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Jt1
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After politics I am certain he will become a great lobbyist.

I believe that his speech was pretty balanced although I did want to puke when he thanked Craig DeRoche. Even if DeRoche helped pass the HB to grant NEZ to urban areas it still made me puke in my mouth a bit.

Very fair speech all around. Now hopefully he will stand behind his message of inclusiveness and healing the racial issues in the region.
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Susanarosa
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Yeah, I was wondering if he was willing to actually be inclusive or if he was just getting another swipe at the suburbs for not being inclusive. Which would be very uninclusive, dontcha think?

Anyway, I wasn't too into the speech (or the Detroit Love theme...please) until he started naming off his definitions of Detroit Love. I thought those were great.

Also liked Kenneth Cockrel III's speech about his dad. Really cute.
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Genesyxx
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Quick question: If we're really cash-strapped, who paid for his inauguration at the Fox?
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Motorcitymayor2026
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any video of this available online?
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Susanarosa
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I watched it on clickondetroit.com, I'm sure they have video.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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unfortunately, clickondetroit.com was only a live feed. nothing else posted there right now
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Jimaz
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Text here: http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/ma yor/speeches/speeches_inaug.ht m
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Ndavies
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That's his speech from 2002, not today's.
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Northend
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KK...the next Abramoff...
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Susanarosa
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That's a bummer mm2026. You would've thought that they'd have it on there somewhere.
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Alexei289
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I really liked it... I definatly felt that he didnt sugar coat the issues and tackeled them head on.
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Damon
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It was a good speech, but I've grown tired of good speeches.
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Damon
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BTW, didnt we all cringe when he said, "diamond in the back, sunroof top, digging the scene with a gangsta lean"? I mean, good Lord. :-(
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Ilovedetroit
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It was great. I was there - even had good seats. I thought KK did an excellent job - his speech was inspiring and inclusive. Looks like Ken Cockrel was putting his bid in for mayor in 2009.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Of course you were there Ilovedetroit, of course you were there...

just spreading some Detroit Love
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Mcp001
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Hey! Now there's a good reason to run for political office.

To have the honor, no, the privledge of tossing his sorry lobbying behind out of my district/Lansing office...
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Gravitymachine
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I remain unimpressed and uninspired. actions speak louder than words. if he were really committed to repairing the rift between city and region he wouldn't have run a racially biased campaign.

If it sounds too good to be true...
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Swingline
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Too much negativity folks. It's fresh start time. We should all heed the mayor's advice and make sure we are each making our own contributions, however small, to progress in the region. Some of us may never become political supporters of Mayor Kilpatrick, but it will be divisive and wrong to embark on a four year constant drumbeat of skepticism and finger pointing. Everybody doesn't have to jump on the bandwagon. But there's no need to continually try to tip it over either.
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Ilovedetroit
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Hear, hear swingline. Lets move on for the betterment of this city.
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Gravitymachine
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I'm hopeful he'll prove me, and others, wrong, really I do. And I will to do my part in contributing to Detroit as I have been, regardless.

Its just that every time he makes a speech I'm reminded of the "dare great things" line from one of his past speaches that amounted to little more than fluff. Though in his defense, I guess a lot of inaguarals are filled with that kinda stuff...
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Mcp001
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I seriously hope that you're being facetious Swingline...
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Southwestmap
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the New York Times this week on the subject of Mayoral inauguration speeches:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01 /01/nyregion/01mayors.html

If only KK had read this section:

"In 1978, Mr. Koch took the bus from his apartment in Greenwich Village to City Hall, where he warned that "when we no longer waste our resources in ways that help no one, we will be able to help everyone." Accepting the reins of a city that had nearly gone bankrupt, he added: "These have been hard times. We have been tested by fire. We have been drawn across the knife-edge of poverty. We have been inundated by problems. We have been shaken by troubles that would have destroyed any other city. But we are not any other city. We are the City of New York, and New York in adversity towers above any other city in the world."

