick did some tampering with the ballots. The county has NO jurisdiction over the State. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1769 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.7.78 |
Fnemecek- I am not concerned but I think it is silly. Seriously if KK had done this (if he had lost by 5-6%) everyone would have flayed him alive! Ltorivia - "everyone knows that KK did some tampering with the ballots"...oh come on. How would have been possible? Are you for real? The FBI and the state of MI was crawling all over the election that day. Get real. | ||
Romanized Member Username: Romanized Post Number: 165 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.245.76.171 |
Rasputin First off, quit pretending like someone was paying attention to you. Second, I've talked with folk that interact with the thugs people all the time. The news media hasn't published the half of it. And you would want to call someone white and a racist because they don't buy your hack-atcha neo-militant bullshit. Poor baby, the world not kissing your ass enough. I guess you should call names. Grow up son. Honestly, this city's future is more than spilled milk, and it will officially die with KK at the helm. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 2668 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
While I don't like the way Kwame manages himself and the city government, at all, Detroit is flourishing in more ways than one DESPITE his leadership. Detroit will not die or succeed because of any one mayor. I thought we were all smart enough to realize that. If you (Romanized) are going to tell us that Detroit was better off 4-5 years ago than it is now, than you've truly lost all credibiility. You can hate the mayor all you want (personally, I think people are taking this whole thing (and politics in general) FAR too personally), but at the end of the day, no one mayor in ANY one city can kill or give life to a city in one (or even two) terms. Nothing short of a social revolution within both the city and metro will bring many of the neighborhoods back, which will have to include ALL of the citizens of Detroit. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1770 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 24.172.45.2 |
Lmichigan - Well said. | ||
1honey Member Username: 1honey Post Number: 22 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 208.39.170.77 |
The entire thing is stupid...I don't know what Hendrix is trying to prove. Funny that all you Kilpatrick supporters say the same line, "The entire thing is stupid". If the election was up and up, sit back and let them recount the ballots. Ltorivia485 1honey, Chief Judge Kelly will overrule the order. Good Chief Kelly needs to. All that damn midnight creepin' these folks are doing regarding this election. | ||
Skulker Member Username: Skulker Post Number: 3199 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.103.104.93 |
Then why were your panties in such a bunch about getting Sharon elected? According to you, ILD, all hell would break loose if she was not elected and that if Freman were to be elected that the world would likely end. Jesus, I hoped you and others would have gone away after the election, but I guess you're here to help stupidify this forum. | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 1587 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.73.55.127 |
LOL @ rasputin. Where is the love? I have been taking shots at the mayor for 4 years. I ain't about to stop now, just cuz November 8th has passed. Don't like the dude. That did not change just because he was re-elected. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 2671 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
Yes, but there are legitimate criticisms, and then there is the sad hackery seen so often, here. I want to see Hendrix go through with this, and get to the bottom of any possible ethics violations or crimes. At the same time, some on the Hendrix side should be ashamed of how they've dealt with the outcome of this election. Political hackery is probably the saddest thing this country has seen in the last few years of our democracy. | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 1588 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.73.55.127 |
lmich, as wonderful as that all sounds. You know it is tripe. Folks still talked about reagan, clinton, bush, engler, etc... after they were re-elected. I have been upfront from the beginning, I had no real love for McPhail or Hendrix. I would support ANYBODY BUT KWAME. No amount of name calling, or can't we all get along crap is going to make me change MY opinion. This was the first (and probably the last) election I ever got involved with, simply because of strong distaste for the mayor. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1771 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 24.172.45.2 |
Jmil - You said you have "no...real love for Hendrix"? And you worked on his campaign as a volunteer...that is why he didn't win. People like you supporting him Skulker - You are just a ridiculous angry nerd - I bet you get all blotchy faced when you get mad? And anyone that wants to participate in this forum should be able to...I think a few of the folks on here are boarder on insane but they are entitled to their opinions as well. Calm down and take a chill pill little man. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4479 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 141.213.175.233 |
Wow. So angry. Is that how the so-called Kilpatrick supporters respond to adversity? are the so-called Kilpatrick supporters afraid of the recount? will they handle the results with similar anger? | ||
Bussey Member Username: Bussey Post Number: 74 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.212.33.175 |
Boo to the thugish ruggish mayor "Yall's Boy" got the "street vote" which gave him four more years to spend our money on strawberry's replacement and the bullets to take care of her. It is appalling that a public administrator so incompetent could get reelected. The next four years will be the most lassitude period of my life. why did a jack asss like him win>? | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 1589 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.73.55.127 |
ILD, he didn't win, because he did not get enough votes. As a volunteer, I did quite well thank you. Just because I didn't gush all over my candidate like a young boy discovering his first love, does not mean that I can't support them. You should know by now, you can't set the rules for me. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1775 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 24.172.45.2 |
Aram - You can start responding when you move to the city. Grow up little boy and finish college first. I like how you take your anger at me into other threads...so juvenile. Then again what would we expect. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4484 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 141.213.175.233 |
The so-called Kilpatrick supporters are now resorting to playing the residency card. Is this what Kilpatrick tells his volunteers to do? Is this how the so-called Kilpatrick supporters are told to respond to satire? | ||
Bussey Member Username: Bussey Post Number: 75 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.212.33.175 |
friday night at 9pm in front of the bronx it a RUMBLE IN MIDTOWN Kilpatrick supporters against Hendrix supporters this might put an end to this shit bicker enough already! can you say redundant? | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4485 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 141.213.175.233 |
if you don't see the tongue-in-cheek parody in my last two posts in this thread, you're apparently skipping over every post Brian has made in the past month. which i guess isn't a bad thing, but I'm just messing with ILD. And he/she/it isn't getting the joke. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 1776 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 24.172.45.2 |
Since most of the Hendrix supporters live in the suburbs I am sure us tough ass Detroiters will kick your suburban butts! | ||
William_x Member Username: William_x Post Number: 179 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.90.4 |
Valid Point ILOVEDETROIT. |
