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Dialh4hipster
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Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 5:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had to start a new thread about this. Cliff Bells (behind the Kales Building on Park Ave) is open for the Superbowl weekend, and you people need to get your slender, sexy asses down there. Tonight it was out of control with some of the best people in Detroit. It's only open for the weekend, then closed to finish up the restoration, and will reopen, uh, later.

Some of the features and benefits of checking out Cliff Bells this weekend include:

* No cover charge!
* Drinking in a historic bar!
* High calibre (e.g. octane) drinks!
* Hardly any tacky tourists!
* Some of the hottest guys I have seen in town since I moved here!
* A gajillion forumers to chat with!
* Sneak preview of what is destined to be one of the best bars in the CBD!
* Supporting great Detroiters in a great endeavor!

I could go on and on, but instead why don't you get yourself down there and see for yourself?

You will not be disappointed. For real Detroiters, it is *the* place to be this weekend.
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Steelworker
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uhhhh any hot chicks he he he
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Dialh4hipster
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Hey Steelworker, sure there were. I was kind of putting that part in for a laugh (well, it's true, but downtown crowds in general are a lot more attractive this weekend).
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Matt
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Yes, there certainly were a lot of hot guys there... and it seemed like a lot of them were looking our way. lol
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Itsjeff
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It was because of the dresses.
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Ilovedetroit
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Matt - Hmmmm were you checking me out hahaha Yes it was a fun time! The place was full of Detroiters. Fun time! It will be a very cool place when it opens.
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Matt
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If you are hot, ILD, I probably was. lol
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Mikem
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@ CB's now...no line, no cover, standing room only but not stuffy, a ton of Steeler fans, decent prices.
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Leland_palmer
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Shark
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That is sharp looking!
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Michael
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I can't wait to see it when the finishing touches are added.
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Wilus1mj
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Someone was saying when I was there earlier, it was only a temporary bar for Super Bowl.
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Quinn
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It felt like a temporary bar to me, but I'll hold out hope. I didn't remember the front of the bar looking that cool (of course it was night and I was shitfaced). Very cool crowd though and we had a great time.
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Dialh4hipster
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It's open temporarily for SuperBowl, but it's not a temporary bar. As mentioned above, it is open for the weekend, then closing to finish work on the inside.

Hope you all had fun there tonight!
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Dan
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I loved CB's.

I sat right up by the band, enjoyed some great music. I can't wait for it to be open all the time.

My one criticism, and I will be kind since it was their second night open, was the bar staff.

I waited 20 minutes (twice) to get drinks, and they did not appear overwhelmed. The bar staff didn't even acknowledge me; they kept the gaze to the floor. I am pretty sure they are not new; I recognize at least one of them from the Bronx (I think). That combined 40 minutes of waiting was enough to irritate me, but once the music kicked in I was happy.

I strongly recommend checking it out. The bar issues I am sure will be worked out in time.

CBs is a wonderful addition to downtown.
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Steelworker
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uhhh i was there tonight actually on accident and talked to some very attractive women from pittsburgh and from grossepointe. I liked the place.
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Barnesfoto
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I last saw it months ago when they had just started the gutting...
This place rocks. It was closed for 25 years, but somehow, they kept the roof fixed so there's still lots of old 1930's mahogany shimmering in the low light.
I could picture my great uncle, who used to stay at the Tuller, sitting at the bar 40 years ago.
If you want quicker service, slither around the back of the bar, they have a cooler with a couple of ale choices. It took me all of 30 seconds to get served. If it's a cocktail that your wanting, get in line.
CB was one of 3 places we hit last night, and it was the best.
The worst: The lobby of the Pontch, which had a crowd of folks gathered around the piano singing to Billy Joel songs.
It was like TGI Fridays on mushrooms.
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Leob
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What an amazing restoration !!

cb
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Leob
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They are missing the Original Cafe' and Bar signs tho !!
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Eric_c
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Looks like it was originally just "Cliff Bell", now it's "Cliff Bell's".

I'll take it, though!
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Michael
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The speak easy in the basement was Cliff Bell's, as noted by the mosaic down there, and the speak easy superceded the nightclub, so...
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Toolbox
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The Mosaic from the basement.

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Wmuchris
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I was there last night. Great time, the band rocked and the ladies all looked nice. We rushed the stage and danced all nigt.


I hope that place stays open all the time
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Leland_palmer
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Here's the before for my after
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Mikem
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 8:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Last night.

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Mikem
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Look for the yellow sign:

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Gravitymachine
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I was there last night for the last quarter of the game and some of the post game festivities....the place is amazing! can't wait to see it finished, too bad it'll probably be far too "upscale" (read shiney shirts and martini's) for me
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Rustic
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Glad to see Cliff Bell's resurrected, from what I understand it was an old tyme Detroit institution. This would been before my time tho ...

