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Super_d
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Post Number: 593
Registered: 08-2005
Posted From: 205.188.116.137
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 1:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.clickondetroit.com/ wxmap/1522023/detail.html

Well__ we all know how accurate our 'trustworthy' local weathermen can be here in southeast Mi.(yeah right)

Knowing our local advanced weathermen__ how much do you think we will get?

Who will be right?__ Storm team 2, Local 4 storm alert, or channel 7 doppler radar?

I'll say 2 inches max.

waiting to call in to work and sip a hot cup of latti tommorrow morning-atcha!:-)

super d(motordetroit)
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Blessyouboys
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Post Number: 233
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 69.209.167.246
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 1:38 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm going to have to go with Channel 4, only because they have 4 LIVE Radar, which is superior to all technology
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Pffft
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Post Number: 725
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 69.221.70.31
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 1:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is that better than Doppler?
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Naturalsister
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Post Number: 439
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.42.169.65
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 2:58 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They were the first to have Dopplar. So what they have now just HAS to be better.

later - naturalsister.
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Psip
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Post Number: 889
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 69.246.13.131
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 3:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I want my VIPER,, and the Snow Machine.

Who was the bone head that thought those names up, doesn't matter, I watch Shay with the sound off.
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Livernoisyard
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 69.242.223.42
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 3:23 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Using wunderground's temperature maps for the next five days leads me to believe that the next Alberta Clipper will not get past Lakes Superior or Huron. It's possible for some of this predicted snow to become rain instead. The ground will be somewhat "warm" too.

wunderground
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Superduperman
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 69.246.17.152
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 3:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One of them has "street level" mapping which sounds cool and if I'm not mistaken one of them has "soulvision" which has the ability to see into your soul.
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Danny
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Post Number: 3647
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 207.74.110.103
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 6:18 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YAY!!! A WINTER STORM WATCH! Thank you La Nina.
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Mcpd1300
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 68.42.174.123
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 7:37 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Soulvision is HILARIOUS...
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Gannon
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Post Number: 5381
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 70.236.198.22
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 8:22 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unbelievable...all the rough weather waited for me to be done with my trip...we're gonna get slammed overnight with six inches then it'll melt by Monday.
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Manrooter
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Post Number: 379
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 208.27.111.125
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 9:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ahhh. If wishing made it so...
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Livernoisyard
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 69.242.223.42
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The city might just get an inch or so, plus rain. You got to go north quite some DX to possibly get appreciable snow.

I worked a dozen years in broadcasting eons ago. Then and now, weather forecasts are/were always hyped for the worst possible scenario, even to the point of sometimes even faking it. How many times are they going to yell "Wolf!" and still get suckers to keep falling for it?

Other times when no bad WX is expected, well, that is when we do get slammed. Usually once/twice a year it happens like that.

A real meteorologist once told me that even with all the expensive tools and toys at their disposal, nothing beats looking up at the sky at regular intervals.
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Detroitduo
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Post Number: 435
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 194.138.39.52
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LMGAO @ Manrooter
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Gravitymachine
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Post Number: 767
Registered: 05-2005
Posted From: 198.208.159.18
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:59 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

3-5 inches?!?
OMG!!!Get those snowbrushes out!!!

BFD.
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Smogboy
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Post Number: 1595
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.84.183.189
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 3:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's days like this I almost miss Sonny Eliot and his more than low tech methods of reporting the weather. Anyone remember him actually using chalk on a printed map of Michigan? That's almost a performance piece compared to today's high tech see every raindrop sort of technology.
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Ndavies
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Post Number: 1576
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 129.9.163.105
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 3:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sonny Eliot still reports the weather on the Radio. WWJ at 4:16 and 5:16.

