  Jmarx Member Username: Jmarx Post Number: 15 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.81.180.215 |
Curious if anyone here lives or is familiar with the McGraw-Lonyo/Cecil area of SW Detroit. Thinking of purchasing a property and am looking to find out first-hand about the area. (neighborhood stability, crime, etc...) | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 3611 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 207.74.111.30 |
Jmarx, The McGraw-Lonyo/Cecil area of Southwest Detroit is quite a rough ghettohood, filled with Hamtramckesque wood frame homes. And rough up mom and pop businesses along Michigan Ave. The ghettohoods over there is a mixture of Arabs, Mexicans, Latinos, whites, and blacks. However there's a growing number of ethnic Arabs and Hispanics moving into that area | ||
Steelworker Member Username: Steelworker Post Number: 526 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 84.137.166.173 |
Always positive huh danny. I work in the area and almost all of my coworkers live in that neighborhood. It does appear like hamtramck very much. Danny was right its becoming increasingly middleeastern. What is the price in that area? | ||
Ganib_ganabs Member Username: Ganib_ganabs Post Number: 43 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 24.192.38.58 |
I think the area has a lot of illeagal immigrants, and I always hear of horrible violent stories, but to me they aren't random acts of violence, but rather violence between people who know each other. Its a heavily drug infested neighborhood, but if you keep to your self no one bothers you. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 3615 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 207.74.111.30 |
Nah, The ethnic Arabs over in that Detroit ghettohood are mostly Yemenese families. They don't rough up the area or do any crime reports of any domestic violence. They are within the superstrong Islamic and Muslim cultures and they clash or quarrel with and non-Muslims. However, they will respect and non-Muslims folks who are moving into their area. The homes over there avarage between $40,000 to $120,000 depending on the value of the homes. The ethnic Iraqi, Yemenese and Lebanese Muslims are doing a excellent job keeping up the ghettohoods and they are countinuing to fill up that area until somebody else comes to claim it. | ||
Brandon48202 Member Username: Brandon48202 Post Number: 41 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.248.15.192 |
The area has good a good mix of people, housing stock turnover, retail. Here are some places currently for sale in the neighborhood: http://pub.realcomponline.com/ List/5/R/Z/31TS3GDA4JS5RZ.htm | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 429 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.61.98.175 |
A friend of mine had a huge apartment there a few years ago, astonishing. All wood and brick. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 27 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
SW Detroit has its own web site, in case it wasn't listed before: Inside Southwest | ||
Ddaydave Member Username: Ddaydave Post Number: 200 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 67.149.185.244 |
I have had that website bookmarked for a while http://www.insidesouthwest.com / its good website but it doesn`t get updated very often much of the news is old news | ||
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto Post Number: 1607 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.2.149.85 |
Prices in that area seem pretty good. Generally, it's a safe area of the city, but one set of low-life neighbors can make your life a pain. But's that's pretty much true anywhere. Asking folks what the block is like is a good research tool. One other thing that you should know: The 4th and 3rd precincts have been merged, with no increase in the number of patrols...And a post on another thread suggested that our new "public safety mall" on Fort St. will actually not be a functioning precinct but an administrative center. Southwest Detroit used to have THREE police precincts. Now we have one dysfunctional one. So a burglar alarm or a couple dogs would be a good investment. | ||
Jmarx Member Username: Jmarx Post Number: 16 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.81.180.215 |
Thanks for the insight... To be honest, I was curious about the McGraw-Lonyo/Cecil area as I recently discovered that a house that was in the family for many years (sold it ~20yrs ago) is currently for sale. I suppose the nostalgic part of me wants to re-purchase the property, which is what motivated my original post -- although that is probably not too practical. Anyway, thanks again for the info. And as a side, if anyone happens to have some neighborhood pictures, please send them my way.... I’ll also have to check out that InsideSouthwest.com website too... | ||
Rustic Member Username: Rustic Post Number: 1920 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 130.132.177.245 |
There was a recent thread Sanger Street in Detroit about a neighborhood just north of that one which had a similar demographic history. Originally scots-irish lower middle/working class, in the post war era it filled-up with immigrant and first generation working class eastern european ethnic Catholic homeowners (imagine little old babas in their basmas (pick yer language, probably half a dozen might have been represented in those blocks) rinsing their front stoops every morning) not sure who were the landlords back then. Starting in the late 60's first generation Syrian/Lebanese began quietly buying up property here and there and renting it to immigrants fresh from the old countries. In the mid-seventies appalachain whites (generally immigrant/first generation Detroiters from the Lower Cass corridor, Woodbridge, St. Annes, Hubbard-Richard, Corktown, Briggs ... and some directly off the bus up from KY, TN, WV, & OH) began to move into those neighborhoods in large numbers. Figure either the property owners must have been reluctant to sell or rent to working class blacks (who were higher up on the economic ladder but anyway ...) or working class blacks prefered the nicer neighborhoods up GR or Joy or Plymouth, whatever .... Anyway these newer residents were younger, poorer and had different priorities when it came to maintaining their property cw the existing demographic. By the late 80's working poor blacks in significant numbers and some hispanics began moving into these neighborhoods. imo Danny pegs the more recent neighborhood demographics accurately. Yay Detroit! | ||
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba Post Number: 2929 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 192.220.139.20 |
Echoing Hamtramck makes sense for the Southwest side. There were thousands of Polish in the neighborhod for generations. Michigan Ave., Fort Street, W. Warren, Livernois, were filled with Polish churches, stores, and families. Many remain today, but also many have gone suburban in this generation. You'll find good old Westside Poles even in Brighton by now kibitzing in Polish down along the creek in the park out there. jjaba, sociologist. | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 2461 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.212.26.75 |
Hey Jjaba, not just Poles. Ukranians, Magyars(Hungarians), Slovacs, Armenians, Maltese, Syrian. Lebanese as well as others including a small Jewish population (there is a small former Synagogue just off Michigan) inhabited and impacted that area. Add to that the above mentioned groups. Damn, I miss the Kielbasa and lunchmeats made in those small stores. Perfect with the bread made in those bakeries that dotted the neighborhood....ummm, crusty with delicious flavor. | ||
Swpablo Member Username: Swpablo Post Number: 17 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.255.247.80 |
I live on central, couple blocks north of McGraw. I bought my house in late '97. I have never been broken into, never been robbed, never had any problems. i am definately lucky because bad stuff does happen around here, but honestly, i love my neighborhood, i dont care what anyone says. I have white, black, mexican and arabic neighbors. Mexicans are becoming the majority and bringing up the nieghborhood. I could go on and on about this area but im short on time. -pablo | ||
Billybbrew Member Username: Billybbrew Post Number: 106 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 205.188.116.201 |
SW Pablo, drop me an e-mail please... | ||
Jmarx Member Username: Jmarx Post Number: 18 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.81.180.215 |
I don't blame you for loving that neighborhood, SW Pablo. The house we had was on Springwells just north of McGraw (just a couple blocks away from you if I remember correctly). Glad to hear you're having a good experience there -- would love to hear more about the area if you get the chance. (and hopefully the "bad stuff" you refer too isn't too bad...) |
