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Toriani
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Post Number: 6
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Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 10:16 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared /spl/hi/picture_gallery/06/ame ricas_detroit_pins_hopes_on_su per_bowl/html/1.stm
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Gravitymachine
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Post Number: 821
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Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 10:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hahah, #3 was shot right next to the house my girlfriend just moved out of. neat!
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Bunny
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Post Number: 15
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Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 11:00 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice house, gravitymachine.
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Gravitymachine
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its not my house, it is nice though (note that is not the one in the foreground, you can only see the wrought iron fence of the house I am speaking of)
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Xd_brklyn
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Post Number: 102
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Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 11:37 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Two questions:

Where is this stretch of the Chrysler?

Construction of the Chrysler Freeway in 1964

And from this quote on the BBC web page:

"The 1960s saw another economic boom - another war economy in the Vietnam war. The auto industry boomed, but the Big Three - General Motors (GM), Ford and Chrysler - invested the profits elsewhere."

Did the Big Three invest their profits overseas in Europe or in another section of the US? Did they just pocket it?
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Gogo
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I don't disagree that there is blight in Detroit, however I find it lazy that people would choose to use photos of Brush Park. Even in the photo they chose, you can see the new infrastructure improvements new condos and renovated lofts are just behind this house.

If you are going to set an example of Detroits blight problem, Brush Park seems to be one area that it is being addressed really well.
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Rustic
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Post Number: 2014
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Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 11:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

Jerry Herron, a university professor, says America must stop flinching when it looks at Detroit. "This is the most American city on Earth,"


good quote and spot on as the BBC would put it ...
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Gannon
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We have our winner for the new city slogan to put on the back of the FSC varsity jackets...Itsjeff, are you paying attention?!
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Gannon
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And they used the term 'uprising' to describe the 60s civil unrest...gotta love them Brits, they always recognize a good revolution when they see it.
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The_nerd
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Post Number: 294
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The picture someone posted above is the terminus of I-375 on Jefferson downtown. Many of the buildings on the right have been torn down, but generally the mid-right (across Jefferson) would be EDS and on the bottom left you can see Dumouchelle art gallery.

(Message edited by The Nerd on February 03, 2006)
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Xd_brklyn
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Ok, so the picture really focuses on the expansion of Jefferson and only catches the end of 375. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Jams
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quote:

Critics ask who will support the new retailers once the Super Bowl crowds have gone.




Aside from the MANY, MANY SBXL shops.

For most of the almost 20 years I've lived in the general Downtown area, I've pleaded for retail. I want and deserve places to buy towels, sheets, underwear, etc. I have argued long and hard there is and has been a demographic attractive to retailers within a 3-5 mile radius of the CBD chomping at the bit to spend our readily available cash at local retailers.
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Jt1
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quote:

I've pleaded for retail. I want and deserve places to buy towels, sheets, underwear,




Who would have thought that Jams wore underwear?
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Rustic
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Gannon, re revolutions, what the US makes the world takes ...
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Dougw
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quote:

"The 1960s saw another economic boom - another war economy in the Vietnam war. The auto industry boomed, but the Big Three - General Motors (GM), Ford and Chrysler - invested the profits elsewhere."

Did the Big Three invest their profits overseas in Europe or in another section of the US? Did they just pocket it?



I think they're referring to the Big 3 building factories outside of the city, whether in the suburbs, or in other areas of the country, or outside the country. Which was a generally reasonable strategy, given that newer factories took up way too much space to all be crammed in an urban area like they were in the 20's.


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"But around the gleaming new landmarks (like the Ford Field stadium, pictured), the old city - and problems - remain. Ford's recent decision to cut 30,000 auto jobs cost the region another plant. ... The population is down to 900,000 and is still shrinking."



Some of these doom and gloom quotes are overstated, and make things seem more hopeless than they really are to the casual reader, at least when you're talking about the City of Detroit.

For example, out of the 30,000 jobs Ford is cutting, how many of those people live in the city of Detroit? Probably about 50. (Most of those being white collar workers who work in Dearborn.)

The vast majority of the auto industry wealth is already outside of the City of Detroit, so these jobs hits on the auto industry (especially blue collar) will have relatively small impact on the city at this point. Which is not to say that there is no impact on the city, but the impact on the region is more significant, and also on communities scattered across the country where factories are located.

Basically, if the Big 3 still had 90% US market share today, the population of Detroit would still not be much more than 900,000 now, due to many other issues. At this point, fixing Detroit's social problems and image is IMO much more important than hoping (in vain) that the Big 3 will regain market dominance.
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Cynknight
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Post Number: 59
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Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 1:07 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroit is still the 11th largest city in the entire country. Sigh.

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