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Ed_golick
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Post Number: 223
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 10:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://img204.imageshack.us/im g204/3470/dsr7648checkersschsp t6ei.jpg
Someone posted this in the Detroit Memories newsgroup, wanting to know where this photo was taken. Thought they might have a better chance of someone identifying it here. Any takers?
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623kraw
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 10:44 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Almost looks like Hamtramck on Hanley street.

WHOA
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Patrick
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The house looks like it was once lived in or built for an affluent family. The large window to the right is probably proof of a huge stairway. hell, it could be anywhere. Grand Blvd?
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Putnam
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 12:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wild guess:

Blessed Sacrament and Belmont Street from the northeast corner of Belmont and Woodward.
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Hamtramck_steve
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That's not a house on the right; it's definitely a house of worship. It's not Blessed Sacrament Cathedral, though. That church doesn't sit at the property line like the one in the photo.

Perhaps the other cathedral south of Blessed Sacrament? (I'm drawing a blank on the denomination, but I think it's Episcopal.)
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Neilr
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 1:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it the large church complex on Nardin Park, off of Grand River?
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Blessyouboys
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Post Number: 244
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 2:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Metropoilitan Methodist on Woodward???
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Itsjeff
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 2:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Temple Israel in West Bloomfield???
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Erikd
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Calvary Baptist Church on E Lafayette???

LOL
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Kathleen
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I believe that the church in this photo is the Central Woodward Christian Church, built in 1928, better known today as Historic Little Rock Baptist Church. It is located at 9000 Woodward Ave. at Taylor. Just north of the church is Northern High School, which explains all the buses.

Here's my photo of the church...sorry it is not the full length of the side, but I think you can see where the structures and windows match what you see in the original photo.

littlerockchurch1
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Ray1936
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No idea,but the car showing it's grille to the right of the bus in front is a 1957 Ford, so the photo dates from '57 or later.
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Psip
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 3:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kathleen hit a home run.
original photo:
Original

Kathleen photo:
Kathleen
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Ed_golick
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Kathleen,
Thank you. Stupid me, I should have known it. I work next door to Little Rock and walk pass that very side of the church twice a day.
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Psip
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Ed, you work at Artie Fields? :-)
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Jjaba
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 4:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jjaba holds out for Masonic Temple, with buses lining Cass Park.

Why are all those buses lining a church?

The Baptists use buses, but count the buses in the original photo. That's a ton of buses for that church.
jjaba, what's my prize?
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Ed_golick
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 4:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jjaba,
The buses aren't lining the church, they are lining Northern High School, which is about 20 feet to the left of the photo. It's definitely Little Rock.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 4:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Ed. Now I got the picture.
jjaba.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 4:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jjaba wants to know what it says in the front window of the buses?
Make and model yr. of buses?
So the busesare for an event at Northern High School. What event?
What's the date of the photo?

jjaba, more questions than answers on a wonderful photo.
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Psip
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 4:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For Jjaba:Bus
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Gary
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 4:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe the kids at Northern are going on a field trip?

My experience in junior high during the mid 60s was that every day after school, a half dozen DSR busses would line up at my school to transport the students. This prevented hundreds of kids from having to wait for the bus at the regular DSR stops along Puritan. It was a faster more efficient way to provide after school transportation for the kids. I think this was common practice all over Detroit in those days.
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Psip
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My guess is that is a 1958 license plate.
1957

(Message edited by Psip on January 29, 2006)
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Jjaba
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 5:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So this was just a normal after-school routine when a lotta kids attended Northern?

Certainly, in the 1950s, jjaba remembers sending up extra feeder buses on Grand River at 3 pm for Cass Tech. students.

So explain the Carver (5) window sign. Was there a Carver route or Carver School back then which fed Northern?

The Northlawn bus used signs like that on the Westside. That bus ran from Cunninghams on Grand River-Oakman on a loop up Northlawn to jjaba's huse. Some bus lines never got on the big roller signs about the driver, so they used window signs with special mounts.

Anybody know the the make and model of the buses?

What a wonderful photo for exploring Detroit in 1958. jjaba was a Cass Tech. junior then, 11th grade.
jjaba, on the Dexter bus going for pickles.
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Gary
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You got me there, jiaba. I don't know what the significance of the "Carver 5" tag on the bus is. There is a Carver School in Detroit (18701 Paul), but beyond that, I don't hsve a clue. I agree, it's a great photo.
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Kathleen
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 6:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ed_golick: Glad I could help out!! Something in the original photo jogged my memory, because I went right to my photo albums and pulled out the current photo of the church.

Thanks, psip, for the photo comparison!! That

Jjaba: The Central Woodward Christian Church is attributed to George Mason, as is, of course, the Masonic Temple....hence the similar appearance. And that's why I spent some time shooting the photos of CWCC; it's got some very nice sculptural details, similar to what you see on the Masonic Temple.
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Hamtramck_steve
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Ahem, perhaps my post narrowed it down for you, Kathleen?
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Kathleen
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 7:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hamtramck_Steve: I'll concede that...perhaps...
but actually I think that Blessyouboys' comment about Metropolitan Methodist got me thinking about all the churches up and down that section of Woodward and something just clicked. And then I was able to confirm it with my photo. Thanks for the subconscious help!!!
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Jjaba
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Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 3:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So why all the buses lined up beside the church?

Somebody, take a stab at it.
jjaba
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Gumby
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Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 3:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Picking up kids from Northern High School which is located across the street.
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Psip
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Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 4:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Field trip to ?????
I count 6 buses, so that would carry about 300 people.
Perhaps a concert at Ford Auditorium or maybe the DIA.

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