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Detroits_own
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What do you think are the odds of Detroit would be added to the regular rotation?
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Eric
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None the SB has never put cold weather cities in the rotation.
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Audible_nectar
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NONE.

This could go off as perfect as imaginable, and Detroit will not see a Super Bowl for another 10-15 years, at best.

This Super Bowl came to be largely through the building of Ford Field. A Super Bowl is the "carrot" to get cities to build the "stick" - or new stadium (they did this with Houston, too - but they won't get regular future games, either).

The corporate types aren't too thrilled about it - at least those who would attend the game. No golf courses, no sunny docks, so many of them stay home. They complain to the NFL (these ARE the sponsors, after all), and the NFL dutifully schedules the next four Super Bowls in warm weather locations.

The next "cold weather" Super Bowl will likely be awarded to Kansas City - as a "carrot" to make improvements to Arrowhead Stadium - and as a tribute to Lamar S. Hunt, the Kansas City Chiefs owner and the man who coined the phrase "Super Bowl". This will involve a retractable roof being built over Arrowhead and additional improvements to the stadium. THAT will be a cluster-mess of EPIC proportions, as KC does not have infrastructure to handle Super Bowl traffic.....if people thought Jax was bad last year, they ain't seen nothin' yet.

And that's nothing against Detroit - other than cold climate. I like the fact that the NFL has been able to share this with those in more northern locations. But the reality is that the Super Bowl is viewed as a "tropical vacation" by the big spenders and sponsors who support the NFL, and they'll not tolerate cold weather for TOO many Super Bowls.

I do think that a good performance here can help the cause for a future Super Bowl. It won't be in the regular rotation, but Detroit might see a return visit a number of years from now.

I must say, I am very impressed with what I see from the outside. I have high hopes for this.
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Livernoisyard
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No chance. Without the "new" stadium, there wouldn't be this one. The typical big spenders - the Big 3 - are now the Detroit 3, without their once-flush pocketbooks. It's been 24 years since Pontiac.

Why not conduct a web search for critical reviews about the Super Bowl and Detroit back then - 1982? That'll give you an idea...
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Super_d
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Memo to NFL....

The Super Bowl should never/ever ever ever ever be in a cold climate City!

super d(motordetroit)
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Broken_main
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Superbowl L will definitely be ours...just watch!!!

By then after all of the global warming the temps will be in the low 70's and the golf courses will be well groomed by the first week in Febuary
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Merchantgander
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I have to disagree with the opinion the SB will never be back if all goes well. While the stadium was a big reason why the SB came to Detroit, if everything is great I could see Detroit getting another one in about 10 years.

For the very reason you are saying they wonít receive another one. Corporate sponsors, the Big 3 spend more advertising dollars on the NFL then almost all other sponsors. All of them currently have their HQ in the SEM all of them will get a chance to have large corporate parties at their HQ.

Another reason is because of the Fordís ownership, we might hate him and think he sucks but he is one of the most powerful owners because no owner has a company that spends the advertising dollar the Ford does.
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Broken_main
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10 years equals SB L...yeah!!
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Skulker
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Memo to Super_d:

Please do us all a favor and buy a dictionary and move to Miami.
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Citylover
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MG I was waitng for someone to make the Ford connection.Fomoco is one of if not the largest advertiser in the NFL.
I don't know if that will influence another superbowl anytime soon(doubtful) but Ford is a major player.
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Rberlin
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Why shouldn't the Super Bowl be heald in cold cities? In my mind, when I envision football, I think of hard frozen ground, and the dramatic effect of light snow and being able to see the breath of the players.

What I don't imagine is senior citizens, the sun and beaches. In other words, when I think football I don't think Miami.
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Merchantgander
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More cold weather city will get SBs; they will use the Detroit as their model. The only thing the NFL will want cold weather city to have is a vision of what they want to do and a dome stadium so weather doesnít play a factor in the actual game.
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Czar
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None
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Atl_runner
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Rotating in warm weather climates was a bad precedent to set anyway. Football is not a warm or cold weather game, it just is. If Detroit continues to climb and rebuild, I say around 15 years... Suberbowl 55. Ouch.
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Super_d
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quote:

When I envision football, I think of hard frozen ground and the dramatic effect of light snow...."




Fact__ historically 80% of football games played in the NFL, College and Highschool (if you include domes) are played in +50 degree weather!


To'Skulker'

quit being so sensative dog! This ain't got nutt'n to do wit' ma' love of the City.

super d(motordetroit)
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Detroit_stylin
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OK so quick question then...

Aside from Super Bowl XXVI the last one in the D. What other northern locations has the SB been in?
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Ohudson
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A Superbowl was in Minnesota about 1992, right?
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Detroit_stylin
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According to this site the only two northern cities to have hosted the SB are Minneapolis and Detroit...

http://football.about.com/cs/s uperbowl/a/sbstadiums.htm
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Super_d
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Fo' all ya'll cold weather sports fans!

http://www.fabriclink.com/pk/c oldindex.html

super d(motordetroit)
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Mind_field
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The next northern city to see a SB will probably be Indianapolis. They're building a new, domed or retractable roof stadium for the colts.
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Merchantgander
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NY is will get one as soon as they have a doom stadium.
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Gannon
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Indy can handle a 100k person convention...how many folks does the SuperBowl bring in?

The Indy 500?
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Gannon
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Please tell me doom is a typo, Merch.

Please.
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Zulu_warrior
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The next Northern Super Bowl is likely to be In Seattle:

Up and coming metropolis
Domed Stadium
NFL team there with bucks
All the coffee you want.

The NFL is trying to market the expereince of football in a different way. Much like the difference in the Olympic summer and winter games, the NFL is trying to diversify....
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Skulker
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Super_d:
It ain't about me being "sensitive", its about your preference for personality, drama and fronting in sports over teamwork and substance. Football OUGHT to be played in cold weather and I don't give a shit how many points Kobe scores when his team is in 7th place in the division.

You would fit in very nicely in Miami.
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Detroit_stylin
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I can see either Indy, Seattle, or NY for bowl contention. Indy due to their foot ball tradition, NY becuase it's wel...NY, and Seattle due to reasons stated above by Zulu...
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Detroit_stylin
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These are the sites of the next 4 Super Bowls through 2010...

http://www.superbowl.com/featu res/futuresites
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Gannon
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Thanks D_stylin.

So this really means we'll only have the heavy hitting party-mongers in town...the wimpy folks who'd rather be golfing will boycott.

Very cool weed-out process...unintended result, I'm sure.
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Gwhobbies
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Zulu - The Seahawks do not play in a domed stadium. The used to. But that stadium has since went bye, bye. The Mariners play in a domed baseball stadium. The key word here being baseball. Just FYI.
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Audible_nectar
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"So this really means we'll only have the heavy hitting party-mongers in town...the wimpy folks who'd rather be golfing will boycott.

Very cool weed-out process...unintended result, I'm sure."


Yep. The corporate set is staying home - and the hardcore are coming to Detroit. I really believe that this "mix" will make for one of the best Super Bowl experiences. I've even heard from my own boss at home that the local corps around here who had access turned 'em down.....to which I told him, "send those extras MY way!"

I will say this - the fact that the corporate groups are staying home isn't helping "resale" ticket prices any - $2500 MIGHT get you a ticket, if you are lucky. I really thought when this Super Bowl was announced that it would be a "softer" demand year - but with Pittsburgh in, so much for that theory! The Black and Gold will fill every slot the corps turn down.....and then some.

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