I THINK that place for years usedta be an after-hours joint popular with some DPD honchos and midlevel city employees. Unless I'm mistaken this went on for years and years AFTER it closed as a regular bar. It was really weird to go to what was basicly a run of the mill after hours joint (canned beer, Jamesons, well liquor MAYBE JW red or Dewars if ya wanna get fancy) and see it packed with that sorta clientelle. It might not have even had a working restroom (or maybe you had to go down the basement or something I forget)! Anyway it was one thing to see those kinds of people in a Berts or Pinkies where there is entertainment and atmophere OR it was another thing to go to some bare bones shady after hours joint fulla musicians, waiters, addicts and other hilifers OR it is another thing to go to some sleepy neighborhood recroom-style afterhours club tucked away deep inside some neighborhood miles from the CBD ... but this one offered a really odd juxtaposition.

Yay Detroit!
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Was there Saturday night. Awesome place. The inside is truly unique. The outside really draws you to it. It reminds me of one of those places where you have to know someone to know about it. Tucked away but not hidden. I can't wait until it's finished. Just an idea, but maybe some sort of plaque or small sign outside explaining its history as a speakeasy can be put up. Just knowing that would draw people in who are passing by to at least check the inside out.
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Ilovedetroit
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I am with you Hemingway...we stumbled (literally) into it on Friday and really enjoyed ourselves - the ceiling in there is amazing. Someone said it is copper and bronze mix? Whatever it is it is beautiful.
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Gravitymachine
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its some kind of gold leaf...it just has a dark patina on it from age, and i assume lots of cigarette/cigar smoke. There is an area just above the entry area where they cleaned part of it off...
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Ilovedetroit
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Gravity - Are you an owner or invested in the place? Just curious. If so I think I met you on Friday.
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Gravitymachine
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No. I just talked to one of the owners (name starts with a "P") last night about it :-) ...he's probably who you spoke with as well I imagine
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Sharmaal
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Same folks that own the Traffic Jam. That couple also owns (part) of the Bronx. Thanks to Sean and his Pops of the Town Pump. That strip is going to blow up!
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Michael
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The ceiling isn't gold leaf, that's for sure. It is either copper or bronze, but definitely a leaf. Above the entrance, that spherical shape was painted gold with the red on the vertical wall.
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Dialh4hipster
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It's true, it can't be gold. Gold is an inert metal, it does not patina. It also isn't copper, because copper oxidizes to green. Bronze seems like a good guess, but who knows?
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Psip
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It may have been silver leaf, that will retain its metalic color and look gold with the smoke residue.
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Gravitymachine
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thanks for the chemisty lesson dial4 :-).... I only said gold because the clean spot that was pointed out to me was extremely bright, maybe gold doesn't describe the material accurately, but it is the best description of the color that I can come up with...
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Michael
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Well, quoting from the advertisement above, "Charles N. Agree, Detroit architect, made the outside of the Cliff Bell Bar of Haskelite Mahogany plywood and bronze. Small windows light dining alcoves within."

So, my vote goes for a bronze/brass leaf. Also, note how the original nightclub/bar/restaurant only occupied 2/5's of the building. They later expanded South toward Adams, adding 50% more room. BTW, how jealous am I that grandpa was able to get 1" thick, 5' wide by 12' tall, sheets of mahogany plywood. Actually, it was probably great grandpa or great, great grandpa, but anyways. Sheesh, if only we could get that stuff now a days.
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Gravitymachine
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brass does seem about right now that you mention it.

some of those bygone building materials are crazy...its hard to imagine a time when they were merely ordinary
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Leob
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I think a lot of Mahogany comes from Africa now.
The civilized world nearly decimated the mahogany crops in Honduras and the Phillipines in the 20th Century.
Michael, that photo was not an advertisement. It's from an Architectural digest in Agree's papers at the Detroit Library /Burton collection.
I'd like to stop in and take some photos for my Agree Mini-bio web page:
http://www.thegrandeballroom.c om/CharlesAgree.html
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Llyn
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It doesn't look like CB's takes up the entire building. Anyone know what else is going in there?
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Track75
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The wood inside the bar looks gorgeous. It reminds me of the Redwood Room at the Clift in SF. Very nice.
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Wpitonya
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I was at Cliff Bell's Friday, Saturday, and Sunday...what a great place, and I'm glad I can say later "I was here when this wasn't even done!" Go DETROIT
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Fury13
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When will Cliff Bell's reopen, does anyone know?

Looks like a great place.
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Sharmaal
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30 days or so according to the builder. I spoke to him on Saturday night.

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