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Detroitman
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Post Number: 879
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 8:48 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.modeldmedia.com/dev elopmentnews/condos75.aspx
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Broken_main
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Post Number: 551
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Posted From: 198.109.44.2
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 8:57 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aaahhhh yeah...Back in the day, the buildings were used primarily for the running of drugs and prostitution. I guess with the fire across the street, there will be ample parking as well(if they bought the lot). This area is surely picking up....waaaay better than it used to be. seems a little pricey to me for the sq. footage.
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Genesyxx
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Post Number: 370
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Umm... maybe clean up the area a little. maybe..
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Merchantgander
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Post Number: 1402
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 150.198.164.127
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would like to meet the person that would shell out that much money to live in that area. Maybe if the other 5 or 6 buildings were being rehabbed too.
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Blondy
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Post Number: 898
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 10:49 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hear you MerchantGander, I am all about the revilatization of the corridor, but this block is ROUGH.

Although, I would LOVE to see this spread all the way up to Martin Luther King, it will be wonderful to have another connector from downtown to midtown!!
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Merchantgander
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Post Number: 1403
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 10:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will be the prick and say it the city has to relocate the rest of the homeless shelters if this area is going to connect midtown with downtown.
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E_hemingway
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Post Number: 413
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.42.176.123
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 11:02 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very true. The city needs to capitalize on the renewal movement in the area and one of the best things it can do it move the homeless shelters. I suggest the shelters be relocated to West Bloomfield. :-)
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Itsjeff
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Post Number: 5218
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Posted From: 208.27.111.125
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 11:12 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Uh, Gander, since you live about a mile away, it could be argued that you "live in the area."
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Merchantgander
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Post Number: 1404
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 11:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I might be a mile away but there isn’t a homeless shelter and crack house next door to me either. If there was I would expect I would be paying less then I do now.
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Barnesfoto
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Post Number: 1580
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

perhaps the developers can use the Ansonia Hotel as a selling point..."Close to 24 hour convenience store".
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Jmy8
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Post Number: 2618
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 12.75.23.151
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 11:42 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The whole corner is being coverted. The Atlanta, The Ansonia, and the small building on Henry for which Marc Allen had a sign on the GAR building.

My understanding is that parking will be squeezed among the three buildings in the back in a small verticle garage. Don't know the odds on that one but the idea is more forward thinking than tearing down more buildings for parking.

Will be a boon to the neighborhood and the same group has other projects in the pipeline.

Now if the police would only enforce city ordinances, maybe those party stores wouldn't have such a blighting effect on that corner.
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Merchantgander
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Post Number: 1405
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 11:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe the police need to enforce more than city ordinances in that area. I drive down third and cass coming home form work a couple of times a week and the shit you see is amazing. The area has more then blight issues, that area just needs more police presence period. There is too much potential in the area for the city to waste it.
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Dabirch
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Post Number: 1240
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Posted From: 208.44.117.10
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

with a greater police presence, where would the suburbanites/tourists get their hookers and crack?
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Crew
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Post Number: 771
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

crack is SO 2002
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Dabirch
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Post Number: 1242
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So are suburbanites and tourists...
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Merchantgander
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Post Number: 1408
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michigan Ave. where the Hollywood hookers reside until the superbowl is over. :-)
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1953
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Post Number: 640
Registered: 12-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hookers are forever
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Crew
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did anyone else hear the story on WDET this morning about drugs and teenagers? Street drugs are out. Prescription drugs are back in.
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Itsjeff
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dammit! I'm heavily invested in meth futures.
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Detroitduo
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Post Number: 391
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So... I live on Woodward, across the street from Henry, about 2 blocks from this development. That side of Woodward is really a rough neighborhood. I have walked many times, in the summer, from my place to Harry's, which is practically next door to this place. Overall, there is major work needed on the streets and the street lighting is terrible. I am not sure how they will sell these places, but I hope they are lobbying the City to come in and help out with these infrastructure problems.

Personally, I love this area, but it is ROUGH. There are 3 very cool bars within 2 blocks of this place. The Comet, The techno place (forget the name, but it's a number, like 2100 or something) and Harry's. The architecture of these buildings is truely amazing. I am really glad to see this happening there. I wish them luck with sales, though. It will be difficult and slow.

Another difficult spot will be the Eddystone, but I think once these developments start (and if they can get a good police presence), it will start pushing the unsightly's out of the way. This project would be a TRUE gentrification of the area. This is one of the few areas within the Midtown borders that is a poor/homeless stronghold. I hope it takes, because I look forward to being able to walk to these bars without being scared. :-)
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Gravitymachine
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Post Number: 703
Registered: 05-2005
Posted From: 198.208.159.18
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

definitely my least favortie part of cass to ride my bike down...would be nice to see it cleaned up.
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Dabirch
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have no idea how the are going to create a demand for the Eddystone.

It seems like that little triangle pocket would be about the last area to fill in in the entire cooridor.
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Ddaydave
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Post Number: 149
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 68.61.104.245
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 2:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroitduo I was in the comet last night for a beer
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Jt1
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Posted From: 198.208.251.23
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 2:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One issue with the homeless in the area (politics and opinions aside) is that the Salvation Army sends a meal truck there 3 times a day.

If I am in that situation I would also stay near an NSO and my meals.
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Danny
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 2:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Condos at the po'folks community. That would be interesting.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 4:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good news, but the highlight of the thread for me was 1953's comment that: "Hookers are Forever." lol
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Jenniferl
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Post Number: 218
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 12:17 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I walked through that area last summer, en route from WSU to downtown. Normally, I go out of my way and walk down Trumbull or one of the North Corktown side streets, but on this particular day I wanted to stop in at Birdland so I stayed on Cass. It was scary. Not because anybody bothered me but because there was nobody around. And I mean, nobody. It was the middle of the afternoon on a nice summer day, but once I got south of Temple all the people had disappeared. No homeless folks, no hookers, no drug dealers. It was like a ghost town down there and it gave me the creeps. I veered over to Woodward and continued my journey there because I didn't want to cross I-75 at Cass.
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Soulhawk
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Post Number: 250
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 9:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have always wondered why the city let that area of Cass get so run down. With Cobo, Cass Tech, Wayne State, Masonic Temple and the Fisher all along the same few mile stretch it would seem that Cass would have been a street to preserve at all cost.
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Itsjeff
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 10:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I remember thinking the same thing in the 1980s when I first got here. Michigan Bell anchored one end, General Motors the other with Wayne State in between. You'd think that Cass would have been great.
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Ilovedetroit
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Post Number: 1880
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 11:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Awesome. I want a condo. Anyone else tired of a house?
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Bussey
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 12:27 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let GEntrIfiCatiOn Ring!



Just get all the way to Woodbridge while you are at it...
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Soulhawk
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Post Number: 251
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 1:17 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bussey please please dont start that tired debate again.
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Llyn
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 3:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*What debate?* (he innocently remarked).
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Michigansheik
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 5:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I drove around there a couple weeks ago, it is pretty rough, sidewalks are trashed, and homeless drinkers everywhere.
Hopefully the city has agreed to help with lighting and sidewalks, etc. that could help with sales.
Where could the homeless shelters go? What about turning some recently closed schools into shelters?
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Jmy8
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Post Number: 2625
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Posted From: 12.75.31.226
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There aren't any homeless shelters on that corner, but there are three party stores within 50 feet of each other.

It's purely a policing issue.

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