  Atl_runner Member Username: Atl_runner Post Number: 1748 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.209.118.72 |
I know the debate has already started, but here is some useful data brought over from http://www.lionbacker.com. This does not take into account future cuts from individual teams. Among some notable potential moves would be Phillip Rivers in San Diego and Patrick Ramsey in Washington D.C. IMO, McCown could be someone for the Lions to look at.
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Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2789 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.214.170 |
McCown wouldn't be bad, and probably wouldn't cost much. Pickings are slim. My guess is some team in better shape then the Lions will land Rivers. Based on that list, I wouldn't be surprised if the Lions kept Harrington and threw the job open for competition in training camp. Meanwhile, they can address their biggest need, a revamped offensive line. And I'll wait for the first Michigan fan/forumer to make the case for Todd Collins. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1495 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Ewww... as bad as Joey was this year, I'd still have to say he was better than 95% of the guys on this list. The only two that stand out on that list are Drew Brees and David Carr as having something a little more. Perhaps we could trade for them but beyond that, free agency looks pretty bad for the QB position next year. | ||
Bongman Member Username: Bongman Post Number: 893 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128 |
We need Joey to renegotiate. If he's going to play like Trent Dilfer, we can't afford the +10 Million he's going to make. Roy Williams personifies the Lions. So much talent, yet never playing to his true potential. If he's a go to receiver, he can't be dropping passes all over the field. Cory Slesinger must go ! If you're carrying a fullback on your roster, and you don't feel confident enough to give him the ball at the 2 yard line to score, you're useless and dead weight. Adios iron head ! If we're going to lose all these guys to injuries every year, the Lions might as well scrimmage between games like real teams do. There's no reason to have walk-through practices since we already walk through most of the games. With Charles Rogers being one toke away from a year's suspension, how could any team rely on him to even be your # 2 receiver ? Adios Chuck ! | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 7956 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.71.67.177 |
Warner (who the Lions should have grabbed in the first place) OR Hasselbeck. | ||
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport Post Number: 46 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 68.60.133.115 |
I say David Carr, Doug Flutie, or Drew Brees. I am sorry if this sounds stupid, but if I were those good players, I would want to come to Detroit because you will most likely make more money, get alot of publicity, and you will have a chance to be the hero of a team. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1497 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Out of the Carr, Flutie or Brees scenario, I don't think their respective teams would let Carr or Brees go. Flutie would be willing to go anywhere he can play but how old is he now? And would you trust him to be your starting QB at his age? My thought is that Joey will re-negotiate (his choice or not) and try to give a go at it here. Roy Williams still has faith in him (pretty vocal supporter actually) as does Charles Rogers. I think Charles Rogers will also have to re-negotiate his contract and have it ladened with incentive and out clauses all over it. My gut feeling is that if Rogers ends up leaving Detroit and going to another team, he'll come back and scorch us. All of these guys still have a tremendous up side to them and as long as Millen is here (and he will be... sigh), he's gonna live or die by them. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2790 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.166.231 |
Charles Rogers will be gone. If he gets his head out of his ass, he might end up being a decent player but the guy's a cancer. As for Flutie, please, the guy's got nothing left in the tank. And Goat, I think you have your Hasslebeck's confused, this is the benchwarmer married to the chick on "The View" not the Seattle QB. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 7959 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.156.95.65 |
Czar, I stand corrected. That was who I was thinking of...Tim Hasselbeck is a no body. Mybad. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2791 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.166.231 |
Also, it's possible Oakland might be finished with Kerry Collins. | ||
Evelethcdenver Member Username: Evelethcdenver Post Number: 80 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.180.254.19 |
The best on that list for the Lions is Drew Brees. But I am pretty sure he is going to stay in San Diego. Actually, Joey is better than all of those quarterbacks on that list. Keep Joey, get vetern recievers who can catch the ball and are not afraid to go in the middle of the field and take a hit from a defensive back. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1498 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Evelethcdenver might just have struck the nail on the head with the suggestion about having a veteran wide out here to help out the young receivers. Ever since we started drafting the slew of young receivers, no one has really taught them how to go about out foxing the other teams veteran DBs, catching the ball properly, and even on a more important vein-- how to behave on and off the field. Is it time to bring back a guy like Herman Moore to the fold somehow?? | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2792 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.188.150 |
Maybe Millen can bring back Bill Schroeder? LOL | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9660 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Not sure what all the debate is about, Joey will be the QB next year. | ||
Ggg Member Username: Ggg Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 69.220.61.47 |
Kitna played great the year before he was replaced by Carson Palmer. Was that two years ago now? Anyway, maybe he still has something left in the tank. | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 2182 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.202.227.12 |
yo fugg the QB I'd say that we need to bring back Wayne Fontes AND get rid of Matt "I can't build a good team to save my life" Millen... For real... | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9662 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Millen will still be here too. Personally, I say forget about a QB, GM, and whatever else. This teams top 2 priorities is a coach that can teach discipline and an offensive line. Millen has brought in the talent if you ask me. The team just needs a line in front of them to block for both the running AND passing game. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2795 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.188.150 |
Yeah, too bad Millen orchestrated the current offensive line. As this morning's Detroit News reported, Jeff Hartings sure would have made a good long term keeper, as well as Mike Compton. | ||
