Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx
Post Number: 378 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 10:10 am: | |
With all the development going on downtown (at least east of Woodward IMO), does anyone think the Illitches could sway commish to bring a All Star Game in sometime soon? |
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal
Post Number: 510 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 136.2.1.103
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 10:11 am: | |
No doubt. I don't think it would take more than a phone call. |
Mrchills Member Username: Mrchills
Post Number: 18 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 63.113.196.170
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 10:27 am: | |
To get the All Star game, I am guessing the Red Wings would have to do the same as what the Tigers and Lions did... Build a new stadium |
Wmuchris Member Username: Wmuchris
Post Number: 116 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.58.36.2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 10:30 am: | |
Agree with Mr. Chills, JLA is not exactly state of the Art in the NHL. If Illitch decides to build a new stadium, which COULD be possible in the next 5-10 years. Then I would not be surprised to see the All Star Game shortly thereafter. |
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal
Post Number: 512 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 136.2.1.103
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 10:30 am: | |
In Hockey? I'm not sure about that. If Illitch REALLY wanted it, I'm sure they'd give it to him. I think the Wings are the strongest franchise in the NHL and the Detroit Region is one of the strongholds of the sport. |
Crew Member Username: Crew
Post Number: 784 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 146.9.52.19
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 10:46 am: | |
wmuchris, 5 - 10 years? Do you think Illitch will be alive in 10 years? I don't mean to be morbid but the man is well into his 70's. (Message edited by Crew on January 04, 2006) |
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man
Post Number: 620 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 11:57 am: | |
Who cares about the NHL All-star game? I can guarantee re-run episodes of Pukey Brewster would get a better share than that snoozer. |
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin
Post Number: 2205 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.202.227.12
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 12:06 pm: | |
lol G Man... I don't know she has grown up mighty nicely though.... |
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx
Post Number: 379 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 12:18 pm: | |
I have to agree with Sharmaal. The franchise has one of the strongest fan bases around; and it's one of the original six! A new stadium would definately help out, but it shouldn't take a little more than a couple of phone calls. |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 618 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.90
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 12:21 pm: | |
The JLA sucks. I hadn't been there in about two years and then I was usually in a suite. I went to the game yesterday and forgot how old and outdated and ugly and smelly that place is. No charm at all like old, outdated and smelly Tiger Stadium. Just old. |
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal
Post Number: 513 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 136.2.1.103
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 1:33 pm: | |
,outdated and smelly. Don't forget the outdated and smelly part. It works better when you've got parrallels between your comments. |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 9699 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.226
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 1:55 pm: | |
I thought hockey was on strike. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 1110 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 141.213.173.94
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 2:03 pm: | |
Well the JLA just had it's 330+ consecutive sellout...good teams in good sports cities draw well regardless of the venue, look at the Washington Senators or the Kansas City Chiefs. Detroit is hockeytown and deserves an All Star game pronto, however, I think that from the NHL's point of view, because they want to grow the sport's appeal, they take the hoopla of the All Star game to small market or emerging hockey-market towns like Nashville, Phoenix, etc. With these all being newer teams, they also have newer arenas. Has Toronto had an all star game? New arena and nice city...but it wouldn't suprise me if they didn't because the NHL is not worried about growing the market for hockey in Toronto. |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 1494 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.233
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 2:09 pm: | |
JLA may have had it's 330+ sellout, and the tickets may have been sold, But there sure have been a ton of empty seats at the games. If they don't get to the finals this year, many of those empty seats will be turned in next year. Detroit will not get a NHL allstar game until they build a new hockey stadium. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 1113 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 141.213.173.94
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 2:18 pm: | |
Agreed about the empty seats...I don't like it, we are starting to look like a crappy, unsupportive sports city with lazy fans, i.e. Los Angelos. Last night's game was better than average though. |
Hooha Member Username: Hooha
Post Number: 66 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.81.52.188
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 2:28 pm: | |
What about Ford Field? It's all set to host a final four and a college hockey frozen four. It would be more of a publicity stunt, but packing in 50 or 60K for the all star game would draw some much needed attention to hockey. |
Border5150 Member Username: Border5150
Post Number: 124 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 207.232.204.254
