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Psip
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Post Number: 744
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 69.246.13.131
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 7:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The building permit cashers office was broken into over the holiday weekend. The safe was cracked. No signs of forced entry.
No amount of cash was determined to be missing.
Waiting for a link to the story.
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Mind_field
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Post Number: 455
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 209.240.205.61
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 8:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, a relative of mine went downtown and had to go to city hall on Friday, Dec. 30. She said she called twice just to double check that they were open. She drove 50+ miles to city hall to find that they were closed, and cited this as more typical Detroit incompetance of even the simplest, most fundamental issues. She said they could have easily put on their voice recording that they were closed.
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Drm
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Post Number: 767
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 69.215.76.215
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 9:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Uh-oh... is the building permit office going to flee to the suburbs now?
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Username: Motorcitymayor2026

Post Number: 329
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 71.10.63.140
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 9:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

most building permits are....
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Gravitymachine
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Username: Gravitymachine

Post Number: 722
Registered: 05-2005
Posted From: 68.255.242.100
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 9:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol mcm!

does this building have security?!? its city hall for chrissakes, you know the building that houses the entirety of the city's government?!, you'd think they'd have a few people checking the place out from time to time when its closed.....
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Psip
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Post Number: 745
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 69.246.13.131
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 9:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Still nothing from the media sources. It might be on at 10 or 11 tonight.
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Eap
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Username: Eap

Post Number: 1227
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 68.255.244.145
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 9:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

STFU.


quote:

This info is from SEMCOG's website as of September 2005.

1.Detroit-721 units
2.Macomb Township-664-units
3.Canton Township-631-units
4.Shelby Township-556-units
5.Novi-519-units
6.Chesterfield Township-426-units
7.Van Buren Township-383-units
8.Northville Township-272-units
9.Romulus-235-units
10.Brownstown Township-211-units
http://www.semcog.org/Data/Bui ldingPermits/index.htm


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Motorcitymayor2026
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Username: Motorcitymayor2026

Post Number: 330
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 71.10.63.140
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 9:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just kidding, Eap. Lighten up!
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Lmichigan
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Username: Lmichigan

Post Number: 2938
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 67.172.95.197
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 11:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like it may have been an inside job, but there is no way to tell without details.
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Drm
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Post Number: 768
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 68.251.225.69
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 12:10 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

just kidding, Eap. Lighten up!


One condition to kidding is that what you say must actually be funny.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Username: Motorcitymayor2026

Post Number: 331
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 71.10.63.140
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 12:48 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gravity found it amusing lol.

had it been farther from the truth, it may have been "funny."

In all seriousness though, it is great to finally see Detroit at the top of the list, and all of the development going on in the city. It is turning around.
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Goose
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 69.47.83.217
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 2:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mind field, i did the same thing, im in the real estate field, the city's online property information website has been down for at least two weeks now, so i had to venture down to city hall to get information on two properties, first time i went they were closed (no mention on phone messages or on the website regarding the holiday hours)- oh well

second time down, went to two different departments, finally found someone with a computer that worked, waited behind four other people needing property information, finally got what i needed, what normally would have taken me 5 minutes on the web site had it been working took me 2 1/2 hours and also resulted in a parking ticket

i can understand a website being down a day or two, but over two weeks, and the people at city hall had no clue about it, just said they don;t deal with the web.....
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Metrodetguy
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Post Number: 2116
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 207.200.116.134
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 3:46 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well someone has to pay for the innauguration, Christmas cards, and recount team (attorneys, catered lunches, paid "volunteer" observers, etc.)...