Marcnbyr Member Username: Marcnbyr Post Number: 614 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.13.13 |
If they are going for a veteran....John Kitna. If they are going for a younger guy....David Garrard. They would have to trade for him, but he at least has had some success starting in games that still mean something. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 7975 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.228.201.179 |
Here's an even better QB Detroit may look at... http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/s tory/5201272 | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1506 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Given the options ot retire happily and play for the Lions during a serious bottom of the barrel rebuild, I'd opt for retirement. | ||
Marcnbyr Member Username: Marcnbyr Post Number: 618 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.13.13 |
Seriously...the Lions are in the exact same position as the Packers...why would he want to come here? | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2801 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.209.45 |
I think the Packers are in better shape than the Lions. Their offense was decimated by injuries this year and they have a good pass defense. They just need to shore up their offensive line a bit and they can contend for the playoffs, but probably not a Super Bowl. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9664 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Are you fogetting that this is one of the ONLY teams that the Lions literally kicked the shit out of at the start of the season? Something like 38-7. This was well before their injuries. Its ok, you can take it back if you want. haha | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2802 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.209.45 |
You must have been drunk or cleaning your gun, it was 17-3. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 29 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
Being a UW Badger from WI, the Lions can win all their annual games but two, as long as their season record is worse than the Pack's. Bret was planning on retiring today (so it was said all last week and today) but he had cancelled his planned press conference scheduled after the game today and it was later announced that Favre would not be present at the Packer's press conference tomorrow, where anybody on the Pack could participate. So it appears that Bret might not retire after all. All the Pack needs is one more effective OG for pass protection. Favre had way too many hurries this year, leading to sacks, fumbles, etc. Any one who happens to QB the Lions is in a similar predicament. Good show for Joey today! I think he'll be around as long as Millen is, and the Fords tend to stick with their people, even when they have losing seasons - which is nearly always. | ||
Alexei289 Member Username: Alexei289 Post Number: 949 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.61.183.223 |
... Cant anyone see that if the Lions had an offsensive line, they would be a dominent team in the league? Our defense is good, and can improve... and our offense had all the tools it needs other than an offensive line that has been non existant. You wonder why we have a fullback that is never used, its because he has to pick up the damn slack for Kelly BUTT ler and fat stupid ass Raiola. Damien Woody isnt that great either... WE NEED to keep Backus... hes the only decent one on the damn team. If we draft a new line, some young kids that we can beef up... we might have a chance.. other than that, we need an offensive coordinator that makes only a FEW plays that everyone can accomplish in their sleep. Eliminating dropped passes... thats 3+ more wins right there (in terms of how dropped passes killed us). | ||
Mike Member Username: Mike Post Number: 552 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.41.109.36 |
Charles Batch on the Steeler's roster looks like he may be a good pick-up. | ||
Alexei289 Member Username: Alexei289 Post Number: 950 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.61.183.223 |
RE-TREAD! and they usually suck... | ||
Knocturnal Member Username: Knocturnal Post Number: 61 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 24.176.50.206 |
Steve Mcnair...he will probably be a cap casualty of the Titans. He still has some game left in him, although he has been injury prone of late. Most importantly though, he is mobile, which is a must because of the o-line. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1512 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
McNair might not be a bad fit in here but he's been about as fragile as wicker furniture as of late. And he'll be 33 next year. I wonder what kind of money he'll want if he'd even consider playing here. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2804 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 216.196.135.238 |
Man, I want some of what Alexei is smoking. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1519 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Who's soul do we have to sell in order to get Texas' Vince Young?? | ||
Ggg Member Username: Ggg Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 69.221.94.229 |
I'll be surprised if Vince Young doesn't go to the Texans now. That's his home city I believe. I wouldn't take the entire Lions team for the #1 pick. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1540 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Ggg- The Texans have some sort of commitment to their young QB, David Carr already. I think they need a RB more so than another QB there. I know it'd be the sexy pick for them to go with but I think sentimentality is gonna go out the window & the team need is going to over ride the Vince Young pick. | ||
Rusty Member Username: Rusty Post Number: 369 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.194.127.158 |
This guy will probably get a shot next year.
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Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 2827 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.164.120 |
I also read a report that if the Titans draft Leinart or Young, the Lions might be interested in trading for Billy Volek. Sounds like Harrington's days are numbered. | ||
Rusty Member Username: Rusty Post Number: 370 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.194.127.158 |
why are the Titan's drafting Leinart or Young when they have a possible replacement in Billy Volek? Millen, don't trade for others trash unless its a 6th or 7th round pick. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9730 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228 |
Don't mind him Rusty, he's a Bengals fan. Who dey? Dey be the ones not in the playoffs! LOL | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1542 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Harrington isn't gonna go anywhere until we see what the new coach's plans are. A lot will depend on what the new coach will want whether Harrington stays or not. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9745 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228 |
Casey Printers signed with KC. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 1588 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189 |
Okay, Marinelli's the coach now. Joey staying or leaving?? |
