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Jams
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Post Number: 2523
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 68.79.121.101
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 10:49 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"From Saturday until Feb. 13, some 30 sidewalk mail collection boxes will be removed from downtown in an area extending from the vicinity of Ford Field south through the Woodward-Washington Boulevard corridor to Cobo Center, according to the U.S. Postal Service."

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060119/M ETRO/601190438/1001
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Supersport
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Post Number: 9772
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 64.118.137.228
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 10:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

TEAR THAT UGLY BLUE SCHITT DOWN!
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Dialh4hipster
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Post Number: 1329
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.61.187.234
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:00 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That line never gets tired!
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Supersport
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Post Number: 9776
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 3:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not to mention it's various forms of use.
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Ericdfan
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Post Number: 71
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Posted From: 68.41.117.60
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 5:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

for the super bowl i would assume..don't want anyone taking out 20-30 ppl with mailbombs...
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The_aram
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Post Number: 4642
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Posted From: 141.213.175.233
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 5:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

or they don't want anyone sending any postcards home telling their family and friends how cold it is.
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Detroitnerd
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Post Number: 551
Registered: 07-2004
Posted From: 209.69.221.253
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This culture of security is ridiculous. No problem for the Detroit office workers who will get their mail out regardless, but when you have all these visitors to town and no doubt some *will* want to send a quaint postcard, they won't be able to.

Guarding against the infinitesimal chance that some lunatic will do something bad is more important than being a place convenient for visitors. Sigh.
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Broken_main
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Post Number: 676
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 69.136.139.223
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The visitors can always use the hotels and businesses mailbox to mail their stuff. I am sure once they figure out there are no mailboxes out there(and that it is for their own safety), that there are available alternatives to get the mail out.
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Fnemecek
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Post Number: 1459
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 69.212.214.49
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroitnerd:
I concur that this is a bit excessive. However, I don't think this will be a significant grievance for SBXL visitors.

Most visitors will stay in a hotel and hotels are always willing to mail letters or postcards for their guests.

Morever, since this is something that is done for all Super Bowls, I doubt anyone will leave Detroit with a negative perception based on our mailboxes.

With all of that said, here's hoping that the USPS takes this as an opportunity to remove any graffiti or stickers that are on those boxes, give them a fresh coat of paint and so on.
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Metrodetguy
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Post Number: 2190
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 71.144.94.219
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Geez Detroitnerd. Having your life is the ultimate "convenience for visitors" (and residents alike). Removing trash cans, mailboxes, and sealing manhole covers is a standard security measure, nothing extraordinary there.

A basic measure such as this, at one of the largest events in the world, is hardly an "infinitesimal chance" being taken. Sigh indeed.
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Sharmaal
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Post Number: 591
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Posted From: 136.2.1.103
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroitnerd - All I have to say is.

Atlanta - Olympics.
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Detroitnerd
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Post Number: 552
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Sovietization of America continues apace. Just because something has become SOP doesn't mean it's not intrusive, unnecessary, wasteful or stupid.

Are we going to become a police state just to save a few hundred measly lives?
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Metrodetguy
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Post Number: 2191
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well it is necessary...not stupid...the costs are a drop in the bucket (hardly wasteful), and a very, very minor inconvenience (intrusive would be an incorrect use of that term in this context).

"A few hundred measly lives" here..."a few hundred measly lives" there starts to add up. With other people looking out for you, more than you would look out for them, the "measly life" that is saved may be your own.
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Detroitnerd
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Post Number: 553
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Were people safer in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union? Probably. Sorry, I'm not interested in a security state. And, as a free-born American, I have the right to look at all this and say it's unconvincing and I don't want it. End of story.
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Dialh4hipster
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Post Number: 1335
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Posted From: 68.250.205.35
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 7:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All this DRAMA! I love it.
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Metrodetguy
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Post Number: 2192
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 7:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Comparisons to Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union are not only erroneous, but also insulting. Whether you like it or not, freedom comes in large part from the protection (and precautions) provided by police and military. End of story.
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Fnemecek
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Post Number: 1464
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Posted From: 69.212.214.49
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 7:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

The Sovietization of America continues apace. Just because something has become SOP doesn't mean it's not intrusive, unnecessary, wasteful or stupid.



Okay - Detroitnerd, please take a long, deep breath and then go read a few history books. You are totally overreacting here.

If the worst thing the Soviets or Nazis ever did was to move a few mailboxes, those living under said regimes would be dancing in the streets.

As John Stewart once remarked on his show, "Hitler worked too hard at being evil for you to throw his name around everytime you disagree with someone."

(Message edited by fnemecek on January 20, 2006)
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Nellonfury
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 68.43.156.135
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 10:00 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The city didn't do this during the All-Star game.
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Fnemecek
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Post Number: 1475
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 70.236.177.60
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 4:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Two quick points, Nellonfury.

#1. The City isn't removing mailboxes. It's the USPS who is doing it at the urging of the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security. Different gov't agencies.

#2. SBXL is considered a higher security risk than the MLB All-Star Game; ergo - stronger safeguards have to be taken.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Post Number: 403
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 71.10.63.140
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 5:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nellonfury,

this is also commonplace for ALL Super Bowls....it is not a Detroit thing....NFL makes these demands

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