And then, said Chris McNickle, author of "To Be Mayor of New York," Mr. Koch managed to "make good on that" by balancing the budget ahead of schedule."
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Jimaz
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Oops, detnews to the rescue:
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060106/M ETRO/601060301
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Gambling_man
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Genesyxx.....the Mayor's inaugural party is paid for by private individuals and corporations. Corporations and businesses are prevented from giving money directly to candidates and elected officials, but they can give all the money in the world to host a party for them.
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Ilovedetroit
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Trust me no matter how bad you think Kilpatrick is we would have been so much worse off with Hendrix. As time goes on people will realize that more.
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Metrodetguy
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Just won't let the swipes at Hendrix go, will you "Ilovedetroit". And as Motorcitymayor2026 said, of course "you were there...with good seats". Just like "you were at all the other events".

As time goes on, people will realize a lot of things...

"Bi" the way "ILD", try not to get too caught up when all of it comes crashing down.
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Fnemecek
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It was one hell of a speech.

Now, if he can do half as good of a job in governing as he did in talking, we'll all be a lot better off.

But I'm not holding my breath.
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Ilovedetroit
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How is the police response time these days Fnemecek? :-)

As an onserver in the audience it was interesting to see the inauguration. There was obviosly a lot of warmth between KK and Granholm even Craig De Roche. Stabenow was there hugging KK also. I think we are going to be ok with our Lansing relations and those in DC. Sec of Urban Dev. Alphonso Jackson was there also and had some really good things to say about KK also. The sky is not going to fall with KK being re-elected at those levels. Now he just needs to deliver on his promises.
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1honey
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There was obviosly a lot of warmth between KK and Granholm. "It's all about Detroit Love".

Don't put your money on that relationship.
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Ilovedetroit
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Honey - Trust me that relationship is SOLID as long as KK delivers Detroit for her - she is the one that needs to be worried.
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Digitaldom
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Gravitymachine honestly you are right on the money on KK... From my family experience he is playing a PR game.. He will not live up to his promises.. He has shown that in his "undercover" dealings with the state fairgrounds property.. He is the one that needs to put race behind the city.. He showed that in his campaign for major.. Why would anyone say that during a campaign unless he meant it... If he didn't well people like RAS and William_X will be rather pissed...
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East_detroit
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When is the Metro-Detroit summit where KK invites Mayors of the suburbs to gather and discuss common issues and they all make plans for a regional improvement?
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Mcp001
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Ha haha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha!

Good one, East_detroit.
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Broken_main
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Does anyone know about how much suburban support($$$) was put into the mayors campaign fund this race???
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Mcp001
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That info should be available online either through Wayne County's or the SOS website.

I'm not sure on when their due date is, so it may already be there.
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Ilovedetroit
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Broekn - There were figures in the Michigan Citizen a few months ago - I believe percentage (compared to total dollars raised) wise Hendrix and KK were similar in dollars from suburbanites. Sorry I don't remember the actual numbers though.
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Metrodetguy
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...because "figures" from "The Michigan Citizen" are so accurate you know...
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Motorcitymayor2026
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yea, granholms relationship is fine, until about November
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Ilovedetroit
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She needs Detroit votes. I am concerned about her re-election. She needs to cut the cutesy crap and get to work. Name one thing she has done as governor?

I will support her against DeVos but he will probably have triple the money she has. As Detroiters she needs our nearly guaranteed Democrat votes. She and KK will have a strong relationship with some $ guarantees for Detroit if we deliver her.
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Mcp001
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You're willing to vote for someone only on the basis on party affiliation over what that individual has actually done in office?!?

And people wonder why there is a vacuum of leadership in Michigan today?
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Ilovedetroit
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Yes, I would vote for her anyday over any right wing ass wipe of a conservative Republican shit for brains religious fanatic. Does that clear it up for you?
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Motorcitymayor2026
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mcpoo1, and what exactly has DeVos done to be elected???

