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Tetsua
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On Discovery times right now (8pm). A show about Detroit's underground hip hop scene
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Tetsua
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It's going to be showing again at 11pm on channel 111. It's really a decent documentary.
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1953
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It seemed to really focus on the bad. For example, there was one scene in which the host and a rapper where driving north on Gratiot and the rapper was pointing out all of the liquor stores and glossing over things such as Crain's Headquarters, Faygo, and health clinics. It was edited to make Gratiot look like a massive hell hole without redemption.
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Tetsua
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I gotta agree with you on that. No matter where he cruised around in the city, he only focused on the bad, however the burbs look really nice. That's the thing about any documentary though, it shows exactly what the film maker WANTS to show. I didn't really care for his point that "Everybody dreams of leaving the city for the burbs" either.
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Darwinism
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I saw this show last night as well, thanks to Tetsua for alerting us here on the forum.

One of the glaring positives that I find was the fact that the journalist, Charlie LeDuff(from Detroit), highlighted the hardworking nature of these up-and-coming rappers. Ill Uno, leads a straight and narrow life working as a custodian in the daytime ..... hardworking and staying out of trouble. Lazarus, medical student by day, comes from a Pakistani background and also leads an honest crime-free life as well as being a non-drinker.

It just goes to show that not all rappers are gangsters doing drugs, and doing crime, and being thugs. It was also nice to hear that Hush, who has worked so hard for so long, comes from a law enforcement family, giving advice to others that the business is not easy by any means.

(Message edited by darwinism on February 10, 2006)
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quote:

It was edited to make Gratiot look like a massive hell hole without redemption.




Ummm...not to be negative, but once you pass the market, Gratiot is a massive hell-hole without redemption.

May just be the ugliest street in north america.
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1953
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Dabrich, I recognize that Gratiot isn't beautiful, but the documentary talked about the worst stretched of Gratiot as if that was how the entire city looked. There were no shots of East Jefferson or Indian Village, etc. etc.
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Dabirch
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For 850,000 out of 900,000 people who live here, Gratiot is how the entire city looks.

Take away a couple short stretches of Jefferson, the BLVD, Outer drive, Grand River, Woodward, and Seven Mile, and that is what the city looks like.

I understand Detroit has some of the most beautiful parts of any city. But it is such a small, small percentage of the total space we have here.

why would we expect somebody to focus on that?
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Reetz12
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I may be a massive hell-hole, but there are not Potholes! Gratiot is one of the nicest "roads" in the metro detroit area, now that it is redone.
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1953
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People see Detroit as they want to see it. Ex-Detroiters and people living in poverty see a burned out shell of a community, while many residents and especially newcomers enjoy the many assests that remain and continue to develop. Let's stop downplaying the city and talking about how everyone wants to leave. We need to promote and advance Detroit.
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Ummm...ok.

Not quite sure how anything I stated was downplaying the city. Not quite sure why you would try to lump my view of gratiot being ugly with one of an ex-detroiter or one living in poverty.

I am pretty damn sure I do my part to promote and advance the city.

I do it, however, from the perspective of a long-time resident who sees a burned out shell every day, as well as the beauty and potential that is here.

Take off those funny glasses, and realize that before you can do anything to help make this a better and more desireable place, you need to understand exactly what it is you have to work with.
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Reetz12
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I may be a massive hell-hole, but there are not Potholes! Gratiot is one of the nicest "roads" in the metro detroit area, now that it is redone.




Reetz12, I don't think Dabirch was calling you a massive hell hole, I think he was talking about Gratiot road. But if you are Gratiot posting under the username Reetz12 do you know if the city will be performing any infrastructure improvements on you this summer? :-)
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Jt1
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I have it on good authority (from Manrooter) that Reetz is a massive hellhole.

:-)
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Jjaba
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In his new baad se'f, jjaba notes that Grand River Ave., the Gratiot twin on the Westside, don't look so hot either (but the roadway is better than before).

Before expressways, these arterials were US Highways, and full of life. With the heavy traffic gone, wide roadways like these and others in every American city, must reinvent themselves or look like Gratiot and Grand River does today.

Imagine the buses every 8 minutes loaded, heading to downtown for work, shopping, and downtown entertainment. Those were the days my friends, we thought they'd never end...

jjaba, Proudly Westside.
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Bagman
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My daddy owned a store on 8 Mile, so I grew up watching it change as the neighborhood came and went and came and went both on the south and the north side of the street.

Funny thing is I grew up playing on 8 mile, I was in the movie 8 mile (played Roy Daroucher) and now I don't cross 8 mile (if I can help it).
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Super_d
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To bad I missed the PBS special, did they mention any of the original rappers in the City? ie: Frogger Don, Max-Chill, MC-Chill, Awesome Dre, MC Shrink, or Downtown Joe----I remember listening to those katz in Rap Battles back in the early 80's.



super d(motordetroit)
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Jjaba
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jjaba grew up with Bistritsky, Valter Poole, and Leonard B. Smith. Very talented Detroiters.
jjaba, Proudly Westside.

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