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 2:38 pm: | |
Probably the same reason that the Yankees haven't hosted an MLB ASG recently. The market doesn't really neded that kind of "shot in the arm". And let's face it, the Red Wings are the New York Yankees of the NHL. From a businees standpoint, it makes sense for the NHL to try and bring all the hoopla to the smaller markets. Look at the NBA - this year's ASG is in Las Vegas - and they don't even have an NBA team! Wasn't Toronto (or Ottawa??) supposed to host last year's All star Game (which was of course cancelled)? The trend does seem to be "showing off" the news stadiums - but in MLB, Boston did host the ASG in '99, so who knows. |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 176 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.134
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 2:40 pm: | |
You young'uns would have loved watching the Wings at the Olympia. Place only seated around 12,000, and SRO tickets were like six bits or so. But, geez, do I have the happy memories from that place. Two bricks from it reside in my home here in Vegas. |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 1495 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.106
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 2:50 pm: | |
I'm one of the not so young'uns who has fond memories of Olympia. I knew every staircase and hidden corridor. Nothing better than waiting for autographs in the hallway outside the locker room. I have quite a few old programs filled with worthless 70's bottom of the barrel player's autographs. (and maybe a gem or two in there as well.) I loved going to games there as a kid. I was so dissapointed when I went to the first game at the Joe. We had better seats but the sterile environment of the Joe sucked. |
Rberlin Member Username: Rberlin
Post Number: 282 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 65.43.38.50
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 3:19 pm: | |
Since everyone is always complaining about the Palace, JLA, and the size of Cobo, why not make a combined basketball/hockey court like the United Center in Chicago. Get the Pistons back into Detroit and have room to expand Cobo. |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 8004 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.70.118.183
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 3:25 pm: | |
Pistons owner will never move the Pistons back to Detroit. |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 1497 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.233
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 3:30 pm: | |
The Pistons won't be back downtown until long after Bill Davidson Dies. Ilitch and Davidson don't play nice together. It would be impossible for the two of them to agree to share an Arena. The palace is also one of the most profitable Arenas in the nation. The Joe only costs Ilitch a buck a year in rent.(+maintenance) Why would they want to give up their profits? The pistons and wings don't play in Halls they play in the arena. No point in tying them to a convention center. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 1116 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 141.213.173.94
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 3:52 pm: | |
The Palace isn't going anywhere, unfortunately, because even without the Pistons it is so heavily used for concerts and there is such a large clientele out there to buy those suites. Hopefully the next owner will move the team back to the city. If the Pistons ever return to mediocrity, this too may cause a shakeup. When there are unsold seats again, it may call to mind the fact that, even though the arena sits among one of the larger and more spendthrift suburban economies in the nation, it is still a long ass way from where most Detroiters/metro Detroiters live. |
Ericdfan Member Username: Ericdfan
Post Number: 61 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.41.117.60
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 4:16 pm: | |
"Look at the NBA - this year's ASG is in Las Vegas - and they don't even have an NBA team!" Its actually Houston this year...I think LV is planned for next year... |
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa
Post Number: 90 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 70.28.0.156
| Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 4:53 pm: | |
The 2000 NHL All Star game was held in Toronto at the Air Canada Centre. The NHL tends to give the game to teams with new arenas. Likely, the Red Wings will only ask for the game after building a new arena. |
623kraw
Member Username: 623kraw
Post Number: 737 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.224.200
| Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 8:26 am: | |
The Olympia was a great venue for hockey. Every seat had a perfect view and put the fan right on top of the game. 15,000 would crowd in if SRO was included... |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 1500 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.233
| Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 11:35 am: | |
quote:Every seat had a perfect view and put the fan right on top of the game.
Very wishful thinking. Olympia had many obstructed view seats. Most behind the large columns that supported the upper deck and the added middle layer of seats. There where quite a few in blind corners where you couldn't see the entire ice. While a majority of the seats at Olympia were closer than at Joe Louis, Olympia only had 60% of the capacity of the Joe. |
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_
Post Number: 1167 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.220.230.150
| Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 12:27 pm: | |
And remember without the Joe the Wings would be playing next to the Silverdome. |
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa
Post Number: 92 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 198.103.184.76
| Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 5:37 pm: | |
If Windsor ever builds a new arena for its OHL team, Detroit and Windsor could make a joint submission for the World Junior Hockey Championship. |