Granholm has done a fine job. Michigans economy is in trouble because of the auto industry mainly, and the auto industry has been whats fueled our economy long before Granholm took office, and it is so engrained into Michigan than no one could change the style of what makes up michigans economy in 4 years.

And, granholm has certainly had a better relationship,and done more, for the city of detroit than engler, and i can garantee she will do more thean DeVos. That reason right there is why she will get my vote next november (yay my first election! lol)
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Danny
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BLACK CAESAR KILLpatrick can enjoy his inaugaration party, but his mayoral days is going to be over when recievership comes.
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Ilovedetroit
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Danny - Give up the conspiracy theories and take your meds. :-)
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Supersport
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Aren't you suppose to be at Town Pump here soon? You've said you live in Woodbridge, its a 30 minute walk, if you're gonna be there by 7 pm you better get to walkin'!
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Ilovedetroit,

I will keep a sharp eye on your BLACK CAESER! just in case if he throws any more parties at the Manoogian.
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quote:

How is the police response time these days Fnemecek?



About the same. I haven't needed to call 9-1-1 in a couple of months, which is a big plus. As for crime in general, please see:
http://warrendale.blogspot.com /2005/12/detroit-businesses-va ndalized.html
and:
http://warrendale.blogspot.com /2005/12/dumbfounded-by-dumpin g.html
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Boshna
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"When you pay your taxes, you have a right to expect that you will be safe; that your trash will be picked up, the snow will be plowed and the grass will be mowed; that public transportation will work efficiently; that basic city services will be delivered in a reliable manner."
-Kwame

If he takes this to heart and ensures that it starts to happen, I will have more respect for him than any Detroit politician in the past 50 years. Heck, I'd vote for him for President.

While this task force is nice and all, is he truly going to have the guts to make the huge cuts that will inevitably enfuriate many? Hopefully he is wise enough to see that amputation can save the patient.

But the patient has to be very patient.
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How colorful, Ilovedetroit.

Not that he was worth voting for anyway, but colorful nonetheless.

Motorcitymayor2026, given your glowing recommendation of what a wonderful job she has done, perhaps you can name several examples of the exemplary style of leadership she has displayed over the past three years?

And being a cheerleader doesn't count as leadership!
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Michigan continues to attract new business, with small firms growing by 2,400 in 2004. Seven companies opened new headquarters here last year and direct action by the state helped create or retain 130,000 jobs. New business growth in 2005 shows great promise, and includes Toyota Motor Corporation’s plans to invest $150 million in a new, state-of-the-art research and development facility in York Township, which will create more than 670 new jobs for Michigan.

"Grading the States 2005." The nationwide report card gives Michigan and the Granholm administration high marks in the areas of money, people, infrastructure and information management. Only Virginia and Utah scored higher than Michigan.
Granholm’s focus on families has meant expanded health care coverage for 300,000 uninsured Michiganians through new federally-qualified health care centers in Jackson and Detroit

Since 2003, Granholm has also enrolled nearly 50,000 additional children for health insurance through the Healthy Kids and MiCHILD programs.


http://www.michigan.gov/gov/0, 1607,7-168--57920--,00.html
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Mcp001
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Regurgitating the pablum from her part of the state's website should've been the last thing that you would want to bring up, but if that's the best you can do...


quote:

Michigan continues to attract new business, with small firms growing by 2,400 in 2004. Seven companies opened new headquarters here last year and direct action by the state helped create or retain 130,000 jobs. New business growth in 2005 shows great promise, and includes Toyota Motor Corporation’s plans to invest $150 million in a new, state-of-the-art research and development facility in York Township, which will create more than 670 new jobs for Michigan.




And not one mention of what the guv has personally done to accomplish this. I don't know who many business owners you've read about, but whomever the guv is doesn't exactly rank high on their list of "must-have" items when choosing a state to locate in. Usually, it's things like tax & overall business climate and/or location.