I much prefer their regular weathermen to Sonny's schtick.
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Smogboy
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Post Number: 1596
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Posted From: 68.84.183.189
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 3:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's exactly what it is- a schtick. If I want real weather, Sonny Eliot's about the LAST guy I want reporting it on the radio. I somehow lose the information amidst the Swedish translation or the low temperature in Oscoda.
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Jimaz
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 68.2.191.57
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 3:22 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With his detachable Keweenaw Peninsula. :-) Didn't he do that just so he could reach it? Memory fails.
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Super_d
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Post Number: 597
Registered: 08-2005
Posted From: 64.12.116.204
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 3:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess in the lexicon of 'Sonny Elliot'__ tomorrows weather will kinda of Snainy? Snow to the North and Rain to the South.:-)

super d(motordetroit)
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Quinn
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Post Number: 651
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 64.139.64.80
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 3:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

weather.com doesn't have any sort of warning
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Smogboy
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Post Number: 1598
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Posted From: 68.84.183.189
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 3:50 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jimaz...yes, he used to tweak that little tab that stuck just slightly above the chalkboard. I still remember things like a combination of things like "Snow" & "Blizzard" being turned into word like "Snizzard"... sigh. Al Roker's got nothing on this gimmick!
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Ndavies
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Post Number: 1577
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Posted From: 129.9.163.105
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 3:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Weather.com does have a watch for Washtenaw, Oakland and Macomb counties. The watch doesn't cover Wayne county yet. Typing in a Detroit Zip won't bring it up. An Oakland county zip will.

4-7 inches expected.
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Brandon48202
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 68.248.15.192
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 4:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Damn! I just washed my car!
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Gannon
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Post Number: 5382
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 70.236.198.22
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 4:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So it's YOUR fucking fault?!


My dirty Audi drew 50-65 degrees and sunny through the last THREE WEEKS of travel...
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Brandon48202
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Post Number: 50
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Posted From: 68.248.15.192
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 4:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I swear- the last three times I washed my car it rained/snowed the very next day.
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Bongman
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Post Number: 915
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 198.111.56.128
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 5:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Overtime !!
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Mikem
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Post Number: 2308
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 208.54.14.33
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 5:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/w wd/winter_wx.shtml
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Border5150
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 207.232.204.254
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 5:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Weather Channel is reporting 1-3 inches for Detroit...
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Mackinaw
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Post Number: 1151
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Posted From: 141.213.173.94
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 5:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great maps Mikem, you have to go to the source. There are so very advanced sites out there for getting observations, and you really have to stick with the NWS for forecasts.

Looks like the real snow of 5-8" is gonna be well north of M-59. Detroit will probably get about 2" with about 3" in A2 and Pontiac.
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Clark1mt
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 4.229.120.110
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 8:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd just like to mention, because it pisses me off, that WDIV's "4 Live Radar" is nothing more than a feed from the Detroit/White Lake, Grand Rapids, Gaylord, and Fort Wayne NWS radars. Although channel 4 likes to make it seem as though they are responsible for the content, they are doing nothing but paying for a live data feed from the government.

I'm sure a good number of you already knew that.
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Paulj
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Post Number: 327
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 70.236.166.119
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 9:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For all the bragging channel 4 does about their maps....

theyre not even in motion. And the stupid sweeper graphics they superimpose over the radar sites insult my inteligence.

smoke & mirrors over a freaking still image. I can do better in 2 seconds on the internet.

(Message edited by paulj on January 20, 2006)
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Mikem
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Post Number: 2309
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Posted From: 68.43.15.105
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clark1, I'm pretty sure WDIV and WXYZ have their own Doppler radars. I think WDIV's is on their broadcast antenna, and WXYZ's is somewhere in Northville or Plymouth.
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Psip
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Post Number: 890
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Posted From: 69.246.13.131
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The WDIV doppler is on Greenfield at Lincoln in Southfield. Kitty corner form their Tx site. Its on the roof of an office building.
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Second_ave
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 11-2005
Posted From: 68.40.223.253
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone remember that tv station that showed Dopplar radar all the time? What ever happened to it?
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Psip
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Post Number: 891
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Second_ave, are you taking about a secondary DVT channel? I think WDIV had radar up on one of their extra channels.
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Mikem
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 11:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Psip; on this building right?

