Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua
Post Number: 513 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 69.246.5.196
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 11:27 am: | |
http://thekraemeredge.com/our_ work/on_the_boards/broderick_t ower/pdfs/BroderickTower.pdf Check out some of the other projects on this site like the conceptual Woodward block for C-mart http://thekraemeredge.com |
Bob Member Username: Bob
Post Number: 743 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:11 pm: | |
The best thing (besides the actually renovation) is that Higgins no longer owns the building, Motown Construction does. |
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj
Post Number: 34 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.171.81.135
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:17 pm: | |
Wrong Bob. A group of investors owns the building where Higgins is a majority stake holder. |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 672 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:18 pm: | |
VERY awesome Tetsua...thanks much! |
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway
Post Number: 479 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:19 pm: | |
Skipper's rules. |
Bob Member Username: Bob
Post Number: 744 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:49 pm: | |
Thanks rjlj for that clarification, then I too must put Skipper's rule into effect. |
Udmphikapbob Member Username: Udmphikapbob
Post Number: 97 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 206.81.45.34
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:54 pm: | |
a prime location like that, and you're going to have three crappy studio apartments per floor? half of the spaces in the building will be 625sf or less? please tell me that's not final. 5 units per floor is a much better plan, imho. i say this because i want one, and i'm going to need a bedroom and a view of comerica park please. |
Jdkeepsmiling Member Username: Jdkeepsmiling
Post Number: 29 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 208.50.91.234
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:58 pm: | |
If they do this right, this will be a very very good addition to Downtown. Grand Cicus is starting to get really hot, now all we need are some bistro like eateries on the aprk, the kind where you can sit out on the patio and drink lemonade. You think a Starbucks or Caribou would be all over that shit. |
Kraemerdesigngroup Member Username: Kraemerdesigngroup
Post Number: 23 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 63.242.134.66
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 2:35 pm: | |
The plan that "Udmphikapbob" refers to with the studio's is only the seventh floor. We selectively did not post the main floor plans. There will be a great mix of units, some that are two story, some that are even two story with a mezzanine. Here is a preview of the facade planned for the connected former Church's Chicken. BK (Message edited by kraemerdesigngroup on February 07, 2006) |
Rust Member Username: Rust
Post Number: 89 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 64.118.136.130
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 2:37 pm: | |
Didn't anybody else notice the pdf on the Madison Lenox? Or is this study only news to me! http://thekraemeredge.com/our_ work/consulting/madison_lenox/ pdfs/MadisonLenox.pdf Their rendering looked very interesting! |
Kraemerdesigngroup Member Username: Kraemerdesigngroup
Post Number: 24 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 63.242.134.66
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 2:38 pm: | |
Rust - old news. This was done a long time ago for the Ferchill Group, before we did the Hilton Garden Inn for them. BK |
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin
Post Number: 2441 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.202.227.12
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 2:39 pm: | |
So Kraemer, seems that since you all have come along things have actually been happening in the city, so with that I have much respect for you. Since you all are involved with the Broderick does that mean that the project will actually get up and running as well, or is this merely another soundbite coming from Higgins? |
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin
Post Number: 2442 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.202.227.12
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 2:44 pm: | |
Oh and are there any renderings yet for the Laffayette Bldg? |
Kraemerdesigngroup Member Username: Kraemerdesigngroup
Post Number: 25 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 63.242.134.66
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 2:47 pm: | |
Detroit_stylin - I feel that the Broderick Tower will happen. Motown Construction Inc. has a very strong team of professionals and a new set of investors. This has taken a long time. As you can imagine, financing a project of this type is extremely complex. |
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin
Post Number: 2443 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.202.227.12
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 2:50 pm: | |
I understand that. I guess with the major stakeholder's history with this building it leaves room for a little doubt yanno? But I do hope that it does go throught becuase after all it is one of the higher profile buildings in the gateway to the CBD... |
Udmphikapbob Member Username: Udmphikapbob
Post Number: 98 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 206.81.45.34
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 2:52 pm: | |
Bob - glad to hear that the 7th isn't a typical floor. My wife and I are looking forward to living there someday. Wishing I had taken your studio class when I had the chance... |
Kraemerdesigngroup Member Username: Kraemerdesigngroup
Post Number: 26 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 63.242.134.66
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 2:53 pm: | |
Detroit_stylin - no renderings for the Lafayette. We do plan on a complete restoration of the original facade (if possible). There is evidence that behind the black slate panels, the limestone still exists. BK Check out this image:
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Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin
Post Number: 2444 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.202.227.12
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 2:55 pm: | |
Now I was wondering that myself since during sometime within thelast few months I did notice some of the underlyingmaterials were uncovered. I was wondering what that may have looked like. So it is something that can be (hopefully) replicated/ restored then... |
Gumby Member Username: Gumby
