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Tetsua
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I figured it was about time for an Autoshow thread. From the few pictures that I've seen in the paper, I'm sure this will be one of the more exciting shows that we've seen in recent years. Check out both the Camaro, and Imperial designs. While the Imperial isn't my taste, I can see how people might like it.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20060109/BUS INESS09/60109012

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060108/A UTO04/601080314
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Upinottawa
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As usual, the NYTimes has great autoshow coverage -- even articles about Detroit.

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/a utomobiles/autospecial/
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Mauser765
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Yeah Yeah Yeah - now how about getting the Autoshow review from a REAL source !

D E T R O I T B L O G

This guy is EVERYWHERE !
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Gravitymachine
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chrysler imperial: disgusting, tall, truck like....rolls royce phantom wannabe, but not nearly as graceful

chevy camaro: badass. fresh take on an old idea

chevy tahoe hybrid: 'bout time, looks better than the standard gasser

dodge challenger: did they even put any though into this? or just trace (3D scan) the old one?

toyota camry: waiting to see it in biege

toyota minivan thing: don't like the front, overall pretty neat, I like the interior materials

jeep compass: that's a shame

jeep rubicon: perfect evolution

ford reflex: nice! I'd drive one. love the seats.

ford super chief: things the size of a school bus! I think the interior is cool, but i think that's just because i like bent wood.

buick enclave: nice execution. the 'burbs will be flush with these.

(Message edited by gravitymachine on January 09, 2006)
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Barnesfoto
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I think that somebody was trying to invoke the old Chrysler Airflow in the Imperial. There's some fun stuff there but too much nostalgia! nostalgia! nostalgia! in our local concept cars.
But it looks like a snazzy show.
I like the Turbara.
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Jiminnm
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This is one of those things I really miss since moving out of the area. We went to the auto show every year. Last year one of the cable stations had a program on the Detroit Auto Show (SpeedTV? TLC?) I'll be looking for it again, but it's not even close to seeing it in person.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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NBC had a national broadcast on a Saturday last year for a couple hours too
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Mike
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NBC is also going to broadcast again this year.

I am going first thing Saturday morning. Driving all the way from Kalamazoo.
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Royce
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All of the local coverage almost makes it pointless to go to the show in person because they're showing everything. Nothing left to surprise us once we get there.

Gravity, the whole point of a retro-look is to have the new version take on the likeness of the old version. Look at the current Mustang. It definitely looks like those from the 60s and early 70s. I love the pony version coming out this year.

Therefore, I love the Challenger concept. This is what they should have done with the Charger, instead of making the Charger a four door and copying the look of the 300. I hope to see very few changes in the Challenger production car.
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Caseyc
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screw the car stuff....who's going to the big media shindigs?? The best ones are usually last night and tonight. Swing by the Bankle and see if Camillo is having his usual Ford fete. Sponge your way in with fake credentials... Better yet are the ones set up in unconventional spaces, like the Whitney Building, Ford factory and MCS media parties of yore...only the best in catered food and open bar all night. Those media freeloaders have it made.
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Paulj
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Ive worked at teh autoshow the last 4 years.

In my humble uninformed blue collar show lackey opinion, it's the best one so far.
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Toolbox
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quote:

Caseyc

Swing by the Bankle and see if Camillo is having his usual Ford fete.




Camillo's gig is tonight. Missed a call and the pass that went with it. I will be at the AutoWeek Design Fourm dinner. John Lasseter of Pixar and Giorgetto Giugiaro founder of ITALDESIGN-GIUGIARO are some of the speakers. Should be intresting.
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Caseyc
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that's pretty cool....John Lasseter's an interesting choice.
say hello to Joel Piaskowski for me if you see him...
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Gravitymachine
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i went to designer's night at the bankle, a car designer circle-jerk as every year.
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Chemak
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I can't get excited about the Camaro concept car because I remember what the GTO concept cars looked like, and we all know how the production model compares, badly.
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Barnesfoto
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I think that I have made a picture that tells the story autosho06
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Xphillipjrx
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I am looking forward to seeing the Challenger in person. It's on the cover of both Road & Track and Automobile magazines. It's the first car in a long time to make me immediately open the issue to take a look. Usually the car mags go on the rack and I read them when I get time.
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Danny
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Now the Chinese are getting into Auto making business with the Geetymobiles.
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Dnvn522
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Hey Barnes, I think we need a blown up version of that photo! :-)
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Toolbox
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quote:

Caseyc
that's pretty cool....John Lasseter's an interesting choice.