WXYZ's looks like it's located somewherr west of I-275, north of M-14 and south of I-96.
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Psip
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Post Number: 892
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 11:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bingo MikeM, that round object on the penthouse is the dome (looks to be about 5' in diameter). I think they have to keep it away from the tower because of shadows and reflections. I assume they microwave the signal to the tower (across the street), then hop it downtown.
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Clark1mt
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Posted From: 4.229.129.104
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 11:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WDIV does have their own radar, yes, but not 4, and those sweeping lines point to the locations of the NWS sites. WJBK-2 also takes a NWS feed.

To their credit, WDIV does use their own radar on occasion, for truly local weather, and mostly for severe weather.

WXYZ-7's doppler radar is at Mettatal Airport in either Plymouth or Canton (I'm not sure which it is). At least it was last time I checked.
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Paulj
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Post Number: 328
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Posted From: 70.236.166.119
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 12:10 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the sweeping lines on channel 4 are just fakes. On a real radar, the sweeping line indicates the area that is being updated on the live radar screen as the antenna sweeps around a full 360 degrees. Channel 4's are just cheesy laser-beam graphics that are thrown on, and that dont actually make the map 'move'.



At least on weather.com I can load a time-lapse of the last few radar images in order to get a feel for where weather is brewing from & how fast it's developing. Channel 4's just trying to woo the average person into thinking they have some massive weather control station deep below the Fort Shelby or something

Pardon the rant, this is a pet peeve of mine that my girlfriend and I were just talking about the other nite.



(Message edited by paulj on January 20, 2006)
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Mikem
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So you're saying the sweeps are graphics imposed on a radar mosaic? I think Clark is right, that when WDIV shows a longer range map, the sweeps are the actual returns from the NWS Nexrads. I think there are several vendors who sell these weather processing packages to local TV stations, including the ability to create their own composites from NWS feeds.
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Psip
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Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 12:35 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is correct MikeM. The stations buy the infromation from vendors. I cant think of the name off hand, but there are 2 or 3 companys that compile the NWS data and sell it to them. One site that I found to be no nonsense is www.wx.com It seems to lock up on occasion, but I like the lack of BS.
Wx is TV shorthand for weather :-)
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Mrsjdaniels
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Post Number: 145
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Posted From: 68.248.6.205
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 9:45 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well you guys...wwait til you see what I got in Oak park...








1 inch!!!!!!!!!!!

yes, i can see my sidewalk! its totally clean...the ground was so wamr it musta melted the 6 inches
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Broken_main
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Post Number: 686
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 69.222.11.226
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 9:48 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some storm eh??? I got more snow in my freezer than this.

(Message edited by broken_main on January 21, 2006)
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Jimaz
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Post Number: 71
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Posted From: 68.2.191.57
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 10:58 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow. I used to work in that same building at Greenfield and Lincoln in Southfield back in the 70s. What are the odds?
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Mikem
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Post Number: 2314
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Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 11:49 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Snowfall map

(Message edited by MikeM on January 21, 2006)
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Psip
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Post Number: 898
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Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 1:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any want to buy some bread and milk at a discount? :-)
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Broken_main
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Post Number: 700
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Posted From: 69.222.11.226
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 1:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like someone bought to much preparing for the storm...
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Paulj
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Post Number: 329
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Posted From: 70.234.72.158
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 2:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The sweeps on the local radar are real...


But they like to put up a regional radar still that has multiple sweep graphics on it, and if you watch them closely, you'll note that they infact dont update the map.

I'll stick to the net, thanks
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Erikd
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Post Number: 491
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Posted From: 69.242.214.106
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 5:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We didn't get any snow downtown, just some rain.

Accu-weather!

(Message edited by erikd on January 21, 2006)
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Quinn
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Post Number: 654
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Posted From: 68.42.170.20
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 4:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ha ha...I knew this was another fake-out.
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Lilpup
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Post Number: 815
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Posted From: 152.163.100.8
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 5:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this one's my favorite click on the map to zoom in

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