Post Number: 853 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 141.216.1.4
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:04 pm: | |
wow that entrance is gorgeous. Why did people ever "modernize" these buildings? Such a shame and shortsightedness. |
Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers
Post Number: 1405 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.68
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:05 pm: | |
Since we are talking about the Lafayette... I'v always thought it might be cool to somehow put windows on the wall facing Campus Martius. Looking at the aerial I'm almost certain that the elevators and other service equipment is in the part of the building that is at the cross of the V. It is not as simple as cutting some holes in those rooms. What I'm thinking is maybe cantelevering an addition over the shorter building below it. Or restore and reconstruct all of the buildings from their to the corner...with additional floors above them. I think the cantelever idea is probably the most feasible. I have to believe that views of CM will be worth enough to justify the expense. (Maybe thats phase II.) |
Sabio007 Member Username: Sabio007
Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 216.106.93.62
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:06 pm: | |
Kraemerdesigngroup - Any idea what the prices will be for the Broderick Tower? Also, when is the pricing for the Kresge building going to be released? Keep up the good work. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 467 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 71.10.63.140
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:07 pm: | |
Any idea when these prjects will actually get off the ground and take off?? We have been hearing about the Broderick forever! |
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj
Post Number: 35 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.171.81.135
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:12 pm: | |
Stay tuned to www.brodericktower.com for information about leasing etc. in the future. The project is still in it's early stages. JCBeal announced that the project will probably start toward the end of 2006 which is correct. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 469 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 71.10.63.140
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:15 pm: | |
yes, that website is real helpful let us know when its operating! |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 470 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 71.10.63.140
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:16 pm: | |
Kraemer, I noticed your office downtown a while ago. How long have you been in there? |
Crew Member Username: Crew
Post Number: 833 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 146.9.52.14
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:45 pm: | |
Kraemer, What kind of car do you drive and will you buy me lunch sometime? Do you like cats? I like cats and dogs too but mostly cats. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 481 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 71.10.63.140
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:48 pm: | |
nice crew |
Kraemerdesigngroup Member Username: Kraemerdesigngroup
Post Number: 27 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 63.242.134.66
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:52 pm: | |
Motorcitymayor2026 - we have been in the Parker-Webb Building (400 Grand River) for six years. Prior to that we were in Harmonie Park. Sabio007 - no pricing available from us for the kresgee (Now being called the Elliot Building). The building was originally the William Elliot Building. www.theelliottbuilding.com BK |
Gumby Member Username: Gumby
Post Number: 856 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 141.216.1.4
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:40 pm: | |
sorry no. It will always be the House of Nine to me. |
Atperry Member Username: Atperry
Post Number: 241 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.241.224.152
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:40 pm: | |
once a project of this scale is started, how long would it take to complete? |
Mcnamara Member Username: Mcnamara
Post Number: 25 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 204.22.230.98
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 3:44 pm: | |
Kraemerdesigngroup- when do you expect the "elliot building" to be ready for move in? |
Sabio007 Member Username: Sabio007
Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 216.106.93.62
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 4:12 pm: | |
Thanks for the heads up. I currently live in the Lofts at Woodward Center and I plan to stay there until the Elliot Building is ready. Looks like it is going to be nice when all is said and done. |
Dougw Member Username: Dougw
Post Number: 966 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 136.1.1.154
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 4:16 pm: | |
Back to the Broderick Tower, going by the floor plan it looks like only one unit per floor will get the full view of Comerica Park, unit B.5 on the Seventh floor plan for example. The other set of east-facing windows are in the stairwell, and the elevator takes up the rest of the wall. But oh what a view from that one east-side unit! You'd be able to watch ballgames pretty easily, although a pair of binoculars wouldn't hurt. I'm sure those units will fetch a premium. |
Gumby Member Username: Gumby
Post Number: 860 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 141.216.1.4
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 4:20 pm: | |
It also looks like you are creating a lobby through Otto's Crispy Corn, is that true? |
Bob Member Username: Bob
Post Number: 751 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.137
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 4:20 pm: | |
The rest of the view will not be half bad either, you will be looking out over Downtown. I know its not a sports stadium, but it still will not be a bad view anywhere. |
Dougw Member Username: Dougw
Post Number: 967 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 136.1.1.154
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 4:36 pm: | |
True 'nuf, Bob, especially once you get 20-30 stories up. |
Motif Member Username: Motif
Post Number: 19 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 64.12.116.204
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 6:09 pm: | |
what about parking???? |
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway
Post Number: 482 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 6:12 pm: | |
Tunnel to the structure under Grand Circus Park, a la Kales Building perhaps? |