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"Grading the States 2005." The nationwide report card gives Michigan and the Granholm administration high marks in the areas of money, people, infrastructure and information management. Only Virginia and Utah scored higher than Michigan.




Not including any sort of link to this "report card" makes these claims utterly meaningless.


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Granholm’s focus on families has meant expanded health care coverage for 300,000 uninsured Michiganians through new federally-qualified health care centers in Jackson and Detroit

Since 2003, Granholm has also enrolled nearly 50,000 additional children for health insurance through the Healthy Kids and MiCHILD programs.




And what this "glowing" bio failed to mention is exactly who is it that actually pays for this federal and state largeese.

It's nice to know that my taxes (and most likely a portion of what I & my insurance company pays when I go to the doctor), is paying for people who chose to go without getting insurance on their own.

Politicians love to bribe people with their own money. Don't fall into the trap of being naive enough in believing that those of us who work in the state/country, are not really getting stuck with paying for some politicians benevolence.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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I dont mind some of my taxes going towards healthcare for those less fortunate for me.
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Mcp001
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If you have the money to spare, and are more than happy to do so, knock yourself out.

On the flipside, please don't even presume to speak for those of us who are having a difficult time enough as it is making ends meet as it is without proposing that these outpourings of "generousity" are a benefit.

Still waiting for the press release from the guv's office indicating how much from her paycheck she'll be signing off towards the aforementioned programs.

But it should be about as interesting as the latest legislative pay proposal being swept under the rug...
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Motorcitymayor2026
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I didnt speak for anyone, i said I do not mind.

I dont think the govs office needs to brag about what is taken from her paycheck. She pays the same taxes anyone else in Michigan does, actually more since she is in the upper levels of the tax bracket.

She is certainly not responsible to fund programs out of her pocket, as u seem to suggest. Anyway, she has already taken a pay CUT.
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A "token" pay cut if memory serves. I don't recall reading the details about how exactly that was to have worked and when it was to begin.

But you are correct in one thing: she is not responsible in paying for a program herself. However, she is responsible in leading in a responsible manner. Advocating and promoting programs that benefit only one segment of the state at the expense of another are immoral and irresponsible.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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i dont remember exactly either, althought I believe it was a 10% cut, which would be a nice chunk of change
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She could effect a bigger personal pay cut if she would just let someone else have and do her job.
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"When you pay your taxes, you have a right to expect that you will be safe; that your trash will be picked up, the snow will be plowed and the grass will be mowed; that public transportation will work efficiently; that basic city services will be delivered in a reliable manner."

BLACK CAESAR KILLpatrick really said that even through your property taxes has been paid, you may expect basic city services to come into your doorstep.

Be prepared for more basic cuts from recreation centers to trash pickups and from D-DOT bus services to mowing the lawn in other blighted Detroit ghettohoods.
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Can't agree with you on the Detroit vote ILD. She better hope that people will come out to vote, after this pass election shyt.

Sorry Granholm will have to proform a miracle to get my vote. Lower my auto and homeowner insurance or something.
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Ilovedetroit
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McPhail is already working on that (KK assigned it to her) I would trust Sharon getting done over Granholm.
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Motorcitymayor, I usually I agree with a lot that you have to say, however, you stated that you were a high school senior or college freshman (I can't remember which), so what taxes are you really paying?
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 6:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Metro-

Just a high school senior, and yes i pay a very small amount in taxes with my part-time job. What I meant, was more my family. Since we are well-off I dont see a problem with paying some towards medical care for ppl that cannot get it. I know the taxes may put a hamper on many families, I am only speaking for my family, where it has not effected us.

I am sure with the more money I make in the future I will be perhaps less understanding of certain taxes, but I still believe that "i am my brothers keeper," and believe that im responsible to help those less fortunate

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