HE was the keynote last year and did not have anything from his new project Cars ready to show. He was back this year as one of many supporting speakers and had about 25 minutes of sequences from the picture this year. It looks like a pretty damn good animated feature.

He worked closely with many auto desiginers getting the cars animated. Ford supported him greatly in their design studio.

It was also intresting hearing what Giugiaro had to offer on automotive design. His whole presentation was in Italian with a radio brodcast in english.
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Royce
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I can't believe no one has commented on the autoshow in nine days. What's the problem? Did I miss something.

I went Thursday and clearly the best looking car at the show was the Challenger concept. I love this car. I heard one guy say as he walked away from the display, "Chrysler is a fool if they don't produce this exact car." My sentiments exactly.

Other than the Challenger there weren't too many cars I was impressed with. I did, however, like the Lincoln MXS concept, and the 2007 Nissan Sentra.

I also liked the Saturn Aura, but how in the hell can the Saturn Aura still be a concept car? Did I not see this car as a concept at the 2004 Auto Show? Why won't Saturn put this car into production? Everybody keeps talking about the Sky and it's nice looking, but it's a two seater. The Auru is the sharpest coupe that Saturn has designed. They're fools not to put this car into production.
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I'm really diggin the Chrysler Imperial and the Big Chief truck from Ford.
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Citylover
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I went today(fri) Royce, you will be glad to know I survived Detroit intact.

As for the show time was limited but here are my impressions.

The Camaro was interesting.The Rolls Royce seemed massive and sort of hideous to me in fact it was a lot like the concept Imperial or maybe the Imperial is like the Rolls.........

The Bentley was sharp.And the new Lexus ls460 is quite nice.I am sure it will be very expensive but only about half the price of a Maybach and no doubt a much better car...........

The Solstice is a great looking car it jsut looks like a lot of fun.Unfortunately we missed the Challenger however we were not missed as the car had throngs around it the whole time we were present.

I liked the Infiniti very much it is a elegant car and my friend tells me it's reliability equals or surpasses Lexus.

The Italians i.e. Maserati and Lahmborgini were both quite nice.I liked the Maserati best a well styked car and sharp as hell for a sedan

All in all a nice day for a drive to Detroit and the auto show.
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Tetsua
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This MF is gonna be way too big for the road. Very stylish though

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Superduperman
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How did I forget to mention the Saleen S331 out in the lobby,that truck is sweeeeeeeeeet,I cant wait until july when its comes out,I'm going to have to have that baby...
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Mthouston
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Well for those of you that have not gone to the Auto Show. Take a look here
http://www.360michigan.net/06N AIAS.htm
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Royce
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I guess everybody is focused on the Super Bowl so not a lot of focus on the auto show this year. And yeah, it's over at this point. However, I did want to interject a thought about somthing that has quietly occurred with the making of cars that hasn't had much discussion. It's such a minor thing that I didn't want to start a new thread on something so minor.

So here's the thing: I have a 1994 Honda Civic and below the back lights and above the back bumper are these two pieces of metal that separate the lights from the bumper. On new cars these pieces of metal have been phased out.

The bumper on new cars now goes all the way up to the back lights, if the lights are higher up on the back of the car. Has anyone else noticed this subtle change to how cars are made? I guess this is similar to the transition from silver metal bumpers to the plastic flexible bumpers on today's cars. Any thoughts?
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Gravitymachine
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royce, its probably styling driven more than anything, trying to make a more unified shape by visually integrating the bumper. that sheet metal is still there, its just covered by the fascia

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