Inside job indeed
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Genesyxx
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Post Number: 377
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 209.69.165.10
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 10:07 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can safely say that the amount stolen was greatly underexaggerated. Word around here is close to $100,000. You know, just to put the city's business out there.
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Sharmaal
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Username: Sharmaal

Post Number: 511
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 136.2.1.103
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 10:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20060104/NEWS01/ 601040317

The link as requested.
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1953
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Username: 1953

Post Number: 656
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 209.104.146.146
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 11:20 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yesterday I called a city council members office twice to make sure I could deliver something, and when I walked over to drop it off, there was nobody around. Lights off, doors locked. There was a sign on the door that told the DHL guys to wave at the security camera when they had something to drop off, but that tactic didn't work for me. Probably, no one was watching the cameras.
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Susanarosa
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Username: Susanarosa

Post Number: 617
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 208.39.170.90
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 12:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Council lobby closes at 4:30. Most offices remain open past that time.

Unfortunately some members of the Council Sgt. at Arms are not very good at their jobs.

Next time, if you have to get there after 4:30, bring your cell phone and give the members' office a call.
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1honey
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Username: 1honey

Post Number: 47
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 208.39.170.90
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 1:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Sounds like it may have been an inside job, but there is no way to tell without details".

LOL, I guess the first clue would be NO FORCED ENTRY!!!


20,000 nice bonus for an employee.
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Morena
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Username: Morena

Post Number: 391
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 216.45.2.138
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 6:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's see, now the City's total est. debt is $300,020,000.00.

(Message edited by Morena on January 04, 2006)
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Metrodetguy
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Username: Metrodetguy

Post Number: 2119
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 69.218.77.176
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 6:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed Genesyxx. I've heard that the amount stolen is actually in the six figures, and that the City is attempting to downplay the incident to the media/public. Again, inside job indeed.
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Pjazz
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Username: Pjazz

Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 69.212.44.222
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 8:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Investigate employees who have been laid of Hmmm
Alonzo Bates? Just kidding. This really sucks from a city that desparatley needs income. Somebody needs to be fired allowing this much money to be stolen.
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Ray1936
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Username: Ray1936

Post Number: 177
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 207.200.116.134
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 8:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Somebody needs to be fired for just allowing that much cash to sit around unattended for two weeks. That's just plain dumb.
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Gdub
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Username: Gdub

Post Number: 942
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 68.248.15.192
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 8:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fire the whole freakin staff, dammit. This is what happens when supervisors hire their cousins and boyfriend's kids and neighbors best friend and so on. A neverending cavalcade of incompetent boobery. Serves them right. At least maybe now there'll be some attention paid to the importance of strict hiring practices and solid human resource management.

(Message edited by g-dub on January 04, 2006)
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Metrodetguy
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Username: Metrodetguy

Post Number: 2122
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 69.221.39.43
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 8:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As Rasputin would no doubt say...

"Since when do strict hiring practices have anything to do with 'solid human resource management' (or 'professionalism')"?? You have some ignorant misplaced schitt, in your post, there!!"

Black-atcha .....
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Damon
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Username: Damon

Post Number: 634
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 172.133.211.86
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 2:28 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What a DISGRACE.
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Mike
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Username: Mike

Post Number: 553
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 66.227.165.194
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 9:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Many companies do not allow any one related to you in any shape of form work in the same building, let alone the same department.
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Fury13
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Username: Fury13

Post Number: 808
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 69.14.122.204
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 9:52 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gdub, what do you know about City of Detroit hiring practices? The hiring process for city employees who are civil servants is much different than for mayoral appointees. Prospective civil servants are rigidly evaluated, and have to take a career-field related test in most cases (and I will tell you, mine was not easy). They investigate your background, give drug tests, etc.

Regarding employees who are related to (or close friends with) each other: this seems to be more common in the Kilpatrick mayoral appointee circle. Mayoral appointees are just that: they are appointed by, and serve at the pleasure of, the Mayor.

Most city employees are civil servants. Most civil servants employed by the City, I have found, have a good work ethic, and want to do their job well (and honestly).

So... it's silly to assume that all City of Detroit hiring is incompetent or that city employees in general are lazy or don't know what they're doing. I'm a little tired of encountering that attitude from people who are eager to believe the worst.

This was an unfortunate occurrence. Someone saw a chance to steal and took it. But... dishonest people who might steal can show up in ANY corporation, business, or government/nonprofit entity. It happens all the time, not just in Detroit city government.

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